Scott7975 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 I feel like this has been a long week. Seems like forever since last Sunday. Can this game get here already lol. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Well you are sorta' straw-manning here. You quote that I'm wrong about the CB draft...........but then you go on about DB's in general. Two different arguments. That 2017 draft didn't have a true superstar at the top nor a bunch of CB's with both good overall track records but also running sub 4.4's............there were a lot of question marks. Tre White wasn't a workout warrior but he was everything else. That's what I liked about him. In hindsight Lattimore and Humphrey got put in great situations and have done well(Humphrey less-so without the normal fierce Ravens pass rush support this year). But yeah.......White IS the best of the bunch.........though none of the successes have been Jalen Ramsey or Stephon Gilmore level good. Even at the time Lattimore was basically at best Gilmore but with A LOT of injury concerns........so NOT a dynamic looking group. But again........part of me watching the CB's in season was also considering who would fit well on a Bills roster desperate for safety help. As you know.........I would almost never pick any safety in round 1.........so White was intriguing to me because I thought he could do both at a high level. The Bills were loaded at CB at the time with Gilmore(franchise option) and Darby under team control.......but you can never have enough if you end up playing a lot of man. When the scheme changed and they inexplicably let Gilmore walk for nothing.......that elevated White to an asset of much greater value to the Bills. Also keep in mind........this was still around the time when you had takes like "Shaq Lawson is the 9th overall player on my board in the entire draft"........... Yep. I was wrong on Shaq. I was not wrong on the corners in 2017. It was a really good class and it has produced 3 top 10 NFL cornerbacks. How many other classes can you say that of? EDIT: I also had Jalen Ramsey as the #1 player in his entire class when the talk at the time was he'd need to be a safety in the NFL. Even now with defensive ends my hit rate isn't super high. My record with defensive backs is much better. Edited November 20, 2021 by GunnerBill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 I’d be a lot more confident if Jonathan Taylor was missing for this. But then I felt even more confident about the Jags match up when they announced James Robinson was absent and… Spencer Brown being on the Covid list doesn’t help either. Get to 8-3 heading into the Pats and I’ll feel happier but I do worry not taking advantage of the schedule could be our downfall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Hey. You got linkies, there, Bro? Would like to take you up on the suggestion. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shout-a-football-podcast-on-the-buffalo-bills/id1507446314?i=1000542411904 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/what-the-bills-can-expect-from-the-colts-with-zak-keefer/id1373776577?i=1000542502129 Here ya go. Great for listening while driving around today or pregame tomorrow. Edited November 20, 2021 by atlbillsfan1975 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 6 hours ago, Italian Bills said: And still they are 5-5…. What does that have to do with the stats I posted? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 9 hours ago, Italian Bills said: And still they are 5-5…. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 13 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: I'd suggest you stay out of the investigative journalist field. As I've said.........I don't dig up my work to prove something to a random reader of my post.........there are literally thousands of people reading this forum every day. Pretty sure you just floated to the surface here when the toilet got flushed at BuffaloBills.com message board..........if you were wrong enough to be there instead of here THEN.......well you have a tendency to be really wrong, IMO. So you went half-assed looking hoping to find nothing..........and instead very quickly came away with circumstantial evidence that suggests you were wrong about my approval of White..........so you've decided you were....... right?? Mmkay. Keep in mind......... @Logic declared that I have been a critic of Tre White........anyone who reads my stuff regularly.........and now you after seeing the post declaring the pick a success..........knows that is not correct. Did you see me demanding that he provide evidence? I simply refuted it because I know he's wrong. So your problem is the perception that I didn't "bang the table" for Tre White? I rarely do that for anyone. For instance the only player I really advocated for PRIOR to the 2014 draft was Aaron Donald. I started a thread, gave my reasons. Left it at that. A lot of people thought he was more of a mid-late first rounder.....some even felt he didn't belong in round 1. Probably the least responded too thread started in my entire time on TSW. He ended up being what I said he would........an instant smash success.......and now he's easily been the best player from that draft........maybe the best defensive player picked at all since then. But I didn't bang the table 100 times then either so I guess it doesn't count. A high volume of speculation about acquiring players doesn't will it into existence. If we are going to get into repetitive discussion I prefer discussing things that are more within team control. Oh look another I am better than you post by badobillz how original 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 jonathan taylor will equal the record for most consecutive 100 yd rushing games (8) if he rushes for 100 yds this week - can we keep him under 100? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 13 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Franchise record for consecutive games with a 100+ passer rating is 6 by Jim Kelly and spanned the 1990 and 1991 seasons. Allen had 5 going into the Jags game. If it was not for that debacle he would be at 7 which would have matched Mahomes career high streak set back in 2018. The NFL record is 12 games set by Aaron Rodgers in the 2011 season. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 23 minutes ago, SydneyBillsFan said: jonathan taylor will equal the record for most consecutive 100 yd rushing games (8) if he rushes for 100 yds this week - can we keep him under 100? Don't care. Just get the Dub We gave up 120 rush yards to the Chiefs and won. Gave up 146 rush yards to the Titans and lost, but it wasn't the rush yards that did for us in a 3 point loss. 2 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob71 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 not feeling to confident about this match up, prob due to covid and injuries and Colts being pretty healthy, JA may have to have a "take the game over" type of performance which he is def capable of doing (if he gets any time to throw) he pretty much put the team on his back the last time these two teams played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 5 hours ago, UKBillFan said: I’d be a lot more confident if Jonathan Taylor was missing for this. But then I felt even more confident about the Jags match up when they announced James Robinson was absent and… Spencer Brown being on the Covid list doesn’t help either. Get to 8-3 heading into the Pats and I’ll feel happier but I do worry not taking advantage of the schedule could be our downfall. Look at it this way. If we "take advantage of the schedule" by beating the Jags yet can't handle the rest of the schedule, we're not where we need to be anyway. In the best case scenario, the Jags loss was the equivalent of ripping the bandage off a nasty boil that had been festering since the end of last season and popped up in the season opener loss - to whit, Daboll's apparent persistent belief that we can win games without offering other teams the shred of a threat towards a run game, thus allowing them to blanket the field with 5 defenders plus 2 safeties and bring overload pressure with 4 by vacating one side of the line (because they know we won't run). I think we dismissed Pittsburgh as an anomaly due to their strong DL, but now other teams with merely decent DLs have shown they can do it. So now we all see it. The unanswered questions are 1) can we "heal" during the season against teams other than the Jets, with the personnel we have? 2) do we need Spencer Brown at RT and Williams at RG to make that work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Don't care. Just get the Dub We gave up 120 rush yards to the Chiefs and won. Gave up 146 rush yards to the Titans and lost, but it wasn't the rush yards that did for us in a 3 point loss. to me, on D, the key is going to be third down stops. Taylor will get his runs. We usually don’t give up many big plays. So, can we stop them on 3rd and 4ish in this game? If so, the D will come out ahead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 hour ago, billybob71 said: not feeling to confident about this match up, prob due to covid and injuries and Colts being pretty healthy, JA may have to have a "take the game over" type of performance which he is def capable of doing (if he gets any time to throw) he pretty much put the team on his back the last time these two teams played. Colts aren’t that healthy. They have a lot of guys who are playing injured. Not unlike a lot of teams at this point of the season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Colts aren’t that healthy. They have a lot of guys who are playing injured. Not unlike a lot of teams at this point of the season. Just read Leonard has been in on 9 turnovers for the Colts all while playing on a bum ankle the entire season. Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 hour ago, SydneyBillsFan said: jonathan taylor will equal the record for most consecutive 100 yd rushing games (8) if he rushes for 100 yds this week - can we keep him under 100? Good question. I would rather the Bills stay in their “base D” which happens to be a nickel package. Maybe have Johnson sneak up and and a safety. Pittman and Taylor are the main threats. Wentz to me is very Ryan Tannehill like as a threat. He isn’t going to take a game over and throw for 300+ yards unless that’s what you are leaving him. In fact Wentz has one game over 300 yards…against Baltimore when he threw for 401 with a long 76 TD throw. Mostly he is in the mid to low 200’s and some well below that. Bills should play their D and make the Colts work for every yard. Think the Bills O is able to put numbers up on the Colts D, will come down to not settling for field goals in the redzone for the Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Good question. I would rather the Bills stay in their “base D” which happens to be a nickel package. Maybe have Johnson sneak up and and a safety. Pittman and Taylor are the main threats. Wentz to me is very Ryan Tannehill like as a threat. He isn’t going to take a game over and throw for 300+ yards unless that’s what you are leaving him. In fact Wentz has one game over 300 yards…against Baltimore when he threw for 401 with a long 76 TD throw. Mostly he is in the mid to low 200’s and some well below that. Bills should play their D and make the Colts work for every yard. Think the Bills O is able to put numbers up on the Colts D, will come down to not settling for field goals in the redzone for the Bills. This. All about holding the Colts to field goals. Do that and this is a very winnable game. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 11 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Good question. I would rather the Bills stay in their “base D” which happens to be a nickel package. Maybe have Johnson sneak up and and a safety. Pittman and Taylor are the main threats. Wentz to me is very Ryan Tannehill like as a threat. He isn’t going to take a game over and throw for 300+ yards unless that’s what you are leaving him. In fact Wentz has one game over 300 yards…against Baltimore when he threw for 401 with a long 76 TD throw. Mostly he is in the mid to low 200’s and some well below that. Bills should play their D and make the Colts work for every yard. Think the Bills O is able to put numbers up on the Colts D, will come down to not settling for field goals in the redzone for the Bills. The one game the Bills did not stay in their base nickel D was against the titans and they got shredded. Hopefully they learned to adjust after that film. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of a K-Gun Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 51 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Good question. I would rather the Bills stay in their “base D” which happens to be a nickel package. Maybe have Johnson sneak up and and a safety. Pittman and Taylor are the main threats. Wentz to me is very Ryan Tannehill like as a threat. He isn’t going to take a game over and throw for 300+ yards unless that’s what you are leaving him. In fact Wentz has one game over 300 yards…against Baltimore when he threw for 401 with a long 76 TD throw. Mostly he is in the mid to low 200’s and some well below that. Bills should play their D and make the Colts work for every yard. Think the Bills O is able to put numbers up on the Colts D, will come down to not settling for field goals in the redzone for the Bills. Pretty sure his long 76 yard throw against Baltimore was just a little dump off to Taylor on the sideline, and Taylor did the rest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: The one game the Bills did not stay in their base nickel D was against the titans and they got shredded. Hopefully they learned to adjust after that film. ??? Against Tennessee, Taron Johnson took 94% of the snaps so Bills were in NIckel 94% of the time. 6% AJ Klein, but I didn't notice him doing anything that was particularly responsible for the loss? I mean it's 3 plays, he had 1 tackle and 1 assist. 1 hour ago, Son of a K-Gun said: Pretty sure his long 76 yard throw against Baltimore was just a little dump off to Taylor on the sideline, and Taylor did the rest. Yup that was it. First Indy possession of the game. 1 and 10 false start. 1 and 15 incomplete. 2nd and 15 incomplete. 3rd and 15 little dump off to Taylor behind the LOS (not even at sideline) and BAMMO, 76 yds, TD with Wink Martindale suffering a hypertensive episode on the sideline 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Son of a K-Gun said: Pretty sure his long 76 yard throw against Baltimore was just a little dump off to Taylor on the sideline, and Taylor did the rest. Yea, I didn’t check into the specifics. Thank you for clarifying. I didn’t mean to mislead anyone. Sure sounds like the Bills on O and D need to do what they do best and see if they can take care of business. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BADOLBILZ Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: The one game the Bills did not stay in their base nickel D was against the titans and they got shredded. Hopefully they learned to adjust after that film. 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: ??? Against Tennessee, Taron Johnson took 94% of the snaps so Bills were in NIckel 94% of the time. 6% AJ Klein, but I didn't notice him doing anything that was particularly responsible for the loss? Good gouge, Hapless. @YoloinOhio did you even watch the game?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Actually, I'm here to learn if we had any practice squad elevations this week. Did I miss it up-thread? It's 4 pm Saturday, isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 38 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Actually, I'm here to learn if we had any practice squad elevations this week. Did I miss it up-thread? It's 4 pm Saturday, isn't it? I only know that we protected DTs Ankou and Bryant and DB Josh Thomas. I haven't seen anything on elevations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Actually, I'm here to learn if we had any practice squad elevations this week. Did I miss it up-thread? It's 4 pm Saturday, isn't it? No elevations yet but I don’t think the deadline is today. I think that is only for actual roster moves. Bryant was elevated last Sunday morning when Star went on the covid list . Edited November 20, 2021 by YoloinOhio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 16 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: No elevations yet but I don’t think the deadline is today. I think that is only for actual roster moves. Bryant was elevated last Sunday morning when Star went on the covid list . I thought the deadline was 4 pm today unless there was a gameday Covid list addition? The Bills got to elevate Bryant last Sunday because they had a gameday add to the Covid list (Star L.). They can also take a player off of the Covid list on gameday if they are able to do so. But I could be wrong. I guess "no news is good news" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 I'm going to pick the Bills to win, 29-17 . This game has a vibe similar to the 49ers game. We are facing a tough, albeit flawed opponent. Even though Bills are down, people underscore how well we can do tough. 12-2 over last 2 years at home. I know the Jags game was rough, but over the past 2 years, the team has : -played top rushing teams well. -played top defenses well. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukestreetking Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 I realize everyone is worried sick about this, so I'll give a sitrep: For the 7th consecutive game some a-holes have me in a 1p zoom conference. I mean, seriously, WTF is wrong with these people? Thank you for your attention. You may resume scheduled programming. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 38 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I thought the deadline was 4 pm today unless there was a gameday Covid list addition? The Bills got to elevate Bryant last Sunday because they had a gameday add to the Covid list (Star L.). They can also take a player off of the Covid list on gameday if they are able to do so. But I could be wrong. I guess "no news is good news" Oh maybe that is the case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Oh maybe that is the case Well, if I'm correct, it's interesting because it has us going into the game with 3 DL which is unusual given McD "I must rotate my DL!" philosophy Last week, as you note, we elevated Brandin Bryant when Lotulelei went out, although he wasn't active in the game. Just seems odd we wouldn't want to go into the game with 4 DL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Quote Elevation of up to two practice squad players to the active roster, without removing any current players, before 4 p.m. ET the day before a game. Elevation of an additional practice squad player within 90 minutes before kickoff in the event of a late COVID-19 positive test result. These are the rules on that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KeLLy1278 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 GO BILLS GO!!! THAT’S ALL 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 37 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Well, if I'm correct, it's interesting because it has us going into the game with 3 DL which is unusual given McD "I must rotate my DL!" philosophy Last week, as you note, we elevated Brandin Bryant when Lotulelei went out, although he wasn't active in the game. Just seems odd we wouldn't want to go into the game with 4 DL. Especially against this OL and RB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 (edited) People have PTSD from the Jax game. The Colts have no business beating the Bills and their defense. In fact, I don't think they score more than 17 points. Wentz is average and this isn't the pourous Run defense of the past. I'm pretty darn confident. I think Colts will make it interesting at first, but Buffalo will cruise in the 2nd half. 31-17 Buffalo ! Edited November 21, 2021 by ChronicAndKnuckles 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 16 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: People have PTSD from the Jax game. The Colts have no business beating the Bills and their defense. In fact, I don't think they score more than 17 points. Wentz is average and this isn't the pourous Run defense of the past. I'm pretty darn confident. I think Colts will make it interesting at first, but Buffalo will cruise in the 2nd half. 31-17 Buffalo ! It’s crazy isn’t it?? Lose to Jacksonville and all of a sudden people are saying they would be surprised if the Bills even beat the Jets and I have also been reading people say all week that several Bills will need to play the games of their lives to barely beat the Colts-it’s madness, madness I tell you!!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 31 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: People have PTSD from the Jax game. My PTSD is from the Tennessee game, actually, but I suppose since they're now leading the AFC by 2 games, they might be a better team than I thought at the time we played them. OK, yeah, the Jax game added to the pile. 31 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: The Colts have no business beating the Bills and their defense. In fact, I don't think they score more than 17 points. Wentz is average and this isn't the pourous Run defense of the past. I'm pretty darn confident. I think Colts will make it interesting at first, but Buffalo will cruise in the 2nd half. 31-17 Buffalo ! I hope you're right 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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