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So many reporters, analysts, and talking heads picking the Bills to win the Super Bowl. What changed?


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3 hours ago, Billsflyer12 said:

Many of ESPN guys not so high.  Stephen A didn’t even have us in top 5, but he had Patriots there.  Get Up guys when asked if it’s not KC then who,  all on that panel picked the Browns.  I really don’t mind as I prefer to be under radar.

Surprised Stephen A didn't list the Knicks.

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1 minute ago, Gene1973 said:

Hmm, not sure NFL players and coaches need media to show them how good their next opponent is.

You'd be surprised how many players know what the ex-players say about them on 24/7 NFL news cycles. These shows help form public opinions with fans. Endorsements come from the public's jersey consumption and social media involvement. 

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The return of nearly our entire offense from last season, and with upgrades at WR.  

 

The upgrade of our pass rush during the draft.  

 

Prediction of a better offense, plus better defense=SB contenders.  

 

I still think Tampa is the team to beat, but I think we will wind up in the SB against them.  

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10 hours ago, billybrew1 said:

I think we're the trendy pick because reporters don't want to pick the obvious teams in Tampa and KC. So the big risk takers go all the way down to three, LOL!

 

However, here's a list of things that has changed.....

 

- This team was very new last season. So now, we have a second year together, both players and coaches, and a lot of young players too, to get much better. Both individually and together. I think this is pretty big.

- Emmanuel Sanders healthy and ready to go! He's a legit excellent #2 and another great weapon for Josh. Our four-wide package might be the best offense in the NFL right now.

- Cody Ford. Should the big guard finally find his game he could really help the run game and solidify the passing game.

- Josh Allen - He's definitely still maturing in all facets. That is, He's still getting better.

- The run game. Brian Daboll's whole offseason last season was to create a Star in Josh Allen. That took ALL his time last season. He worked only on pass blocking. He worked only on passing routes and passing plays. The run game fell to the way-side. Now, with a offseason to digest and a full spring and summer to work on everything together, the run game should be better.

- Our 23 year old RB is a man! And his coaches, both Leslie Frazier and Sean McDermott say it is time for him (and teammate Ed Oliver ) to make splash plays. I'm hoping the D is also more aggressive this year and that both players have more freedom to attack.

- Our coaches are maturing together. It wasn't that long ago that Sean McDermott was a rookie HC. He wasn't kidding then that there was a lot for him to learn. I also think he has (had?) a problem playing chefs HC and his former boss Andy Reid giving him far too much respect. It's time Sean beats him. This is also Brian Daboll's first successful attempt at  being an NFL OC and I'm certain he is learning in the playoffs. The whole team is learning about winning in the playoffs and what it is going to take. This is very real and what usually happens with young teams growing up.

- Lastly, we have really improved the DL over the last two years. AJ is in a way better position to help the Bills now going through his first real training camp. Efe Obada was signed and is going to help sooner or later. Great depth is a must for Super Bowl teams. This year, two more DEs were added and they both look good. Groot looks especially good and has what we need. Pure skill at pass rushing. All 8 of our DL is going to see equal time and it is a better 8 this year.

 

Did I miss anything?

 

Go Bills!

 

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    You hit alot of points but I'm certain there are some others including one I'll add that I think is overlooked but Josh Allen is a positive posterboy for the league.  He comes across as a hard working regular guy who loves to play, wants to win,  and while he's competitive it sure seems like he's got alot of friends across the league. 

 

      He gets recognition amongst his peers that says alot and any alert nfl press should pick up on that.  I'm sure the ratings for Bills games may even reflect the popular appeal of Bills games even outside the primetime looks the Bills have shined on.  Who doesn't think Josh gained some fans after he stuffed them for Thanksgiving.

 

     I won't be surprised if Allen starts getting more flags a la Brady as the NFL does seem to be more protective of popular star players.  

 

 

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1 hour ago, ScottLaw said:

Was it though? 
 

 

It def was a reason, but I also think it was more so lack of speed defensively, WRs unable to get separation, and our offensive line got manhandled. Not sure any of that will get better, but Chiefs have a tough schedule, and the Bills schedule doesn’t look to be as tough so I think many pundits think if the Bills can get home field advantage and play the Chiefs at home they can/will beat them.

 

 

Well, unsurprisingly, in my opinion it was indeed. It's a defensible opinion.

 

The teams that kept the KC offense less potent last year all had the same M.O. They pressured him successfully.

 

The WRs "got manhandled" because they were all injured. And the teams that rushed Mahomes well by and large were able to keep their speedy recievers covered for the time it takes to rush well. Just not for three, four, five seconds. He had a ton of time to sit back there against us.

 

It wasn't the only problem we had but yeah, I think it was the worst.

 

And I believe the national media saw those two things and it changed their minds in the preseason. Nobody in the media believed our rookie DEs would pressure well the first year, or that Epenesa would be much better either. Then they saw in the preseason that we were damn good at pressure.

 

And there was some residual doubt that Allen might regress. And they saw last week that he very much didn't. It's not proven he can keep it up, but they saw that he looked like he might have even gotten better.

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What changed?  We went from having generations of garbage QBs to a Top-3 in the league QB, and utterly garbage front offices to one of the better ones in the league.


The overall team talent level is higher now than it's been in 30 years.


That's what changed!

 

EVERYTHING....and the press is making note.

 

 

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This is rocket science, it's because the Bills are finally fielding a good team again and no matter how hard some of the pundits pimp the Chiefs and Mahomes they aren't going to the next 15 superbowls.

 

I'm still concerned with how much national media love this team is getting and McDermott should be a serious COY candidate again if he keeps this team focused and can replicate last years type of success even if it don't end in a SB or championship.

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Though there are some very vocal Buffalo haters, by and large America loves the Bills. Now that they are very good again, people are happy to jump on the bandwagon. The only true Chiefs fans are in Kansas and Missouri, and Tampa Bay without Brady is the definition of meh. Packers are beloved, but they have fallen short too many times lately.

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6 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said:

I agree. I think its sort of silly. But i agree.... they were drooling over this one specific throw on GMFB just yesterday or the day before when allen came up in discussion.

 

I was drooling over that throw before it even hit Davis' hands.

Stuck in 3rd/20 after perfectly executing a Brady-like drive and then he caps it off with that rip?

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4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

What has changed? We used to be consistently mediocre and now we are consistently good, have a top 5 Quarterback, an excellent coaching staff and one of the deepest rosters in the league. 

 

People have started saying we are good because we are good. Nothing odd about that.

It really isn't complicated we've been consistently rated one of the top 4 or 5 teams in the NFL, it's the week of the season starting so people need to make there picks, the Bills are just a more fun pick than the Chiefs, Bucs repeat, and maybe Green Bay though that's the closest.

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What changed 

 

hmmm

 

Rodgers is on a fair well tour?

Tom ain’t getting any younger. 


KC

(1) 3 in a row? Hard enough for the cheating Pats***

(2) An entire new O line

 

Bills

Look at Josh’s drive in the few series of that PS game

2 stud rookies to get pressure on the QB

what makes them think that? 
 

Trust in the Process 

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On 9/9/2021 at 9:30 AM, ScottLaw said:

Was it though? 
 

 

It def was a reason, but I also think it was more so lack of speed defensively, WRs unable to get separation, and our offensive line got manhandled. Not sure any of that will get better, but Chiefs have a tough schedule, and the Bills schedule doesn’t look to be as tough so I think many pundits think if the Bills can get home field advantage and play the Chiefs at home they can/will beat them.

Just an aside…, all of our starting WRs were playing injured, that is a considerable reason that our WRs were not getting separation, Davis and Brown with  Fd up ankles, Beasley with a broken bone in his leg, Diggs with a torn oblique, of course they had trouble getting separation, and that is part of the reason they went with seven wideouts this season, on top of adding two quality D lineman, that and we are not the same team personnel wise or schematically as last season, changes have been made to account for those short comings, you are very pessimistic, I’m not a doctor, but maybe a women, a good meal, a quality cigar and a good single malt scotch might go some way to giving you up a better outlook for this upcoming season,  because that combination seems to work for me, just sayin, 😁👍

 

Go Bills!!!

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21 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

They are a top 3-4 team in the league so long as Josh continues to play like he did last season. This seasons about a SB victory…. Just not sure they’ve closed the KC gap. We’ll see. 

It is my considered opinion…, 😁, that KC will fall off a bit this season, certainly not in a wholesale way, but by enough to matter. 

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On 9/9/2021 at 7:20 AM, hondo in seattle said:

No one wants to predict another Tampa-KC Super Bowl.  Too boring.  Not click worthy.

 

It's far more interesting to talk about up-and-coming teams.  Right now, in the AFC, that's the Bills.  

I agree with this.

 

It was only a few weeks ago that a lot of these "experts" were still questioning Josh Allen & the Bills ability to win "The Big Game"(translation: beat the Chiefs). Wondering if last season were a fluke.

 

Now all of a sudden they are picking the Bills to win the Super Bowl and for Josh Allen to become the leagues MVP.

 

I see @Logic's point.

 

Do these people really think the Bills are the best team in the NFL, or is it just a wild take?

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Listened to a lot of local and national podcasts/shows today and no one picked the Bills to make it to the SB. Greeny picked the pats to win the division and predicted the Titans to get the #1 seed. He had bills as WC. Almost everyone picked the Browns to go to the SB. 
 

I think there is a thought that it is very rare for a team to go to the SB 3 straight years so that is why not a lot of chiefs predictions 

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People want to be trendy more than right. We had an outstanding previous year and it's reasonable to think this team can build on it with it's youth. I still think all roads go through Tampa and KC until proven otherwise, but we are certainly in it. It's sort of a Bulls/Pistons deal. I just don't think you can have us ahead of those teams, specifically KC, until we prove we can get a win against them.    

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1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

Listened to a lot of local and national podcasts/shows today and no one picked the Bills to make it to the SB. Greeny picked the pats to win the division and predicted the Titans to get the #1 seed. He had bills as WC. Almost everyone picked the Browns to go to the SB. 
 

I think there is a thought that it is very rare for a team to go to the SB 3 straight years so that is why not a lot of chiefs predictions 

And they would be correct. Eric mangini brought this up 2 days ago on “first things first” as he was trying to explain his Bills pick to Nick wright as Wright was throwing a typical Chiefs fan temper tantrum when somebody doesn’t automatically crown them as gods gift… He explained why he liked the Bills out of the AFC but then he eloquently went on to explain that it’s not an anti-chiefs pick and more of just a pick that sides with historical evidence….. And Wright proceeded to plug his ears, stomp his feet, and hold his breath like the toddler that he is. 

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On 9/8/2021 at 8:44 PM, Logic said:

I've noticed over the past week or so that more and more local and national reporters, analysts, and talking heads are picking the Bills to win the Super Bowl. Many are also picking Josh Allen to win the MVP award.

Whereas earlier this offseason it was all "will Josh Allen regress?" and "can the Bills fix their pass rush?", now I'm just seeing a whole lot of "Bills win the Super Bowl" predictions. What changed? Was it the preseason performance against the Packers? The training camp reports of Allen and the offense being lights out? The perceived improvement of the pass rush? Are the Bills just the "trendy" pick all of the sudden?

I'm sure there's much more than I'm listing here, but here's just a small collection of what I'm talking about. I'm not sure how to feel about all this but here we are. What a time to be a Bills fan.
 

 

 


 


 


 

 


 

1. buffalo has easier schedule…likely top seed.

2. how often have teams gone to 3 SB in a row?

 

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