TH3 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, SCBills said: Wilbon (PTI) completely dumping on Josh Allen. “Just because he was great two days ago doesn’t mean he’ll be great next week” ”Now Josh Allen and the Bills are so great, ehhh, let’s not overreact” It blows my mind, Allen has the weirdest dudes who won’t recognize how good he is. Guess he just needs to keep proving them wrong. Wilbon has a problem with good white guys 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Process Posted January 17, 2022 Author Share Posted January 17, 2022 21 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: It is head scratching how there is this group of NFL "experts" and ex players that just crap all over Allen. It's weird but I suspect goes back to what these people said about Allen's prospects leading up to and after the 2018 draft. I think playing in Buffalo is also a huge part of it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 49 minutes ago, starrymessenger said: Not imo. The strength of the NE D is/was their secondary. Its better than the Chiefs’. Allen/Dabol dismantled it. So advantage Bills. Plus there are guys there to pick on ie Sorensen. So if the Chiefs front plays well, which they are doing now, I think it’s still pretty equal. If our O-line is again up to it Allen and Daboll will do to KC what they did to NE, so between 40-50 points. Give Allen that kind of time and he’s unbeatable. I’m really interested to see what Spags comes up with. While your opinion on NE Secondary might be true if Gilmore were still there and Jonathan Jones /Shaun Wade/Jalon Mills had suited up, this past Saturday's D backfield looked like the backups in an intra-squad scrimmage. McCourty, Jackson and Dugger were the only 3 who would have normally played. That is why the Bills had so many open WRs and TE. There is no way to say that this past SAT's NE D Backfield is better than the Chiefs. 58 minutes ago, starrymessenger said: Plus there are guys there to pick on ie Sorensen. Sorensen is no longer a starter. Only plays in their big Nickel Run D as they have taken away any deep coverage responsibilities. Thornhill and the Honey Badger are their starting Safeties now. 31 minutes ago, SCBills said: Wilbon (PTI) completely dumping on Josh Allen. “Just because he was great two days ago doesn’t mean he’ll be great next week” ”Now Josh Allen and the Bills are so great, ehhh, let’s not overreact” It blows my mind, Allen has the weirdest dudes who won’t recognize how good he is. So my read here is this is an urbane East Coast talking head who just has trouble with the Wyoming "Cowboy" stereotype - farming, family and flag. Cultural differences I guess. And it appears that the non-player world (Florio, Wilbon, Nick Wright) can't grasp what a true "Unicorn" looks like. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, freddyjj said: While your opinion on NE Secondary might be true if Gilmore were still there and Jonathan Jones /Shaun Wade/Jalon Mills had suited up, this past Saturday's D backfield looked like the backups in an intra-squad scrimmage. McCourty, Jackson and Dugger were the only 3 who would have normally played. That is why the Bills had so many open WRs and TE. There is no way to say that this past SAT's NE D Backfield is better than the Chiefs. Sorensen is no longer a starter. Only plays in their big Nickel Run D as they have taken away any deep coverage responsibilities. Thornhill and the Honey Badger are their starting Safeties now. So my read here is this is an urbane East Coast talking head who just has trouble with the Wyoming "Cowboy" stereotype - farming, family and flag. Cultural differences I guess. And it appears that the non-player world (Florio, Wilbon, Nick Wright) can't grasp what a true "Unicorn" looks like. I do honestly think there’s something to that. Not to get off topic, but those same guys are typically ready to declare West Coast Allen (Herbert) to be elite. I don’t even know that Herbert is any different than Allen (politically/culturally), but Allen’s family & background is not something they resonate with… then factor in vax hesitancy and he cemented himself as “that type” to them. Edited January 17, 2022 by SCBills 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 45 minutes ago, SCBills said: Wilbon (PTI) completely dumping on Josh Allen. “Just because he was great two days ago doesn’t mean he’ll be great next week” ”Now Josh Allen and the Bills are so great, ehhh, let’s not overreact” It blows my mind, Allen has the weirdest dudes who won’t recognize how good he is. Meanwhile, other guys like Chris Simms wonder if Josh Allen is THE best player in the NFL. The polarization is crazy. What it tells me is he needs to dethrone Mahomes to win over the last of the detractors. Because there's probably a very few stragglers who insisted 4 years ago he'd never pan out. Admitting you're wrong is still one of the hardest things to do in human nature. All that matters is Mel Kiper saw Josh long before anyone else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 I'm off on Monday so I can stay up and watch - from a selfish point of view I'd hope the Championship game is on the Sunday afternoon if we get through as I can't keep booking days off! For that, I suppose I should keep my fingers crossed for a Bucs at Packers Championship game in the NFC as that's more likely to get a primetime slot. As an aside, if the Chiefs win I couldn't care less. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassToMouth Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 38 minutes ago, FLFan said: Not willing to admit being wrong is a big part of it, and certainly true with Wilbon. Wilbon and Kornheiser were very vocal about Josh Allen at the time of the draft regarding the old twitter stuff from when he was 16. He was labeled a racist by them and many, many black players and analysts and others around the NFL. They already viewed the Bills organization as some sort of racist overlord for not recognizing the greatness of Tyrod Taylor. While that has largely disappeared it has not and likely never will with some and that includes these two turds who have never been known to admit being wrong, dating back to their WAPO columnist days. For retweeting a Rick Ross lyric and a quote from modern family. It’s an excuse to be racist if someone takes issue with what Josh RETWEETED. What a joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, SCBills said: I do honestly think there’s something to that. Not to get off topic, but those same guys are typically ready to declare West Coast Allen (Herbert) to be elite. I don’t even know that Herbert is any different than Allen (politically/culturally), but Allen’s family & background is not something they resonate with… then factor in vax hesitancy and he cemented himself as “that type” to them. Both Wilbon and Kornheiser strike me as East Coast elitists - Wilbon went to Northwestern (not Ivy League but just as snooty) in Chicago (his home town) but then worked for Washington Post and then ESPN. Kornheiser is a Long Islander who went to what is now SUNY Binghamton and was a Washington Post writer too. then he went to ESPN. The "woke "force is strong with these two! Have to believe they see WNYers as Rednecks and people from the Central Valley in CA as the same. Don't believe they have ever ridden in or, God forbid, driven a Pickup truck. Too bad, their loss! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billschinatown Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 1 minute ago, freddyjj said: Both Wilbon and Kornheiser strike me as East Coast elitists - Wilbon went to Northwestern (not Ivy League but just as snooty) in Chicago (his home town) but then worked for Washington Post and then ESPN. Kornheiser is a Long Islander who went to what is now SUNY Binghamton and was a Washington Post writer too. then he went to ESPN. The "woke "force is strong with these two! Have to believe they see WNYers as Rednecks and people from the Central Valley in CA as the same. Don't believe they have ever ridden in or, God forbid, driven a Pickup truck. Too bad, their loss! Relax lol. ***** em. Go Bills. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LeGOATski Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 The Bills practiced being more physical with receivers this year, specifically because of the AFCCG. It's payback time for what the Chiefs got away with last year. I'm glad we get a ref who doesn't call PI much. They've prepared for THIS EXACT MOMENT and control their own destiny. Go Bills! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_002! Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) With the emergence of MacKenzie and if the Bills will stay committed to the run. I think that offense even more than before is a load to handle. KC gonna have their hands full. If anyone of the two teams start off too slow and fail to slow down the other. Thats ball game in my opinion. Edited January 18, 2022 by Ghost_002! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgia Bill Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Ghost_002! said: With the emergence of MacKenzie and if the Bills will stay committed to the run. I think that offense even more than before is a load to handle. KC gonna have their hands full. If anyone of the two teams start off too slow and fail to slow down the other. Thats ball game in my opinion. I agree. Our O-line is a big factor in the run game too, they have really jelled of late and are playing tough, aggressive football. I think that's an aspect KC really hasn't seen. You could tell by the NE game that this whole Bills team wants it bad! I think the Chiefs are going to be surprised with our new-found physicality. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_002! Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, Georgia Bill said: I agree. Our O-line is a big factor in the run game too, they have really jelled of late and are playing tough, aggressive football. I think that's an aspect KC really hasn't seen. You could tell by the NE game that this whole Bills team wants it bad! I think the Chiefs are going to be surprised with our new-found physicality. I would give the bills the edge over KC cause I think you'll defense is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 hour ago, SCBills said: Wilbon (PTI) completely dumping on Josh Allen. “Just because he was great two days ago doesn’t mean he’ll be great next week” ”Now Josh Allen and the Bills are so great, ehhh, let’s not overreact” It blows my mind, Allen has the weirdest dudes who won’t recognize how good he is. Meanwhile, other guys like Chris Simms wonder if Josh Allen is THE best player in the NFL. The polarization is crazy. What it tells me is he needs to dethrone Mahomes to win over the last of the detractors. I work with a guy who is constantly saying Allen isn't good. I think there's just some people who just won't change their pre draft narrative. They thought he would suck, so they're just gonna stick to it no matter what. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Warcodered Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: McDermott with that question: 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: That's seriously still a question? Why don't they just ask "Hey Sean, is there any chance you can give us a controversial quote? It can be anything, please. Please god, just give us something saucy! P.S. Do you approve of the nickname 'Saucy Sean'?" 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Warcodered Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: That's seriously still a question? Why don't they just ask "Hey Sean, is there any chance you can give us a controversial quote? It can be anything, please. Please god, just give us something saucy! P.S. Do you approve of the nickname 'Saucy Sean'?" I am a 1000% for this nickname. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergie's ire Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 2 hours ago, SCBills said: Wilbon (PTI) completely dumping on Josh Allen. “Just because he was great two days ago doesn’t mean he’ll be great next week” ”Now Josh Allen and the Bills are so great, ehhh, let’s not overreact” It blows my mind, Allen has the weirdest dudes who won’t recognize how good he is. Meanwhile, other guys like Chris Simms wonder if Josh Allen is THE best player in the NFL. The polarization is crazy. What it tells me is he needs to dethrone Mahomes to win over the last of the detractors. Yeah, I'm surprised we are still hearing this. I think the reason for the "Are the national media talking about this historic game" thread is that poster had the feeling that I did. This game was like Don Larson's perfect game in the World Series (or maybe if it was in the NLCS which I know didn't exist at the time). Good Morning Football talked about it as the best playoff QB performance...and maybe simply the best QB performance ever, but most are saying "that was a good game so maybe Buffalo can make the Super Bowl" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 5 hours ago, Warcodered said: 🤔 Who is this player they didn’t have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigvinny Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said: Who is this player they didn’t have? Chris Jones. We were also missing Milano that game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Reid and McDermott could not be any more different with their health and fitness. I remember during the draft footage the Bills put out from last year and Kim Pegula made cookies and the whole staff was eating them in the war room and McDermott was eating Raisin Bran. 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 KC going off on an inferior opponent in Pittsburgh isn't news. Let's see how they do against the #1 defense. Their defense is going to try to bring heat and pressure Josh. It's not going to work. Buffalo has everyone healthy on the OL and in case no one has noticed, Tommy Doyle is now the blocking TE. That's right. An extra OT is blocking for Josh and Singletary. What Buffalo did to a top 5 defense last week was amazing. What do you think they are going to do to this poser KC Defense? This game should result in about the same outcome as the regular season game. A Buffalo win. KC can open up their bag of tricks on offense if they want. In fact, please do.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Reid and McDermott could not be any more different with their health and fitness. I remember during the draft footage the Bills put out from last year and Kim Pegula made cookies and the whole staff was eating them in the war room and McDermott was eating Raisin Bran. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Personally I am super excited for this game, win or lose. I think it’ll be a show, and I’m looking forward to watching the two best young guns in the game go at it. Its an entire 180 from last Saturday, when I dreaded leading up to the game. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 19 minutes ago, Bigvinny said: Chris Jones. We were also missing Milano that game. Milano > Jones 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Will need a HUGE performance from our defense, and IMO will still need to score over 30 points to win !! 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 The fact that this entire team like literally every single player has been waiting a year to play these guys again is also a factor. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97bills Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 21 hours ago, Turbo44 said: Isn’t it a bit inequitable to give the bengals/Titans winner 26 hours more rest for the championship game. especially if it’s the Titans. They’re at home and if they win and Buffalo wins, Buffalo has to fly home from KC and probably get home around 1am Monday and have to fly to Tennessee. That’s why next year we need to get the bye we’ve won the division twice now,we need to shoot for first round bye. Plus it’s one less game to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97bills Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 55 minutes ago, fergie's ire said: Yeah, I'm surprised we are still hearing this. I think the reason for the "Are the national media talking about this historic game" thread is that poster had the feeling that I did. This game was like Don Larson's perfect game in the World Series (or maybe if it was in the NLCS which I know didn't exist at the time). Good Morning Football talked about it as the best playoff QB performance...and maybe simply the best QB performance ever, but most are saying "that was a good game so maybe Buffalo can make the Super Bowl" People just hate Buffalo period!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 21 hours ago, Turbo44 said: Isn’t it a bit inequitable to give the bengals/Titans winner 26 hours more rest for the championship game. especially if it’s the Titans. They’re at home and if they win and Buffalo wins, Buffalo has to fly home from KC and probably get home around 1am Monday and have to fly to Tennessee. No not at all-did you make the same claim about the Bills having an extra day to prepare for the Chiefs? The Bills will get the standard amount of rest, this won’t have an effect at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97bills Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Steptide said: I work with a guy who is constantly saying Allen isn't good. I think there's just some people who just won't change their pre draft narrative. They thought he would suck, so they're just gonna stick to it no matter what. At this point saying Allen isn’t good just sounds like that guy doesn’t really no football or watch it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Reporters are asking questions about something that happened nearly 5 years ago? Move on! 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Mark Vader said: Reporters are asking questions about something that happened nearly 5 years ago? Move on! I mean it's probably always going to be a thing with Mahomes and Allen just the circumstances of them being taken in back to back years and trades being involved. I mean I think we kept hearing about the circumstances of Eli Manning and Philip Rivers like a decade later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, 97bills said: People just hate Buffalo period!!!!! They’ll hate us even more after we win the SB !!! And I’ll be just fine with that !! Edited January 18, 2022 by Putin 1 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 I just rewatched the week 5 Chiefs game, and I forgot how hard the refs tried to keep it close when it got out of hand. Oliver roughing the passer to extend a drive (technically a penalty, but inconsistently called), Kelce pulling Tre White into himself to draw DPI to extend a drive, Mitch Morse completely phantom holding call. The refs in general made that game hard to watch. It was a flag fest. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 minute ago, DapperCam said: I just rewatched the week 5 Chiefs game, and I forgot how hard the refs tried to keep it close when it got out of hand. Oliver roughing the passer to extend a drive (technically a penalty, but inconsistently called), Kelce pulling Tre White into himself to draw DPI to extend a drive, Mitch Morse completely phantom holding call. The refs in general made that game hard to watch. It was a flag fest. and yet Chiefs fans complained about the refs giving us the game for different calls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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