Blainorama5 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Could Ertz play the opposite side of the ball? 🤔😇 You are TRULY a diehard!! 👍 But sadly, the answer is No. 🙁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: There you are, our resident weather vane pointing in the exact wrong direction at all times. Star’s opt out last year froze his salary and limited their flexibility. He sat out and didn’t even get vaccinated! Now he’s back but has a soft tissue boo boo and is once again clogging up space - under the salary cap, not on the field. On a per-dollar basis no one has been worse for the Bills than Star over the past three years. No one. He has to be frustrating McDermott 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Seoulofstone Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Star improves the team. I get annoyed when people compare him to Vea. It's like comparing Oliver to Donald. Boohoo. Stop crying, support your team. What I will say is that he hasn't been a dependable guy. It does annoy me that he opted out then didn't get vaccinated. It does annoy me that McD and Beane have more loyalty for former players than they should. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Good thing we kept Phillips. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metbill Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 So the guy has basically a year and a half to prepare for this game and he misses it for a calf injury? He is soft and doughy unless it is a full tear. Great players play hurt. Ready to see this mistake cast off to the curb and move on with a quality NT. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Just now, Seoulofstone said: Star improves the team. I get annoyed when people compare him to Vea. It's like comparing Oliver to Donald. Boohoo. Stop crying, support your team. What I will say is that he hasn't been a dependable guy. It does annoy me that he opted out then didn't get vaccinated. It does annoy me that McD and Beane have more loyalty for former players than they should. IMO, you cant count COVID year as him not being dependable. He made a health/business decision, that was what it was. He is missing his first ever game as a Bill on Sunday. otherwise he has started in every game that hes been on the roster. That is THE DEFINITION of dependable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Edmunds better bring his Chris Kelsay lunch bucket to work on Sunday because he is going to be busy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: There you are, our resident weather vane pointing in the exact wrong direction at all times. Star’s opt out last year froze his salary and limited their flexibility. He sat out and didn’t even get vaccinated! Now he’s back but has a soft tissue boo boo and is once again clogging up space - under the salary cap, not on the field. On a per-dollar basis no one has been worse for the Bills than Star over the past three years. No one. The soft tissue boo boo made me laugh out loud 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Bette start najee Harris in fantasy lol 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 51 minutes ago, BuffaninSarasota said: welcome to Star's replacement https://georgiadogs.com/sports/football/roster/jordan-davis/5423 The dude is a beast. No way he's there at pick 32. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: He has to be frustrating McDermott At least him not playing means he's less likely to retire at halftime 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Just now, ProcessAccepted said: The dude is a beast. No way he's there at pick 32. Yes, we'll have to trade up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 52 minutes ago, HOUSE said: He took a real beating at home...you know...cutting the lawn, cleaning the garage..etc . He must be exhausted from his last played game 2 years ago. Never fails, once most players get paid, their level of motivation and production drops. You can set your watch to it. Draft a DT early next year. 5 minutes ago, Beast said: Edmunds better bring his Chris Kelsay lunch bucket to work on Sunday because he is going to be busy. Busy getting drowned in the wash. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulofstone Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: IMO, you cant count COVID year as him not being dependable. He made a health/business decision, that was what it was. He is missing his first ever game as a Bill on Sunday. otherwise he has started in every game that hes been on the roster. That is THE DEFINITION of dependable. I like Star. I remember him making a stop on fourth and short in the playoffs against the Texans. The issue I have is that after taking the year off (a year when he.could have made a difference), he gives the lie to that by not getting vaccinated. That doesn't engender sympathy from anyone. Either play or retire. He skips voluntary workouts, is conspicuous by his absence, barely plays in preseason. Now misses the first game. The Bills have a lot invested in him and his absence creates a domino effect on what other players responsibilities are on the DLine. As far as what he did two years ago well that's what it is. On the one hand he doesn't get enough credit but on the other he is highly paid for his position so it's reasonable to have expectations. But he needs to show up this year. I don't have time for giving him a free pass. Edited September 10, 2021 by Seoulofstone 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Seoulofstone said: I like Star. I remember him making a stop on fourth and short in the playoffs against the Texans. The issue I have is that after taking the year off (a year when he.could have made a difference), he gives the lie to that by not getting vaccinated. That doesn't engender sympathy from anyone. Either play or retire. The Bills have a lot invested in him and his absence creates a domino effect on what other players responsibilities are on the DLine. As far as what he did two years ago well that's what it is. On the one hand he doesn't get enough credit but on the other he is highly paid for his position so it's reasonable to have expectations. But he needs to show up this year. I don't have time for giving him a free pass. I don't see his vaccination status being related to taking a year off due to the uncertainty surrounding COVID. It is possible to not want to catch covid but also not being sold on the effects of the vaccine. Also, "Catching covid" was not the only reason for players sitting last year out. Edited September 10, 2021 by PaattMaann 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, BuffaninSarasota said: welcome to Star's replacement https://georgiadogs.com/sports/football/roster/jordan-davis/5423 Would love it, but doubtful he is still there at #32. If the rest of his season goes like last Saturday, he could be top-10. Edited September 10, 2021 by DrDawkinstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: Tremaine Edmunds and the Bills need a Vita Vea. I would’ve targeted Quinton Bohanna late in last years draft. There’s Jordan Davis and Travis Jones in upcoming draft though I really liked Alim McNeill out NC State last year grrrrrrrrr. LOL mind as well go get our fat IDL next year Edited September 10, 2021 by BillsShredder83 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 This is terrible news. Now we have to wait longer to see that his return will provide little to no impact. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulofstone Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: I don't see his vaccination status being related to taking a year off due to the uncertainty surrounding COVID. It is possible to not want to catch covid but also not being sold on the effects of the vaccine. Also, "Catching covid" was not the only reason for players sitting last year out. That's fine. I'm really not interested in making this a covid discussion. How about this. He takes up a lot of cap space for a 1 tech and plays in the center of the trenches. His absence whatever the reason wasn't planned for and has repurcussions. He isn't liked by the fanbase. This will be the 20th consecutive game he has been absent. Not blame laying. But he needs to get himself right and be on the field. I hope he does. Edited September 10, 2021 by Seoulofstone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 22 minutes ago, Sharky7337 said: Bette start najee Harris in fantasy lol I was upset when he slid to me. I cant bench the dude week 1, and i normally sit dudes playing against buffalo so i can enjoy my game normally lol i dont like when i catch myself mentally cheating on my team! even when its a "well if someone had to score atleast it was _______". fantasy football ho 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Going to have to man up I guess. Go Bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Seoulofstone said: That's fine. I'm really not interested in making this a covid discussion. How about this. He takes up a lot of cap space for a 1 tech and plays in the center of the trenches. His absence whatever the reason wasn't planned for and has repurcussions. He isn't liked by the fanbase. This will be the 20th consecutive game he has been absent. Not blame laying. But he needs to get himself right and be on the field. I hope he does. Agreed, Im not interested in that either. Thats why I originally just said "it is what it is" and pointed out that he has never missed a game as a Bill until Sunday. Star isnt even a top 30 paid DT in the NFL. In fact, Vernon Butler makes more money than he does this season. He is a workhorse of a DT who eats up blockers and frees up his fellow linemen and linebackers to make plays, as that is his role in McD's defense. The hate this dude gets by some of our fan base (NOT everyone as you say above) is shameful. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 I would rather they give him the extra week of rest. I am sort of hoping they do the same thing with Emmanuel Sanders. Lower leg injuries tend to linger for a while. It's week 1 of a 17 game season. Make sure they're good to go for the long haul. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: Agreed, Im not interested in that either. Thats why I originally just said "it is what it is" and pointed out that he has never missed a game as a Bill until Sunday. Star isnt even a top 30 paid DT in the NFL. In fact, Vernon Butler makes more money than he does this season. He is a workhorse of a DT who eats up blockers and frees up his fellow linemen and linebackers to make plays, as that is his role in McD's defense. The hate this dude gets by some of our fan base (NOT everyone as you say above) is shameful. Lol “workhorse.” Sure, a workhorse who never shows up to work. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Just now, Coach Tuesday said: Lol “workhorse.” Sure, a workhorse who never shows up to work. except that he never missed a day of work until two days from now. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 1 hour ago, jletha said: So many of us were hoping (maybe too much) for this guys return to free up Oliver and Edmunds and others to play more to their strengths. I was always worried when "We get Star back..." was always such a key feature for how we were going to improve our run D because he hadnt played in a year. And now here we are... According to the depth chart, they've decided that Zimmer can play 1TDT. I don't think Oliver is going to be asked to play 1TDT this season. The guy who is going to be put out of position again (if any) is Butler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadstroke Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 1 hour ago, RyanC883 said: that plan, however, is mere hope. Would have liked an actual player who is ready for the position Day 1, not someone who has to beef up. He said that he had "beefed up" not that he had to beef up. Reading comprehension problems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 1 hour ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Hopefully we’ll be up so far and so fast, the Steelers run game becomes an afterthought and our new hires just get to tee off on Ben. That's be great, but I think it's just as likely that Butler and Tomlin have something cooked up for us that it takes us some time to work out I'm actually more concerned about the lack of Sanders and what's going on with a foot injury that has apparently hampered him all through preseason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 McBeane is definitely not without flaws. Relying on Star as a solution to a major hole we had at DT was a very poor decision, IMO. DT and CB depth was a major issue last season, it's really hard to be understand why they did nothing to address it. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 1 hour ago, dorquemada said: I saw the thread and instantly assumed COVID that might be preferable to a calf injury on a fat guy He's been on the injury report all week DNP with a calf. Try to keep up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Were there reports that Sanders reaggravated the foot injury or that it got worse after the Packers game? Because he looked good in that game, which hopefully means it's not a major concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Process said: McBeane is definitely not without flaws. Relying on Star as a solution to a major hole we had at DT was a very poor decision, IMO. DT and CB depth was a major issue last season, it's really hard to be understand why they did nothing to address it. His name is Harrison Phillips. Plus, what were they gonna do, sign another DT and keep 12 dlineman? lol. Edited September 10, 2021 by PaattMaann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoteam Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Lots of assumption on Star. I'll had my assumption. What if its the Bills are telling him to sit out with this injury. He might be wanting to play injured and they are telling him to get 100%. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: That's be great, but I think it's just as likely that Butler and Tomlin have something cooked up for us that it takes us some time to work out I'm actually more concerned about the lack of Sanders and what's going on with a foot injury that has apparently hampered him all through preseason. For me, it’s Matt Canada. He’s an unknown, but his college offenses are a HEAVY misdirection run game. Going to need a lot of eye discipline if his history is any indication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 This is why we can't have nice things. Why does God hate the Bills so much? Ralph is cheap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 1 hour ago, JaCrispy said: After watching Vita Vea last night, Star is even worse of a signing...was likely never going to have very much impact on the team... Ooohhh kaaaayy..... You're comparing two very different players, in different schemes, at different points in their career. How much do you think Vea is going to sign for? Star is like the 25th highest paid DT for average salary. 16 minutes ago, Process said: McBeane is definitely not without flaws. Relying on Star as a solution to a major hole we had at DT was a very poor decision, IMO. DT and CB depth was a major issue last season, it's really hard to be understand why they did nothing to address it. Beane said they considered it, but Wallace's and Jackson's offseason performance convinced them they wouldn't get a better guy off the market at value. Do we really know better? 25 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: According to the depth chart, they've decided that Zimmer can play 1TDT. I don't think Oliver is going to be asked to play 1TDT this season. The guy who is going to be put out of position again (if any) is Butler Zimmer would be out of position their too, but they like his versatility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 1 hour ago, RyanC883 said: the lack of a good backup beyond "hope" is/was annoying. We "hope" Star is back, then "hope" he is impactful. Same for Harry. It's not a good plan. Look at a player like Vea on Tampa last night. Even without that guys athletic ability to disrupt the pass, he makes a huge impact in run D. We have nothing like that. So what are you saying? When we had the draft resources together to get up into the top half of the first round in 2018, do you we should have taken Vita Vea instead of Josh Allen, kind of like Cleveland drafting Myles Garrett in 2017 when Patrick Mahomes and Desean Watson (heck even Mitch Trubisky) were available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 15 minutes ago, Process said: Were there reports that Sanders reaggravated the foot injury or that it got worse after the Packers game? Because he looked good in that game, which hopefully means it's not a major concern. He looked good in that game but he only played a few snaps - <20% I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 20 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: His name is Harrison Phillips. Plus, what were they gonna do, sign another DT and keep 12 dlineman? lol. I suspect they planned to cut Star last offseason (or at least force a paycut) but then he opted out and screwed that plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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