hondo in seattle Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, skibum said: Trubisky is a great insurance policy, and there is nobody else on the roster to fill that role. They would need to get Fitz in return, and I can't see Beane making a trade without improving the team for this year's playoff run, so any deal would also have to bring another player back to Buffalo. Preferably an interior OL. Why would he trade Trubisky for a pick unless they were out of the playoff mix? If anything, Beane should be sending picks with Trubisky to get a nice return for this year's playoff run. I'm thinking Mitch plus a day 3 pick for Fitz plus a Guard. Yep. I'd like to believe we're building a dynasty. But we've never even once won a Super Bowl. So if there's a chance this year to make a run, we need to do it. In other words, if anything, we should look to gain assets, not lose them. Trubisky may never play a down for the Bills. But, man o' man, it would suck if our run this year was torpedoed by an Allen injury and we didn't have a viable backup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 15 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: That's a "season lost" IMO. Superbowl or bust this year. True Allen would have to come back for the playoffs. I meant the Bills would be OK if Trubisky had to play some regular season games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 A 2nd doesn’t even feel like it would be enough for what Trubisky brings to us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 If true, it’s gotta be for a player or players. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Would rather keep Mitch. However WFT has a pot of pass rushers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 34 minutes ago, foreboding said: We need OL help. What do they have? Schweitzer is 11th ranked RG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 The ultimate buzz kill for anyone wanting a blockbuster deadline deal would be getting a 5th round pick for Trubisky. It would be the opposite of Viagra. It would be what emergency rooms give people with erections lasting more than 4 hours. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 (edited) I don't think we should be trading away assets this year, and I definitely don't want to see Trubisky traded away. We can win a playoff game or two with Trubisky under center IMO -- obviously he's a big step down from Allen, but I wouldn't mind our chances if we had to start him in a WC against the Browns or somesuch. Unless we're just completely bending Washington over -- and this is Dan Snyder we're talking about so it's not like that's out of the question or anything -- don't do it. Edited November 2, 2021 by BillsFanSD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanThru-N-Thru Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 seriously though I'd trade Mitch for a mid-round pick and Tim Settle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 9 minutes ago, WhoTom said: A healthy Fitz, yeah, but at this point, nobody knows when he'll be cleared to play. https://www.nfl.com/news/washington-qb-taylor-heinicke-to-remain-starter-with-ryan-fitzpatrick-hip-still- We can afford to wait on Fitz to get healthy, if we get the OG we so desperately need. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 I figured the Saints and Panthers might inquire too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 16 minutes ago, without a drought said: They should get a comp pick after he signs somewhere else for next season, so they probably get a 3rd if he stays. Hard to imagine a trade being worth it for little overall return and having no insurance against a Josh injury. Probably not a comp pick. We usually pick up several high quality FA, who want to come here and work on short term, not super expensive contracts. We would have to "neutralie" or counterweight all those before they would think about a comp pick for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 44 minutes ago, aristocrat said: We send them Mitch. They take on all of Brandon Scherffs contract and we have an all pro guard. Make it so. It has to be a deal for a player that will help THIS season. Don’t trade Mitch for a worthless 4th or 5th round pick 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 minute ago, JohnNord said: It has to be a deal for a player that will help THIS season. Don’t trade Mitch for a worthless 4th or 5th round pick I forgot Fitzy was on their team as well. He'd be a perfect backup as well. Mitch for Scherff and Fitzy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 19 minutes ago, without a drought said: They should get a comp pick after he signs somewhere else for next season, so they probably get a 3rd if he stays. Hard to imagine a trade being worth it for little overall return and having no insurance against a Josh injury. It’s not certain but definitely possible, considering that the Bills won’t have as much cap space to sign FA’s. Pretty sure this was part of the reason why Beane’ signed him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Schweitzer is under contract through 2022 with a $6MM cap hit next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 17 minutes ago, tomur67 said: i love to have Antonio Gibson as a Bill. Id be ok with a Scherff Gibson package. We trade Mitch and Singletary for Scherff and Gibson. Make it so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Mitch and Mario for Chase Young & Brandon Scherff. Sounds fair to me. 😈 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 This actually makes a ton of sense all the way around. And I’m sure Mitch is tired of holding a clipboard. He got his reset. An extra 2-3 months of being a backup probably overkill for him. I’m sure he’s ready to ball again and there’s a fair amount of teams who’d play him the rest of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 minute ago, clayboy54 said: Mitch and Mario for Chase Young & Brandon Scherff. Sounds fair to me. 😈 Even if we had to throw in our 1st, I’d do this trade in a heart beat. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Obviously if they are even entertaining trading Mitch than our 3rd or 4th sting QB must be showing improvement in practice or on the PS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 If you get Heineke back, I would do it. Heineke is a better than average back up. I just don't understand the rumor though, Washington is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Just now, Back2Buff said: If you get Heineke back, I would do it. Heineke is a better than average back up. I just don't understand the rumor though, Washington is done. They get Trubisky in for a half of the season to see if he can be their #1 next year. The draft is incredibly weak at QB, and RIvera's 3rd year is coming up. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Just now, thenorthremembers said: They get Trubisky in for a half of the season to see if he can be their #1 next year. The draft is incredibly weak at QB, and RIvera's 3rd year is coming up. Trubisky is a FA and can take any offer out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Just now, Back2Buff said: Trubisky is a FA and can take any offer out there. You think if he goes to Washington, plays half a season for them and gets an offer to stay on as the starter, he leaves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBoots8 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 I know we need help on the oline, and while Trubisky may never even play significant time with us I have a weird feeling about potentially trading him away. I feel like (God forbid) he can play well enough to win some games short term if we should need him to. I hope he never has to, but I feel much better about him being here than not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1st and and 3rd and he’s all yours. You get him at a great deal $$$. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Just now, KingBoots8 said: I know we need help on the oline, and while Trubisky may never even play significant time with us I have a weird feeling about potentially trading him away. I feel like (God forbid) he can play well enough to win some games short term if we should need him to. I hope he never has to, but I feel much better about him being here than not If Josh is hurt, we are done. I’d rather have an all pro Guard protecting him than a backup QB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 I wonder if it’s Webb or Fromm who will be elevated from the PS to be Allen’s backup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 He's valuable insurance, but if the offer is a 4th round pick it starts to become enticing. For a 5th, I'm not sure Beane would do it. A 4th rounder with. Condition to buy up to a 3rd rounder becomes all the more enticing. Great asset management, if Beane is able to turn a great, low cost FA signing into a valuable mid round pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 52 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: If Allen goes down season is scrapped anyways, so go for it. Don't want to see a trade for futures, need immediate help on the O-line or RB. Not with this d and a Mitch type qb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 I said at beginning of year he would go for a 2nd at deadline so this would not surprise me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: You think if he goes to Washington, plays half a season for them and gets an offer to stay on as the starter, he leaves? Ya, if he has a better option out there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullim4 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 I think you make this move if it involves OL help. Your choice is between is a stronger OL with Allen and a weak backup QB, or a questionable OL with Allen and Trubisky. Even if Allen gets injured, in that later scenario, Mitch is stuck behind a couple turnstiles masquerading as guards. I think our chances of advancing in the playoffs take a sharper dropoff with Trubisky/weak OL versus Webb/better OL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Mitch has not had to do a lot for Chicago and Nagy to look like a clown org this year. Plenty of teams would be willing to kick the tires.... but really nice to have the Mitch security blanket - especially with Allen taking the hits he is on designed runs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 I'm fine with trading Trubisky, I honestly don't think he's all that good. Better than anyone else we have though. It's worth it if we can get Scherff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: Ya, if he has a better option out there. Gotta disagree with you here. If you spend a half a year in an offense, are already in the building and they want to pay you to be the starter I think you re-up immediately. Good options usually already have starting Quarterbacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 12 minutes ago, Estro said: He's valuable insurance, but if the offer is a 4th round pick it starts to become enticing. For a 5th, I'm not sure Beane would do it. A 4th rounder with. Condition to buy up to a 3rd rounder becomes all the more enticing. Great asset management, if Beane is able to turn a great, low cost FA signing into a valuable mid round pick. I definitely wouldn’t. The Bills have a great chance to contend this season. You only get so many chances and can’t expect to be in a better position next season. Who knows what could happen. A conditional 3rd round pick doesn’t help the team this season…it only hurts it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBoots8 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Just now, BuffaloRebound said: If Josh is hurt, we are done. I’d rather have an all pro Guard protecting him than a backup QB But if Josh has a stinger and is only out a few weeks we are not done- that’s the contingency I am referring to. It may jeopardize #1 seed but Mitch is talented enough to win. Can he pull a “Foles” and win it all? Who knows… I hope we never have to find out but i would rather have the best option available in an emergency. if we can get an absolutely key piece that is lock down for a few years then we do what we have to, but Mitch gives us the best chance to win vs any other backup in the NFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 You don't trade Trubisky for anything other than an impact player this year or a 1st or 2nd rounder. Period. 7 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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