msw2112 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 (edited) I think he could re-sign with the Bills in the offseason if the opportunity with the Giants doesn't turn out to be a good one for him. There's no doubt that being on the Giants active roster is a better place to be than on any team's practice squad, but who knows what the Bills might have available next year. Edited November 30, 2021 by msw2112 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 No production from a 5th rounder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 30, 2021 Author Share Posted November 30, 2021 17 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Man there goes my number one pick !! I remember when you predicted he would go #1. To be fair he had a good start at UGA 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 How’d they get through the bubble wrap? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 13 minutes ago, Beast said: And why wouldn't he have a clear path as the Giants backup? He might; it's just obviously a very unstable situation there with NYG. Here, he could be the primary backup for years in a stable situation with a winning organization. Maybe he has delusions that he's good enough to start and thinks he'll have a chance to compete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: I remember when you predicted he would go #1. To be fair he had a good start at UGA You have a better memory than me, i dont remember that all lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 You win some, you lose Fromm. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Well that’s a win for Miami lol they said Jones strained his neck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 In the NFL, you never know where your first opportunity can come Fromm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 25 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Some have. I'm blanking on the name, but during a year when the Bills were horribly hurting for QB.....I guess it was EJM's rookie year? 2013? We started Jeff Tuel and Thad Lewis at QB....anyway we tried to sign a QB from someone's practice squad and he said "Nope, Thanks, I'm Good!" Also it used to be a team could choose to pay a PS player more $$ and I don't think the PS salaries counted against the cap. Now they count, and it's a standard one rate of pay for rookies and another for vets. Thank you for clarifying .. never knew that .. assumed they just had to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 26 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: The Bills were never going to invest and develop Jake. How exactly do you know their plans for Fromm? Do you really think they drafted him planning on not trying to develop him?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: He might; it's just obviously a very unstable situation there with NYG. Here, he could be the primary backup for years in a stable situation with a winning organization. Maybe he has delusions that he's good enough to start and thinks he'll have a chance to compete. The dude isn't even on the active roster what are you talking about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said: How exactly do you know their plans for Fromm? Do you really think they drafted him planning on not trying to develop him?! I mean they just cut him 3 months ago. Not exactly a vote of confidence. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 40 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Yes, PS players are essentially Free Agents and can sign (or decline to sign) with any team. But the Giants must pay him 3 weeks regular roster money, which is $43k/game or a minimum of $130k. As a practice squad guy, he earns $9,200/week So if he stays on their roster only 3 weeks then reverts to a practice squad somewhere, that's an extra $101k Guy just got married, that would be serious money to turn down Exactly right. People forget that there are many reasons players do the things they do. It's almost like they are real human beings. Many factors go into decisions. An extra $100k and Christmas near NYC is a dream come true for many newly married couples. Beat of luck to both! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, QCity said: I mean they just cut him 3 months ago. Not exactly a vote of confidence. I was responding to someone who said it was a wasted pick, because they were "never" going to develop him. Players don't work out all the time, it doesn't mean the team didn't do their due diligence or it's a result of incompetence. Edited December 1, 2021 by Captain Caveman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Augie said: But…..who will handle all our insurance needs? A dome team might have been a better landing spot for him, but I’m sure he’s just happy to make an active roster. LEEEEMOOOO EEEMMOOOO! & Doug 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Captain Caveman said: I was responding to someone who said it was a wasted pick, because they were "never" going to develop him. Players don't work out all the time, it doesn't mean the team didn't due their due diligence or it's a result of incompetence. OK I see that now, took that out of context for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, FireChans said: The dude isn't even on the active roster what are you talking about. Next year, no Trubisky and Webb might retire and become a coach. At minimum, you compete with Webb for the backup job. They drafted Fromm in the 5th round to be more than a practice squad player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said: How exactly do you know their plans for Fromm? Do you really think they drafted him planning on not trying to develop him?! Fair point, I don’t. But what evidence do you see they tried to develop him? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Fromm has arrived!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: he knows the dolphins really well…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 14 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: You win some, you lose Fromm. Who is that quote Fromm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 (edited) Congrats Jake! You would be a fool to stay on the ps when ya can get on a NFL roster get mo money and benefits. Best of luck! Edited December 1, 2021 by Mike in Horseheads 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 He could start for Cleveland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: Congrats Matt! You would be a fool to stay on the ps when ya can get on a NFL roster get mo money and benefits. Best of luck! Who is Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Jakes chances of playing for this team were next to none.....but good luck to him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 He knew he didn't have a chance to start and possibly even to back up due to Josh staying healthy and if he even wants or thinks he's a starter he probably wants a better opportunity for that chance but i don't think it's a huge loss for the Bills . I do think he would have been a good back up after this season . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, prissythecat said: Who is Matt Ya that was a dumb ass mistake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Two things: 1) When drafted, he was expected by everyone to either be a lock for A) Long term and immediate answer at QB2 B) The not so distant future replacement to Josh Allen, because you can’t improve accuracy. 2) This man would have been a wildly popular message board legend during the Drought. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakout Squad Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 51 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: I need to disagree with this. The Bills were never going to invest and develop Jake. They could have used that pick on an interior olineman or a DB. BTW I am a huge UGA fan. Never thought Jake was going to amount to much in the NFL due to his lack of physical traits. I respect your opinion. As far as physical attributes, the picture of Jones overweight with a cigar in his mouth shows that sometimes physical attributes in college aren’t indicative of how they treat their body in the NFL. We’ve all seen Brady’s combine picture and he’s an enigma now. Talking a shot on any other position than QB would be justified but I didn’t mind taking a shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Very questionable and shortsighted career move by Fromm. He had a good chance to be the long-term primary backup for a winning organization starting next year. Puzzling as I'm not sure how this helps him except for very short-term financial gain. Now, he goes to a very unstable situation, likely facing offseason upheaval. Maybe he saw the writing in the wall, all the best to him. Guess we'll take a kid next year in Rounds 5-7 and sign another vet assuming Mitch leaves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 18 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Fair point, I don’t. But what evidence do you see they tried to develop him? I've heard several commentators talk about how this coaching staff tries to develop every player on the roster down to the practice squad guys, and note that that specifically didn't happen with past administrations. I see it on the field too. If Fromm didn't work out, it's not because the Bills didn't try to develop him. It also doesn't mean they were going to hand him the job, he had to beat out his competition like everyone else on the roster, and he didn't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakout Squad Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Two things: 1) When drafted, he was expected by everyone to either be a lock for A) Long term and immediate answer at QB2 B) The not so distant future replacement to Josh Allen, because you can’t improve accuracy. 2) This man would have been a wildly popular message board legend during the Drought. It was a low risk - high reward situation. I liked the pick and I don’t think Beane regrets it either 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Just now, Breakout Squad said: It was a low risk - high reward situation. I liked the pick and I don’t think Beane regrets it either Maybe Beane let an old colleague in Gettleman get something with whispers his job in danger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 48 minutes ago, Beast said: He probably won't see the field this year but if you have watched Daniel Jones play you'd know that there is most likely going to be a QB competition with the G-men next training camp. And why wouldn't he have a clear path as the Giants backup? Sounds like he may see the field. Danny Dimes is reported to have a neck strain and will likely miss some time. Giants backup is Mike Glennon. Glennon is always likely to see the bench. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakout Squad Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 1 minute ago, The Jokeman said: Maybe Beane let an old colleague in Gettleman get something with whispers his job in danger. That’s possible. Your success in the NFL is unequivocally based on how good your QB is. I never have a problem taking a late round flyer on a QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Breakout Squad said: That’s possible. Your success in the NFL is unequivocally based on how good your QB is. I never have a problem taking a late round flyer on a QB. Agreed, Ron Wolf when GM of the Packers proved it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 😮 what are we to do Fromm now on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 1 hour ago, delirious said: I like Davis Webb more. See yah later, Jake What is there to like about Davis Webb? I never want to see him take the field in a Bills uniform. Jake Fromm had an excellent college career. Never understood the crap many Bills fans gave him. And if I am a Giants fan I sure as hell hope Jake Fromm has more game then Daniel Jones has. Because Jones' performance last Monday nite against the Bucs was atrocious. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delirious Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said: What is there to like about Davis Webb? I never want to see him take the field in a Bills uniform. Jake Fromm had an excellent college career. Never understood the crap many Bills fans gave him. And if I am a Giants fan I sure as hell hope Jake Fromm has more game then Daniel Jones has. Because Jones' performance last Monday nite against the Bucs was atrocious. 1. Idk because I like Davis Webb. 2. When the media took videos of training camp practices, it was always Allen and Webb having fun racing and joking around. 3. Jake Fromm has a noodle arm, and so does Webb, but I think Davis Webb is smarter (from reports by media in the past) 4. Fromm is JAG and a waste of a 5th round pick that could have been utilized elsewhere imo so I naturally don't like that. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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