Who do you want as QB 2 in 2022

[YoloinOhio]

Good topic. I went with mariota only because I think Mitch follows Daboll. I think if rodgers goes to Denver we could throw a late pick at them for  Drew Locke.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Again, no thanks on Fitzpatrick. I'm way too superstitious. Every starting QB he's backed up has gotten hurt.

[BigAl2526]

I think Trubisky might be hard to retain.  If he can sign somewhere that he has better odds of getting on the field, he'll grab the opportunity.  I could live with any of the three in the middle of the list: Darnold, Mariota, Webb.  They all have some mobility like Allen.  They all have good arms, if not at Allen's level, and they have decent mobility.  All three lack consistency, which is why we're talking about them as backups.  I think any of the three would come at an affordable price, and Buffalo's coaches have proven to be adept at putting players, including QBs in a position to succeed. The knock on Trubisky in Chicago was inconsistency, and he did fine as Allen's backup.  

[BuffaloBills1998]

There’s people on this board that actually picked Mariota lol. I guess we could use him as a RB on 3 & 1 lol

6 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said:

I think Trubisky might be hard to retain.  If he can sign somewhere that he has better odds of getting on the field, he'll grab the opportunity.  I could live with any of the three in the middle of the list: Darnold, Mariota, Webb.  They all have some mobility like Allen.  They all have good arms, if not at Allen's level, and they have decent mobility.  All three lack consistency, which is why we're talking about them as backups.  I think any of the three would come at an affordable price, and Buffalo's coaches have proven to be adept at putting players, including QBs in a position to succeed. The knock on Trubisky in Chicago was inconsistency, and he did fine as Allen's backup.  

I don’t see how, he really didn’t do anything to make teams want to go after him. I think he gets low ball offers and would still be a back up. Might as well stay in Buffalo

[Alphadawg7]

4 hours ago, KDIGGZ said:

If Sam Darnold was outright cut and was cheap I think Beane would jump at getting him.  He was the #1 QB on their board

That board is long been in the trash lol.  He’s got 4 years of tape to rethink that ranking 

[BuffaloBills1998]

21 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Good topic. I went with mariota only because I think Mitch follows Daboll. I think if rodgers goes to Denver we could throw a late pick at them for  Drew Locke.

Drew lock WTF??? Lol have you seen that kid play, he’s beyond abysmal. How he’s in the NFL is beyond me

Just now, Alphadawg7 said:

That board is long been in the trash lol.  He’s got 4 years of tape to rethink that ranking 

As a back up I can see it. He has connection to Allen and probably would do well in this system. Just my 2 Cents

[transient]

Kyle Allen. At one time they were collecting Williamses, then Phillipses... it's time to collect Allens. Maybe they can get Brandon and Austin as well.

[Alphadawg7]

39 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

Drew lock WTF??? Lol have you seen that kid play, he’s beyond abysmal. How he’s in the NFL is beyond me

As a back up I can see it. He has connection to Allen and probably would do well in this system. Just my 2 Cents

I don’t disagree, with the Allen connection.  I was more just down playing the relevance of them previously being high on him before he played a down

[Freddie's Dead]

Fitz, duh.

[Dan Darragh]

If Dalton comes to Buffalo he'll have his own breakfast cereal named after him

[The Red King]

Something to consider is not just who would be a good backup, but who would be a good backup in our system.  The whole system isn't changing drastically once the backup goes in.  That makes the choice tougher.

[Weatherman]

15 hours ago, KDIGGZ said:

If Sam Darnold was outright cut and was cheap I think Beane would jump at getting him.  He was the #1 QB on their board

 Can you provide any evidence to support this claim?  

[WhoTom]

11 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Again, no thanks on Fitzpatrick. I'm way too superstitious. Every starting QB he's backed up has gotten hurt.

 

I'm not superstitious, so I go with Fitz. Also, remember that the Bills signed Fitz as a backup to Trent. Edwards didn't get hurt, he just sucked, which is how Fitz got the starting gig. So, for you superstitious types, Buffalo is immune to the Fitz curse.

 

 

 

[Jim Bob]

I don't think it is realistic to expect Trubisky to be back in 2022.

 

I went with Trevor Siemian because he put up decent numbers in NO this past season while making less than $1M. 

 

A vet like Blaine Gabbert wouldn't be a bad idea, either.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

36 minutes ago, WhoTom said:

 

I'm not superstitious, so I go with Fitz. Also, remember that the Bills signed Fitz as a backup to Trent. Edwards didn't get hurt, he just sucked, which is how Fitz got the starting gig. So, for you superstitious types, Buffalo is immune to the Fitz curse.

 

 

 

Trent Edwards got hurt in Fitzpatricks 1st season in Buffalo. Fitzpatrick was signed as a backup. Edwards hurt week 6 vs the Jets.

 

Every time he's been a backup the starter has been hurt. Going back to the Rams and the Bengals. Those were before Buffalo. After Buffalo it continued.

 

What's crazy is Washington signed him to be their starter and Fitzpatrick immediately gets hurt. Something with Fitzpatrick.

Edited February 3, 2022 by Buffalo_Stampede

[JMF2006]

BQB who comes cheap

 

Not a lot of cap room should be spent there JA17 has proved to be as durable as a Cat D8 Dozer  

[Big74Mac]

If Fitz would play for a reasonable salary he is so the obvious choice. He can still play and the offense would not have to change for him to back up. He can win games still if called into action and is a great teammate and veteran leader. I would love to see him finish his career here. Mitch is Ok but too expensive and frankly he has to move on to try and get a chance to start somewhere. 

[TheFunPolice]

Trubisky if he will stay. If not, it's time to tap into that Fitzmagic, one more time!

 

Fitz might add a vibe and a little bit of comic relief that every team needs too. 

Edited February 3, 2022 by TheFunPolice

[BarleyNY]

15 hours ago, billybrew1 said:

Plus, Fitzy could keep the Bills on track should it be an injury Josh can come back from during the season. I mean, Mitch is ideal, but no way does he stay....

This is the pertinent situation.  Josh gets injured and misses time but is back at some point.  I think it’s pretty likely that Fitz would love to come back here and he could help the team remain competitive for a month or two if needed.  What you can’t have is a backup who will 💩 the bed for 6 weeks and pile up a 1-5 record while Josh is healing a broken bone.  If that happens then even going 8–3 in the other games only gets you to 9-8 and no playoffs.  If that backup QB can get the same team to 3-3, then even 7-4 with Allen playing gets you into the playoffs.  8-3 probably gets you the East.  Huge difference. 

[JohnBonhamRocks]

14 hours ago, smuvtalker said:

I share your sentiments darn near to the tee, as I too would have Trubisky as my 1st choice simply because he knows the system, has the tools, and we wouldn't miss a beat.  But literally Dalton and Winston IMO would be outstanding pickups as QB2(i would lean a little more towards Winston just because Dalton is getting a little longer in the tooth, plus I believe Winston is as physically gifted as any QB on the list, and if he can limit his int's like he did this past season in the limited time he saw, I'd be gung ho for the pickup).  Fitzy because we all love him, and I would say yes to Darnold because he's just gotten a raw deal and no continuity.

Yep. Basically I see Dalton as the safer choice while Winston is more boom-or-bust.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Ya'll playing with fire with Fitzpatrick. I mean I use to think the #11 was cursed in Buffalo. Then Beasley switched to #11 and was having a great year. Then injuries hit him before he could get 1,000 yards and all the covid mess.

 

If we sign Fitzpatrick I'm blaming everyone in this thread for Josh Allen getting hurt in 2022.

 

 

[Marv's Neighbor]

Is Brady REALLY retired??

[SoTier]

1 hour ago, Weatherman said:

 Can you provide any evidence to support this claim?  

 

Whether Darnold was once #1 on the Bills draft board or not is irrelevant.  He sucks as an NFL QB.  Pass.

[msw2112]

A few folks have mentioned Andy Dalton.  I like Andy - he's an experienced guy with lots of starting experience and previously got the Bengals to the playoffs many times.  He even got the Bills into the playoffs one year!  He also seems to be a classy guy who would fit with the team culture and be a good mentor.  That said, has anyone watched him play in the last couple of years (Dallas and Chicago)?  Unfortunately, I think his tank is empty.  I'd prefer Fitz, who is also nearing the end of the line, but seems to have a little bit left in the tank.  And if we can get one of the younger, more athetic guys (who can run a lot of what Allen does, albeit not as well as Allen) like Mitch or Mariota, that would likely be the best scenario.

Edited February 3, 2022 by msw2112

[WhoTom]

40 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Trent Edwards got hurt in Fitzpatricks 1st season in Buffalo. Fitzpatrick was signed as a backup. Edwards hurt week 6 vs the Jets.

 

Every time he's been a backup the starter has been hurt. Going back to the Rams and the Bengals. Those were before Buffalo. After Buffalo it continued.

 

 

 

That's true, but my point is that injury isn't how he got the starting job in Buffalo. Every time TE was hurt, he was reinstated as the starter after he healed. Fitz only took over when the new coaching staff realized what Jauron didn't: Fitz was the better of the two.

 

But my main point is that I'm not superstitious. The "curse immunity" take was just a joke - I was spinning the data in the same way that superstitious people spin data to support their beliefs.

 

 

[TheFunPolice]

The thing about the Fitz curse is that the starters ahead of him weren't that good. 

 

Part of being not a very good QB is you get hurt a lot.

 

If you notice, the star QBs seem to know how to avoid serious injuries most of the time. It's part of being a good QB. 

 

Bad QBs hold the ball too long, don't see hits coming, and get smashed because they can't process the field fast enough to get rid of the ball. 

[dave mcbride]

32 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

This is the pertinent situation.  Josh gets injured and misses time but is back at some point.  I think it’s pretty likely that Fitz would love to come back here and he could help the team remain competitive for a month or two if needed.  What you can’t have is a backup who will 💩 the bed for 6 weeks and pile up a 1-5 record while Josh is healing a broken bone.  If that happens then even going 8–3 in the other games only gets you to 9-8 and no playoffs.  If that backup QB can get the same team to 3-3, then even 7-4 with Allen playing gets you into the playoffs.  8-3 probably gets you the East.  Huge difference. 

This. Your backup is a guy who can get you to 2-2 over a four game stretch (or 3-3, but you get my point). Trubisky was ideal this year, but he's likely a goner. Fitz can do that provided the hip injury he had didn't basically end his career. It may have; we just don't know.

[Stevie Ray]

The other Josh?

😈

[Albany,n.y.]

17 hours ago, KDIGGZ said:

You are sighting a previously debunked rumor that started on Reddit. Darnold was #1 for the Bills and Josh was #2 and a more likely option as pretty much everyone thought Darnold would go #1. Giants and Jets both had Darnold 1st too but Giants had Barkley and Chubb 1 and 2 and felt like Barkley was a hall of famer and couldn't be passed up. At the time Beane said he wouldn't get into the draft board but that Josh was one of their top guys. If he was #1 don't you think he would say we got our #1 player on the board? We all praise Beane for being a genius now but he would have gone with Darnold if he was there. The entire NFL would have

You're dead wrong!  It was NEVER debunked.  It was from WGR. It was not a rumor. I have the photograph of their board below.  The original Tweet, produced BEFORE the draft also included the employee's credentials that proved he worked there.  It even has the trade with Denver which has been confirmed by Beane among others.   There were plenty of reports that the Bills wanted Josh before the draft with many mock drafts having us trading up for Josh. Why would Beane ever say who was #1 on their board in public.  All that would be is bragging, something Beane doesn't usually do.  It would also be disrespectful to the guys lower on the board, another thing Beane doesn't do.  

[MJS]

20 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I don't think he's going to be available and I know I'll get crucified for this...but bring me Minshew. 

Why would you get crucified for that? Minshew is an excellent backup.

[KDIGGZ]

2 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:

You're dead wrong!  It was NEVER debunked.  It was from WGR. It was not a rumor. I have the photograph of their board below.  The original Tweet, produced BEFORE the draft also included the employee's credentials that proved he worked there.  It even has the trade with Denver which has been confirmed by Beane among others.   There were plenty of reports that the Bills wanted Josh before the draft with many mock drafts having us trading up for Josh. Why would Beane ever say who was #1 on their board in public.  All that would be is bragging, something Beane doesn't usually do.  It would also be disrespectful to the guys lower on the board, another thing Beane doesn't do.  

Let's see a post dated before 4/26/18 with that pic

[Albany,n.y.]

3 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

Let's see a post dated before 4/26/18 with that pic

It's on Twitter by WGR . It's dated prior to the draft because that was the whole point of the Tweet & what they put on the air.  If you're so interested in being proven wrong, which I'm 100% certain you are, look it up yourself.  I'm not wasting my time because you're ignorant of the facts.  I already attached the photo.  

[Motorin']

3 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:

You're dead wrong!  It was NEVER debunked.  It was from WGR. It was not a rumor. I have the photograph of their board below.  The original Tweet, produced BEFORE the draft also included the employee's credentials that proved he worked there.  It even has the trade with Denver which has been confirmed by Beane among others.   There were plenty of reports that the Bills wanted Josh before the draft with many mock drafts having us trading up for Josh. Why would Beane ever say who was #1 on their board in public.  All that would be is bragging, something Beane doesn't usually do.  It would also be disrespectful to the guys lower on the board, another thing Beane doesn't do.  

 

Whoever took this photo and posted it should be fired.

[Charles Romes]

On 2/2/2022 at 6:03 PM, BuffaloBillyG said:

I don't think he's going to be available and I know I'll get crucified for this...but bring me Minshew. 
 

 

 

I added Minshew to the poll and removed gabbert.who received no votes.  - poll cuts off at 20 choices. Also exchanged Fromm for Hoyer.