Big Turk Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Per Schefter, most likely and soon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richNjoisy Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 The one thing that seems crazy is, apparently, one does not need to test negative before being allowed to return. If a person is possibly contagious, and if one is still positive, then returning that player to the locker room is insane. I hope the NFL and the PA add on that a player/coach/staff must test negative before they return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Cole Beasley and Gabe Davis are saved and their status didn't matter at all. Shout out @HappyDays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 33 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Do teams that had players miss 2 games prior have a legitimate gripe, that they were put at a competitive disadvantage and that everyone should be forced to miss 10 days for fairness? Nope, those applied to everyone, just like these do. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Awesome news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, FireChans said: Cole Beasley and Gabe Davis are saved and their status didn't matter at all. Shout out @HappyDays So, Cole Beasley was right all along. He was out last week solely because of the rules. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 So it's possible Wentz can return by Sunday if these guidelines are adopted and retroactively used? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 I’m surprised. The guidelines specifically state if you asymptomatic and even then you need to wear a mask for 5 days after. So I thought the mask requirement would stop them from shortening the timeline. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFlutie Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 17 minutes ago, richNjoisy said: The one thing that seems crazy is, apparently, one does not need to test negative before being allowed to return. If a person is possibly contagious, and if one is still positive, then returning that player to the locker room is insane. I hope the NFL and the PA add on that a player/coach/staff must test negative before they return. It's based off of CDC research indicating that most individuals are not contagious after 3 days of symptoms, regardless of testing. This is why they've reduced the public isolation guidance to 5 days, as well, with an extra 5 days of precautionary mask wearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, Big Turk said: So it's possible Wentz can return by Sunday if these guidelines are adopted and retroactively used? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Everything is beginning to move in this direction, as it should have been since the beginning of the season. Better late than never. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 28 minutes ago, richNjoisy said: The one thing that seems crazy is, apparently, one does not need to test negative before being allowed to return. If a person is possibly contagious, and if one is still positive, then returning that player to the locker room is insane. I hope the NFL and the PA add on that a player/coach/staff must test negative before they return. A person can test positive for three months after having it; both NYSDOH and my employer told me that. So requiring a negative test may not be possible. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Just now, Magox said: Everything is beginning to move in this direction, as it should have been since the beginning of the season. Better late than never. The studies providing firm info about timeline for contagious individuals wasn’t available. The league worked with the info in place. It would have been ideal, but I can’t argue that it would have been prudent at the beginning of the season based on the info in hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 36 minutes ago, richNjoisy said: The one thing that seems crazy is, apparently, one does not need to test negative before being allowed to return. If a person is possibly contagious, and if one is still positive, then returning that player to the locker room is insane. I hope the NFL and the PA add on that a player/coach/staff must test negative before they return. You don’t need to test negative but your test results must confirm that you’re no longer contagious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: The studies providing firm info about timeline for contagious individuals wasn’t available. The league worked with the info in place. It would have been ideal, but I can’t argue that it would have been prudent at the beginning of the season based on the info in hand. All the info that was necessary to make a decision was available, even if you look at how the CDC is formulating their decisions, very little of it makes sense, confusing and contradictory. They are being driven by outside forces, companies, labor shortages, $ etc and they are beginning to wind down and go off the exit ramp. Not under the terms that they had hoped but winding down none the less. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Big Turk said: Do teams that had players miss 2 games prior have a legitimate gripe, that they were put at a competitive disadvantage and that everyone should be forced to miss 10 days for fairness? Doubt it matters, NFL wants it's stars to play and not have replacement level players in there like it was the strike shortened season in 1987 Yes, they have gripes. But business, first entertainment, second sport/athletics, third Results of Game do not matter in the slightest. We are all watching and continue watching. No matter what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Big Turk said: Do teams that had players miss 2 games prior have a legitimate gripe, that they were put at a competitive disadvantage and that everyone should be forced to miss 10 days for fairness? Doubt it matters, NFL wants it's stars to play and not have replacement level players in there like it was the strike shortened season in 1987 IMO, no. This is a fluid situation, and you change as the information changes. Can they regret the timing? Does it suck on some level? Yep, of course, but reducing the number of games missed makes this a better league with more players eligible, and I think that’s what most people want. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Done and done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted December 28, 2021 Author Share Posted December 28, 2021 Yup. Should mean Gabe back Yup. Should mean Gabe back Yup. Should mean Gabe back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Steptide said: Is this currently asymptomatic, or asymptomatic the whole time? And how long must they be asymptomatic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said: Done and done. Cole is back! The Bills are no worse for the wear. We should celebrate. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: Is this currently asymptomatic, or asymptomatic the whole time? And how long must they be asymptomatic? No idea, I think at this point the NFL just wants the games played with as many players as possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalftimeAdjustment Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Steptide said: No idea, I think at this point the NFL just wants the games played with as many players as possible Next up, they take a positive player's SpO2 level before the game. 94 or up, you're good to go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 hour ago, FireChans said: Cole Beasley and Gabe Davis are saved and their status didn't matter at all. Shout out @HappyDays They both were subjected to daily testing and ended up missing a game as a result. But I'm glad this change is happening just because it will make the playoffs less of a wildcard. If I were the NFL I would also freeze all covid testing of vaccinated players unless they were symptomatic. My worst fear is Allen is chosen for random testing a couple days before a playoff game and tests positive with no symptoms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, FireChans said: Cole is back! The Bills are no worse for the wear. We should celebrate. And likely Davis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 I'm a little bit unsure how the rule works. Is it 5 days from the positive test as long as you're asymptomatic at that time? Or 5 days from when the symptoms stop? What if a vaccinated player is randomly tested and tests positive but has no symptoms? Could they immediately be taken off the list the next day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 23 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: Yup. Should mean Gabe back Yup. Should mean Gabe back Yup. Should mean Gabe back What about Cole? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, HappyDays said: They both were subjected to daily testing and ended up missing a game as a result. But I'm glad this change is happening just because it will make the playoffs less of a wildcard. If I were the NFL I would also freeze all covid testing of vaccinated players unless they were symptomatic. My worst fear is Allen is chosen for random testing a couple days before a playoff game and tests positive with no symptoms. We've had many players, vaxxed and unvaxxed, miss games. Glad to see the new guidelines. These men are in tremendous shape, for the most part. I can't imagine having to see Allen miss a playoff game when he has no symptoms or a runny nose. Edited December 28, 2021 by Beast 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HalftimeAdjustment Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Will this mean less junk posts about the league's treatment of the unvaccinated players? Can we go back to complaining about Edmunds' play? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 So basically after a positive test, a player will be out for 5 days. After that 5 day period if they have no symptoms they can return to the team without additional testing. The rule is the same for vaccinated and unvaccinated players, the only distinction now is the testing frequency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalftimeAdjustment Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: So basically after a positive test, a player will be out for 5 days. After that 5 day period if they have no symptoms they can return to the team without additional testing. The rule is the same for vaccinated and unvaccinated players, the only distinction now is the testing frequency. No, buried in there is a "test out" provision where vaccinated players can come back in less than 5 days with 2 negative tests. Of course the likely reason for becoming negative in less than 5 days is a false positive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Patrick Duffy Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 23 minutes ago, Big Turk said: What about Cole? He should be back too. Although honestly would like to see more McKenzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: He should be back too. Although honestly would like to see more McKenzie Mckenzie had an awesome game but Beasley has had 76 catches to date. We can use both of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Symptoms on the honor system 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: Mckenzie had an awesome game but Beasley has had 76 catches to date. We can use both of them. Well yeah Bease is going to have more catches since he's the starter and McK isn't on the field hardly at all when Bease is playing besides KR.. You can't get a lot of catches/stats when not playing. But yes obviously we can use both, I meant wanting to see more opportunities for McK. Edited December 28, 2021 by Sheneneh Jenkins 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 10 to 5 sounds good. No testing provokes thought. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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