If anyone wants to say the NFL isn't rigged, please re-watch that game

[UKBillFan]

If it had been a stupid play call which cost us, and I suppose you coul argue with the 4 and 3 punt it was to an extent, then that's one thing but the calls were ridiculous. No PI for us but as soon as Evans wrapped up Wallace they couldn't wait to get the flags out.

 

All we want is fairness and an even-handed approach. Get that and we would have had a great chance of winning today.

[CoudyBills]

1 minute ago, UKBillFan said:

If it had been a stupid play call which cost us, and I suppose you coul argue with the 4 and 3 punt it was to an extent, then that's one thing but the calls were ridiculous. No PI for us but as soon as Evans wrapped up Wallace they couldn't wait to get the flags out.

 

All we want is fairness and an even-handed approach. Get that and we would have had a great chance of winning today.

It's 100% WWE.  I just can't anymore.

[nedboy7]

It is rigged lite.  Has been for a long time.  That was gross. 

[May Day 10]

I really almost never blame officiating...but that sting of 4-5 calls essentially determined the outcome of the game

[Baba Booey]

I said this on this board when tha Patriots came back against the Falcons during the super bowl. And I got roasted by posters, your absolutely right!!

[Pabstblueribbon]

Anyone got the still shot of diggs jersey growing 3 sizes being yanked from behind? I can't remember such inconsistent calling of PI in a long time.. and that says alot

[dave mcbride]

Just now, May Day 10 said:

I really almost never blame officiating...but that sting of 4-5 calls essentially determined the outcome of the game

Most were borderline, but the DPI call on wallace should get an official demoted. What a terrible game-changing call.

[Freddie's Dead]

 

The non-DPI call against Diggs in the end zone was egregiously ridiculous.

[BBills88]

Josh Allen put this team on his back today.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

4 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

If it had been a stupid play call which cost us, and I suppose you coul argue with the 4 and 3 punt it was to an extent, then that's one thing but the calls were ridiculous. No PI for us but as soon as Evans wrapped up Wallace they couldn't wait to get the flags out.

 

All we want is fairness and an even-handed approach. Get that and we would have had a great chance of winning today.

 

Its not rigged, but they definitely influence the game the way they want to go.

 

 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

Just now, May Day 10 said:

I really almost never blame officiating...but that sting of 4-5 calls essentially determined the outcome of the game

It’s crazy that they all go Brady’s teams way…they beat Dallas earlier in the year on a ridiculous OPI that wasn’t called where Godwin shoved the db with both hands. Only questionable call we got was the roughing the passer call but that looked like the right call at least by the rules 

[MJS]

Ball spots were off all night in favor of the Bucs. Lots of other little things.

 

But the refs were not why the Bills lost. The Bills playing like crap for more than a half is why they lost.

 

It was fun to watch them come back, at least. Allen is a warrior.

[Utah John]

I stopped keeping track of the number of times the refs charged a yardage tax whenever a Bill made a positive play.  There's no other way to look at it except as a tax, like a sales tax.  OK, Diggs makes a catch and is tackled on the 26 yard line, clearly not touched until past the 25.  The ball is spotted at the 24.  This was the most egregious case but this went on and on.

 

The lack of a PI call when Diggs was held in the end zone, when a Bills TD takes the lead at the end of the 4th quarter.  Can't have that.  But Evans tackles Wallace and Wallace is called for PI. 

 

Josh gets hit late in the pocket, and late on a run out of bounds.  No calls.  

 

OMG it was terrible.  

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 minute ago, Pabstblueribbon said:

Anyone got the still shot of diggs jersey growing 3 sizes being yanked from behind? I can't remember such inconsistent calling of PI in a long time.. and that says alot

Oh it was consistent…just consistently called in one teams favor 😂

[GunnerBill]

The no call on Diggs as the end is as egregious as the no call on Nickel Robey-Coleman in the NFCCG a few years back. 

 

I have no idea how you don't call that.

[phypon]

I think I would use the word "influenced".  I've been hearing quite a bit of this lately from people that are Pats fans, Tampa fans, and don't post on message boards.  I think it's pretty apparent by now that there is more going on with the officiating in the games.

 

With that said, unfortunately, this team is just not coached well enough to win the big games or overcome a few bad calls.  It's not all on the refs, hence my use of "influenced".

[Not at the table Karlos]

There's no consistency. Something may be a penalty on one drive but not the next. There's definite favoritism, certain teams get benefit of doubt. 

 

[LABILLBACKER]

The NFL has been quietly corrupt for years. I've rewatched that Diggs PI and he was held for 4 full yards all the way into the endzone. They want their Brady Belichick SB, they'll get it.  The NFL should be like 8 teams playing each other because they could care less about everyone else.

[nedboy7]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Its not rigged, but they definitely influence the game the way they want to go.

 

 

 

Exactly.  We did enough to win today.  Yet all week will be about how we need to fire McD and how the entire team minus JA sucks. 

 

 

Edited December 13, 2021 by nedboy7

[dave mcbride]

Just now, Freddie's Dead said:

 

The non-DPI call against Diggs in the end zone was egregiously ridiculous.

Enh, he was doing it too. Thought it was a fair no call. The call on Wallace was the one that was the worst. I mean, they called it on the defense when it should clearly have been called on the offense. The end of PI penalty reviews is a bad thing. 

[zow2]

Allen three the ball 54 times today i don’t recall a PI or defensive holding.  The one on Diggs in the end zone was obvious.

[Niagara Dude]

Just now, dave mcbride said:

Most were borderline, but the DPI call on wallace should get an official demoted. What a terrible game-changing call.

I don't agree it was a game changing play,  we had them down at 2 Nd 17 and let up to allow Gronk pick 14 yards on second down.  That was huge and the biggest game changing play was the missed holding on Diggs in the end zone

[BuffaloBillies]

3 terrible non-calls against TB

1+ terrible call against Bills

[JoshAllin]

Add in Edmunds on the fix

[nedboy7]

1 minute ago, MJS said:

Ball spots were off all night in favor of the Bucs. Lots of other little things.

 

But the refs were not why the Bills lost. The Bills playing like crap for more than a half is why they lost.

 

It was fun to watch them come back, at least. Allen is a warrior.

 

The whole team fought in the come back.  Not one dude no matter how awesome JA is.  Defense needs praise too.  No matter how much everyone wants to cut them. 

[TuelTime]

Only time Bucs OL gets called for holding its offsetting penalties too..

[NewEra]

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

The no call on Diggs as the end is as egregious as the no call on Nickel Robey-Coleman in the NFCCG a few years back. 

 

I have no idea how you don't call that.

Yes, you have an idea. 

[LABILLBACKER]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Its not rigged, but they definitely influence the game the way they want to go.

 

 

Ahhhh....that's called rigged. 

[NewEra]

Just now, TuelTime said:

Only time Bucs OL gets called for holding its offsetting penalties too..

On a defensive holding call that is NEVER shown.  This is just too much nonsense

[dave mcbride]

4 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said:

I don't agree it was a game changing play,  we had them down at 2 Nd 17 and let up to allow Gronk pick 14 yards on second down.  That was huge and the biggest game changing play was the missed holding on Diggs in the end zone

.? — It was first down and 10 at the 16. If it gets called on evans — as it certainly should have —  it’s first and 18 from the 8. Instead, it’s first and 10 from the 36. I  felt Diggs plowed into the DB in the EZ, which was a signal to allow them to play. I didn’t have an issue with that non-call. 

Edited December 13, 2021 by dave mcbride

[Sharky7337]

When they want to job us, it's just sticky coverage 

[Niagara Dude]

Just now, dave mcbride said:

.? — It was first down and 10 at the 16. If it gets called on evans, it’s first and 18 from the 8. Instead, it’s first and 10 from the 36.

It was huge but if Edmunds makes a tackle in the hole we get off the field,  

[Rocbillsfan1]

5 minutes ago, May Day 10 said:

I really almost never blame officiating...but that sting of 4-5 calls essentially determined the outcome of the game

I didn’t want to complain last week but now that pass interference on Knox at the end of the Patriots game where the dB had him completely wrapped up pisses me off even more now. The last two weeks the bills didn’t do enough to overcome the refs and that’s on them but god I am sick of watching this ***** league. The refs can all go ***** themselves. Had a conversation about being down with buying season tickets. The game is so so ***** one sided with the calls each week and has been for a long time. 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Ahhhh....that's called rigged. 

 

No, rigged is all the players and staff are in on the fix.

 

 

[Beast]

8 minutes ago, Utah John said:

I stopped keeping track of the number of times the refs charged a yardage tax whenever a Bill made a positive play.  There's no other way to look at it except as a tax, like a sales tax.  OK, Diggs makes a catch and is tackled on the 26 yard line, clearly not touched until past the 25.  The ball is spotted at the 24.  This was the most egregious case but this went on and on.

 

The lack of a PI call when Diggs was held in the end zone, when a Bills TD takes the lead at the end of the 4th quarter.  Can't have that.  But Evans tackles Wallace and Wallace is called for PI. 

 

Josh gets hit late in the pocket, and late on a run out of bounds.  No calls.  

 

OMG it was terrible.  

 

Agreed so much.

 

That play on 3rd down, Beasley clearly had the first down but it ended up 4th and 1. Allen still made it but just another example in a long list of head scratching calls and non-calls.

Edited December 13, 2021 by Beast

[Rocbillsfan1]

Can someone show me a replay of the Allen run at the end of the game please? 

[Freddie's Dead]

5 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Enh, he was doing it too. Thought it was a fair no call. The call on Wallace was the one that was the worst. I mean, they called it on the defense when it should clearly have been called on the offense. The end of PI penalty reviews is a bad thing. 

 

Not sure why you're OK with Davis tackling Stef before the ball got there.  We just gonna disagree on this one.

Edited December 13, 2021 by Freddie's Dead

[Clyde Smith]

Notice the commentary made no mention of White until the Bills was coming back in the 4th, but praised the secondary to make Brady look good up until they made mention of Tre.

[LABILLBACKER]

2 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said:

It was huge but if Edmunds makes a tackle in the hole we get off the field,  

Edmunds has not made 1 big play in his 4 worthless years in Buffalo.

[dave mcbride]

Just now, Freddie's Dead said:

 

Not sure why you're OK with Davis tackling Stef before the ball got there.  We just gonna disagree on this one.

Fair enough; I thought both players were playing rough and it wasn’t slam dunk pass interference at all given what diggs did at the top of the route. The Evans play was brutal however and cost the bills the game. From first and 18 at the 8 to first and 10 from the 36 is just ridiculous given what actually happened on that play.