Trade deadline buzz

[Doc]

2 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

I will be paying attention to teams inactive players today 

 

Eh.  Ertz played and was traded the following day.

[y2zipper]

Yeah no one's selling at the NFL Deadline. Too early in the year unless you're a bad team that has no good players.

 

 

[buffalochips]

trade for an OL player now!

[Coach Tuesday]

Some interesting names suggested here:

 

Michael Gallup - in last year of his deal

 

Christian Kirk - seems unlikely they’d move him but they did just draft Moore

 

Josh Andrews - decent guard on a one-year deal 

 

[strive_for_five_guy]

Maybe I missed some earlier discussion it, but would anyone have interest in Evan Engram?  He’s had injury issues, but could add a different dimension to the offense at a potentially low asking price.

[Seoulofstone]

My trade would be Daryll Williams and Gabe Davis for Allen Robinson.

 

 The Bears are going nowhere and aren't set up to use him properly. What they could use is an OT and young WR. Of course Nagy and Pace wouldn't bite because their asses are on the line.

Edited October 27, 2021 by Seoulofstone

[appoo]

8 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

Maybe I missed some earlier discussion it, but would anyone have interest in Evan Engram?  He’s had injury issues, but could add a different dimension to the offense at a potentially low asking price.

Not sure the Bills offense could make use of both he and Knox along with the various WRs. With the schedule the Bills have, just easy to wait on Knox to get healthy.

 

If they are going to trade for someone, I'd rather it be an impact RB. 

[Don Otreply]

On 10/24/2021 at 11:12 AM, LABILLBACKER said:

Our 3 biggest needs are OL, TE & RB.  I would try to trade Addison or Singletary and include a pick. We need a better compliment to Knox than Sweeney. 

As to the TE thing, How do we actually know that we need a better compliment to Knox than Sweeney? being that Sweeney has barely been used, but when used has been effective. Sweeney can block and has good hands.
 

We are a WRs centric passing offense, we don’t use two TE sets as a passing threat with any frequency, never have with our current HC / OC combination, not that we couldn’t at least give it a go now and then…, 😁
 

Go Bills!!!

[dbfla10]

People talk trades in the NFL but when was the last time a player was traded at the deadline and really helped the team propel into the super bowl?     Football is a different sport, you need to understand the scheme and good coaches need to adjust to feel how said player is going to help the team.... Stay put, make trades in the offseason

 

[H2o]

1 hour ago, dbfla10 said:

People talk trades in the NFL but when was the last time a player was traded at the deadline and really helped the team propel into the super bowl?     Football is a different sport, you need to understand the scheme and good coaches need to adjust to feel how said player is going to help the team.... Stay put, make trades in the offseason

 

This year when Saquon Barkley gets traded to the Bills.

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Royale with Cheese]

You cannot trade Hughes....

[Patrick Duffy]

Would not surprise me if Bills don't trade for anyone. 

[ngbills]

Addison for Engram/Hurst or Norwell/Hernandez or Sanders.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

2 hours ago, Don Otreply said:

As to the TE thing, How do we actually know that we need a better compliment to Knox than Sweeney? being that Sweeney has barely been used, but when used has been effective. Sweeney can block and has good hands.
 

We are a WRs centric passing offense, we don’t use two TE sets as a passing threat with any frequency, never have with our current HC / OC combination, not that we couldn’t at least give it a go now and then…, 😁
 

Go Bills!!!

Agreed. Number 2 TE could possibly be the least of our needs right now. 

[Blank Stare]

3 hours ago, Seoulofstone said:

My trade would be Daryll Williams and Gabe Davis for Allen Robinson.

 

 The Bears are going nowhere and aren't set up to use him properly. What they could use is an OT and young WR. Of course Nagy and Pace wouldn't bite because their asses are on the line.

I appreciate the creativity, but I could not disagree with this trade more strongly. We’d be weakening our already shaky oline for what may amount to a marginal upgrade at receiver, if at all. There’s only one ball to go around. Gabe Davis is fine. We need our guy upright to deliver the ball. Trading Williams doesn’t work toward that. 

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

I’d love to unload Addison, but I cant see them doing it. They love him for whatever reason. Not trying to dump on him. Seems like a good locker room guy, but I’d like to see more snaps for our young cats the rest of the way. 

Edited October 27, 2021 by TheProcess

[appoo]

Addison is useful as a pass rusher. Not because he's super effective, but effectiveness to eat snaps and save legs of other players. 

 

Honestly unless it's someone like Saquon I'm passing on a trade. This is a passing football team, and getting a premier run guard who doesn't pass block as well as Williams, hurts the team more than helps. 

Edited October 27, 2021 by appoo

[BillsShredder83]

2 hours ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

Would not surprise me if Bills don't trade for anyone. 

Would surprise me if we did. Other than Kelvin B I can't think of any in season trades he made?

I would really love a move for a guard though. Long season, plenty of time to get him acclimated b4 a playoff run

[ngbills]

17 minutes ago, appoo said:

Addison is useful as a pass rusher. Not because he's super effective, but effectiveness to eat snaps and save legs of other players. 

 

Honestly unless it's someone like Saquon I'm passing on a trade. This is a passing football team, and getting a premier run guard who doesn't pass block as well as Williams, hurts the team more than helps. 

If we traded Addison we still not dress AJE or Basham. I really dont see a huge drop from Addison to either of those guys. 

[appoo]

19 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Would surprise me if we did. Other than Kelvin B I can't think of any in season trades he made?

I would really love a move for a guard though. Long season, plenty of time to get him acclimated b4 a playoff run

He want hard after Stefon Diggs and I think he dumped Marcel Dareus at the trade dealine

[YoloinOhio]

22 minutes ago, appoo said:

He want hard after Stefon Diggs and I think he dumped Marcel Dareus at the trade dealine

Also went hard after Emmanuel Sanders in 2019 and Denver wouldn’t trade him in conference (plus Denver played buffalo in a couple weeks)

 

the dareus trade went down 4 years ago today 

Edited October 27, 2021 by YoloinOhio

[DCbillsfan]

11 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

the dareus trade went down 4 years ago today 

Beane had previously traded away Watkins and Darby, but trading Dareus and getting his contract of the books was the real beginning of the turnaround.

[Patrick Duffy]

55 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Would surprise me if we did. Other than Kelvin B I can't think of any in season trades he made?

I would really love a move for a guard though. Long season, plenty of time to get him acclimated b4 a playoff run

Lol, that's same thing I said. Wouldn't surprise me if Bills don't make a single trade that brings another player to the roster. I think it's more a chance if anything is done that Bills trade a current player away than over bringing a new one in. Never know though, just my guess anyway

[Coffeesforclosers]

17 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Also went hard after Emmanuel Sanders in 2019 and Denver wouldn’t trade him in conference (plus Denver played buffalo in a couple weeks)

 

the dareus trade went down 4 years ago today 

 

I looked him up thanks to your post! Marcel Dareus is out of football right now.  Which is a shame for a guy that's a two time pro bowler, 1 time 1st Team All Pro.  Wonder what he did.

[Mat68]

Buffalo has poked around Engram for 3 years now it feels like.  I could see Beane going after him for a mid rd pick.  I also would not dismiss Brandin Cooks.  Instant deep threat.  Buffalocan platoon the Wrs like they do the Dline.  Idk.  I think if ever there was a year to swing big its this year right?

[rayray808]

Saquon is the play... be patient my friends

[billrooter]

40 minutes ago, Coffeesforclosers said:

 

I looked him up thanks to your post! Marcel Dareus is out of football right now.  Which is a shame for a guy that's a two time pro bowler, 1 time 1st Team All Pro.  Wonder what he did.

He got lazy

[BADOLBILZ]

44 minutes ago, DCbillsfan said:

Beane had previously traded away Watkins and Darby, but trading Dareus and getting his contract of the books was the real beginning of the turnaround.

 

Nah.  It was the end of them possibly having an extended playoff run like Jacksonville did that season though.   They were 4-2 and playing dominating defense when they dealt Dareus......they were 5-5 the rest of the way and experienced their worst 3 game defensive stretch in franchise history.    Dareus went to Jax and the Jaguars run defense flipped from bottom of the league to the top........he put up 2 sacks and 4 TFL in their run to the AFCCG.   He wasn't a long term fit for McDermott's culture but they don't make the playoffs in 2017 without his contributions early in that season.   He was playing tremendous as the DT1T.       

42 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

Buffalo has poked around Engram for 3 years now it feels like.  I could see Beane going after him for a mid rd pick.  I also would not dismiss Brandin Cooks.  Instant deep threat.  Buffalocan platoon the Wrs like they do the Dline.  Idk.  I think if ever there was a year to swing big its this year right?

 

 

I thought they might be interested in Cooks if things boiled over with Beasley and they had to make a move with him............but seems like Beas got his sh*t under control.   We will see if he gets back to social media bickering with the world after the deadline though.  

[Coach Tuesday]

22 minutes ago, rayray808 said:

Saquon is the play... be patient my friends

How you haven’t been banned by now is quite a feat.  You’ve done this crap for years.

[MAJBobby]

I would hope Bills would be all over this of it happened. 

[Patrick Duffy]

9 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

Nah.  It was the end of them possibly having an extended playoff run like Jacksonville did that season though.   They were 4-2 and playing dominating defense when they dealt Dareus......they were 5-5 the rest of the way and experienced their worst 3 game defensive stretch in franchise history.    Dareus went to Jax and the Jaguars run defense flipped from bottom of the league to the top........he put up 2 sacks and 4 TFL in their run to the AFCCG.   He wasn't a long term fit for McDermott's culture but they don't make the playoffs in 2017 without his contributions early in that season.   He was playing tremendous as the DT1T.

He may have made some kind of an impact improving Jags D back then, but I'm not sure if I'd say only reason they made post season was because of Dareus alone. Anyway, not all that important regardless, but just wanted to point out that he didn't do much after that if I remember correctly. So all in all seemed like the right move for Beane parting ways.

[BADOLBILZ]

9 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

I would hope Bills would be all over this of it happened. 

 

 

Like I said,  I've discussed flipping him for Beasley when he was losing his sh*t on social........Beas is from Texas and is on a cheaper contract next year so that might appeal to Houston.......and maybe throw in a late pick to sweeten it.    But if you don't clear playing time I'm not sure where Cooks gets the snaps and I get the feeling that he would not be happy being a reserve and knowing he would be dumped into free agency with bad stats after the season.    So you probably gotta' clear snaps for him to keep him happy.    

[Patrick Duffy]

1 minute ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Like I said,  I've discussed flipping him for Beasley when he was losing his sh*t on social........Beas is from Texas and is on a cheaper contract next year so that might appeal to Houston.......and maybe throw in a late pick to sweeten it.    But if you don't clear playing time I'm not sure where Cooks gets the snaps and I get the feeling that he would not be happy being a reserve and knowing he would be dumped into free agency with bad stats after the season.    So you probably gotta' clear snaps for him to keep him happy.    

Although I'd prefer Beasley, but if that scenario did happen I wouldn't be too disappointed. I feel like Beasley may have possibly got the hint finally since his Tweeterbookspace has been deleted. Hopefully he finally moves on and gets back on track. Had a good game against Titans and was great to see. Hope it continues...

 

I just think he is the better slot WR for the Bills and Josh being familiar with each other.

[Doc]

24 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

Nah.  It was the end of them possibly having an extended playoff run like Jacksonville did that season though.   They were 4-2 and playing dominating defense when they dealt Dareus......they were 5-5 the rest of the way and experienced their worst 3 game defensive stretch in franchise history.    Dareus went to Jax and the Jaguars run defense flipped from bottom of the league to the top........he put up 2 sacks and 4 TFL in their run to the AFCCG.   He wasn't a long term fit for McDermott's culture but they don't make the playoffs in 2017 without his contributions early in that season.   He was playing tremendous as the DT1T.      

 

Meh.  They were actually 3-2 with him (he was inactive for the Denver game), beat two 5-11 teams and in the Falcons (10-6) win, the defense allowed 147 yards rushing, and Marcel didn't register a single defensive statistic.  The defense might have suffered a little after he was traded, but the team gained immensely from shipping him out. 

 

And as an aside, I hope we're witnessing the same thing happening with the Sabres.

[Patrick Duffy]

1 minute ago, Doc said:

 

Meh.  They were actually 3-2 with him (he was inactive for the Denver game), beat two 5-11 teams and in the Falcons (10-6) win, the defense allowed 147 yards rushing, and Marcel didn't register a single defensive statistic.  The defense might have suffered a little after he was traded, but the team gained immensely from shipping him out. 

Yeah that's about how i remember it. After going to Jags he made a couple plays here and there and possibly did help that DL to a certain extent. However I wouldn't go as far to say he was reason they went to playoffs. imo he was certainly wasn't anything to brag about that very short stint as a Jag lol

[DCbillsfan]

46 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Nah.  It was the end of them possibly having an extended playoff run like Jacksonville did that season though.   They were 4-2 and playing dominating defense when they dealt Dareus......they were 5-5 the rest of the way and experienced their worst 3 game defensive stretch in franchise history.    Dareus went to Jax and the Jaguars run defense flipped from bottom of the league to the top........he put up 2 sacks and 4 TFL in their run to the AFCCG.   He wasn't a long term fit for McDermott's culture but they don't make the playoffs in 2017 without his contributions early in that season.   He was playing tremendous as the DT1T.       

 

Are you saying trading Dareus was a mistake?

[CNYfan]

I think that, if a trade is made, it should be from the D-Line.  And for a CB or a draft pick.  When we have two good D-Linemen inactive each week it seems like a bit of an inefficient use of resources.   Not sure who would go, but if the price is right, there could be some wiggle room there.  

I do not expect a trade, but could see that as a way to build draft capital, to move around next year.  

[billsfan89]

12 minutes ago, DCbillsfan said:

Are you saying trading Dareus was a mistake?

 

Trading him in season did set back the run defense in 2017, but long term it made sense to dump him. 

[HappyDays]

1 hour ago, MAJBobby said:

I would hope Bills would be all over this of it happened. 

 

WR is the last thing we need. Does he take snaps from Sanders?

[Coach Tuesday]

1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

 

WR is the last thing we need. Does he take snaps from Sanders?

WR is definitely a need.