Chaos Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Mitch Trubisky seems to be playing at a mid-range starting QB level. He is young and has the measurables that led to him being a first round pick? What could the Bills get for him in a trade? Does the level of potential compensation warrant making a trade? 5 3 1 1 1 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Can we pump the brakes with this kid? He was just a free agent and nobody wanted him. 1 2 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 It depends on who is looking for a QB. Right now I can't see anyone willing to trade a lot to get him. That may change as the season wears on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted August 22, 2021 Author Share Posted August 22, 2021 Just now, Bangarang said: Can we pump the brakes with this kid? He was just a free agent and nobody wanted him. A simple eye test demonstrates Nagy was the bigger problem that Trubisky. So this is a legit topic. Please feel free to sit it out. 5 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pondslider Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 4 first round picks or equivalent combination of picks and prospects. 1 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Y’all watched Webb and Fromm out there, then still ask this question? 28 7 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, Chaos said: Mitch Trubisky seems to be playing at a mid-range starting QB level. He is young and has the measurables that led to him being a first round pick? What could the Bills get for him in a trade? Does the level of potential compensation warrant making a trade? say we trade Trubisky. What do we look like if Josh gets injured and Webb and Fromm have to step in for a few games? That should quash any current notions of trading the backup. 11 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, Chaos said: Mitch Trubisky seems to be playing at a mid-range starting QB level. He is young and has the measurables that led to him being a first round pick? What could the Bills get for him in a trade? Does the level of potential compensation warrant making a trade? At his price he is worth far more to us as our #2 QB. Everyone saw Mahomes and Jackson exit close playoff games last year right? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Hope he can stay here long term, Frank Reich II 10 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Can we pump the brakes with this kid? He was just a free agent and nobody wanted him. That’s not true, Denver offered him a contract and he turned that down to come here. Edited August 22, 2021 by BuffaloBills1998 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chaos said: A simple eye test demonstrates Nagy was the bigger problem that Trubisky. So this is a legit topic. Please feel free to sit it out. It was one preseason game. It demonstrates nothing. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Stop with this. He isn't getting traded. We have the best backup in the league by far 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted August 22, 2021 Author Share Posted August 22, 2021 Just now, prissythecat said: say we trade Trubisky. What do we look like if Josh gets injured and Webb and Fromm have to step in for a few games? That should quash any current notions of trading the backup. Trubisky is clearly the best BU QB options the Bills will have for 2021. Trubisky will likely be gone to be a starter after this season. If someone offered a second (price for Garapollo paid by the 49ers), would the long term benefit of the second be worth trading? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 1 minute ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: That’s not true, Denver offered him a contract and a chance to start over lock and he turned that down to come here. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 13 minutes ago, Chaos said: Mitch Trubisky seems to be playing at a mid-range starting QB level. He is young and has the measurables that led to him being a first round pick? What could the Bills get for him in a trade? Does the level of potential compensation warrant making a trade? He’s looking really good in preseason. Fans may get giddy watching that, but NFL GMs know that it means very little. What they care about is his regular season performance, which was not exactly great. He’s a back up level QB until he balls out in the regular season against a halfway decent defense. I know the coaching staff is working with him and may very well accompany Daboll to his next destination, but he didn’t transform into a “mid-range starting QB” in a few weeks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 I think the better question is who should the Bills target in 2022 for the back up role? If Sam Darnold looks at least "meh" in Carolina and they decide to draft a rookie I wouldn't mind exploring that option. But looking at his contract it looks like the Panthers might be locked into him through the 2022 season with the 5th year option being exercised. So maybe he's a 2023 option. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co_springs_billsfan Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Maybe we get a comp pick when he leaves in free agency 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 If some team offers a first for MT, I'll take it even if it means the backup QB position is downgraded. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 1 minute ago, BarleyNY said: He’s looking really good in preseason. Fans may get giddy watching that, but NFL GMs know that it means very little. What they care about is his regular season performance, which was not exactly great. He’s a back up level QB until he balls out in the regular season against a halfway decent defense. I know the coaching staff is working with him and may very well accompany Daboll to his next destination, but he didn’t transform into a “mid-range starting QB” in a few weeks. I think the key is that our offense is light years ahead of Chicago's offense that he has played with the last few seasons. From o-line pass protection to receiving threats. That's not to mention as well Daboll is probably a much better x's and o's play caller. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Yep. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Can we pump the brakes with this kid? He was just a free agent and nobody wanted him. That might be a little harsh. Understand that many teams have established starters at the QB position and others have developing prospects like Tua, Herbert and Burrow and Hurts. Bringing in an established vet could quickly mess with the mind set of a young QB trying to solidify a QB1 spot and set back their development. Look what happened with Tua and Fitz. Fitz in the wings had Tua looking over his shoulder. You really think Trubisky couldn't start for the Jets, Miami, WFT, Phi or Carolina? Shoot, you don't think he can start for Chicago? 😅Tough spot for him to be in. Edited August 22, 2021 by billsbackto81 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 12 minutes ago, Pondslider said: 4 first round picks or equivalent combination of picks and prospects. Easy... McCaffrey & Kuechly and possibly one of Sam Darnold's Ghosts back so we can haunt Wilson and Mac... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted August 22, 2021 Author Share Posted August 22, 2021 Just now, Beast said: Yep. The point of the thread is not to advocate trading Trubisky. Reading comprehension is an important skill. Its a hypothetical question. I am certain that Beane has already thought of his response if he is asked. I doubt seriously his response would be "Holy *****, didn't think of that, during free agency no one wanted him." 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 1 minute ago, billsbackto81 said: That might be a little harsh. Understand that many teams have established starters at the QB position and others have developing prospects like Tua, Herbert and Burrow and Hurts. Bringing in an established vet could quickly mess with the mind set of a young QB trying to solidify a QB1 spot and set back their development. Look what happened with Tua and Fitz. Fitz in the wings had Tua looking over his shoulder. You really think Trubisky couldn't start for the Jets, Miami, WFT, Phi or Carolina? Tough spot for him to be in. It’s not harsh, it’s reality. And if signing a guy like Trubisky messes with the mind set and development of the young QB you drafted then that player was never going to ever be good if he’s that mentally weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 What's wrong with having a good backup 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: I think the key is that our offense is light years ahead of Chicago's offense that he has played with the last few seasons. From o-line pass protection to receiving threats. That's not to mention as well Daboll is probably a much better x's and o's play caller. While true, preseason defenses are usually very vanilla. Trubisky has started enough games that he can handle what he’s seen so far. Those quick slants and crosses aren’t going to be there all game against most NFL defenses. It will very much be a different situation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Mrbojanglezs said: What's wrong with having a good backup For whatever reason, people rave about our depth one minute and then want to trade them the next. It’s bizarre Edited August 22, 2021 by Bangarang 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 What are you going to get for him? A 5th round pick? I think If much prefer to have him as insurance if Allen gets hurt than a 5th round pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 15 minutes ago, Chaos said: Trubisky is clearly the best BU QB options the Bills will have for 2021. Trubisky will likely be gone to be a starter after this season. If someone offered a second (price for Garapollo paid by the 49ers), would the long term benefit of the second be worth trading? No one is offering a second. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 15 minutes ago, ALF said: Hope he can stay here long term, Frank Reich II Would be nice...unfortunately, I don’t think there are 32 QBs better than him...at the very least, I could see some team hiring him to be a bridge QB...I can see him being another Fitz or Tyrod type QB, in their prime... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Chaos said: The point of the thread is not to advocate trading Trubisky. Reading comprehension is an important skill. Its a hypothetical question. I am certain that Beane has already thought of his response if he is asked. I doubt seriously his response would be "Holy *****, didn't think of that, during free agency no one wanted him." Reading comprehension? Give me a freaking break. Your intention is exactly what I anticipated yesterday. As you said in response to another poster, you don't like my take, carry on. You want to start a legitimate trade value thread, let's talk about one of our many WR's that are looking good possibly bringing back a low end pick. Edited August 22, 2021 by Beast 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 The qb situation is settled for most teams around the league. I can't see a team making an offer unless an injury occurs. Possibly the Colts if Wentz gets hurt again and maybe Denver but Denver did not pursue when they had the opportunity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: That might be a little harsh. Understand that many teams have established starters at the QB position and others have developing prospects like Tua, Herbert and Burrow and Hurts. Bringing in an established vet could quickly mess with the mind set of a young QB trying to solidify a QB1 spot and set back their development. Look what happened with Tua and Fitz. Fitz in the wings had Tua looking over his shoulder. You really think Trubisky couldn't start for the Jets, Miami, WFT, Phi or Carolina? Shoot, you don't think he can start for Chicago? 😅Tough spot for him to be in. Every one of those teams would be looking to upgrade at qb if he were starter. We did 20 years of cycling through those guys and suddenly folks think they are getting a second rounder in august/September for a low tier starter/good backup that won’t know the playbook? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, Mrbojanglezs said: What's wrong with having a good backup Exactly. Unfortunately, for some, the college draft is what football is all about. Next year and the years after. This team is about the here and now. The goal is to win a Lombardi. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Starter quality backup at $2.5 million/season. Why the hell would you even think of trading that? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TailgateChef Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/ReicFr00.htm 9 solid years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 I could see us getting a 3rd round pick for him once someone like Tua gets hurt halfway through the season, or even to WFT when they get tired of Pick-Patrick. Question is, would we even make a deal with Miami? Go Bills!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Every one of those teams would be looking to upgrade at qb if he were starter. We did 20 years of cycling through those guys and suddenly folks think they are getting a second rounder in august/September for a low tier starter/good backup that won’t know the playbook? Prior to Allen, we did not have an above .500 QB that led us to the playoffs multiple times, as Trubisky did for the Bears. Lumping him in with the JAGs we had at QB the last 20 is unfair to him. Trubisky is way better than people give him credit for. Chicago screwed up badly, and the Bills have taken full advantage. Edited August 22, 2021 by Freddie's Dead 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 (edited) Yesterday showed Tru can run the pitch-and-catch offense against vanilla D. If everything goes according to plan, Daboll will shop himself as a HC and bring Tru with him to some lowly franchise looking to make a change at both head coach and QB. In the meantime the Bills surely aren’t trading him. Edited August 22, 2021 by Coach Tuesday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 I can see Daboll getting a HC spot and bringing Mitch with him next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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