Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 1 hour ago, GETTOTHE50 said: that video really wasn’t that bad He seriously damaged the door, got it partially open, and got pepper-sprayed in the face? I'm sorry, video of you trying to break into the house where my family lives and only desisting when you got a face full of pepper spray, would look plenty bad to me. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 53 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: He seriously damaged the door, got it partially open, and got pepper-sprayed in the face? I'm sorry, video of you trying to break into the house where my family lives and only desisting when you got a face full of pepper spray, would look plenty bad to me. It was bad, but thankfully no one got hurt, and it seems Sherman knows it. He's apparently been in a pretty bad place for awhile now, as back in Feb he got one of those court orders that recognized him as a danger to himself and others, and barred from guns - and he's been on anti-depressants while getting therapy. Mental health illness is really hard on the individual and the family. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 1 hour ago, appoo said: It was bad, but thankfully no one got hurt, and it seems Sherman knows it. He's apparently been in a pretty bad place for awhile now, as back in Feb he got one of those court orders that recognized him as a danger to himself and others, and barred from guns - and he's been on anti-depressants while getting therapy. Mental health illness is really hard on the individual and the family. Reading about the ERPO now. First I've heard of it. Poor guy must really be messed up. Clearly, this isn't one bad night. Can't help but think CTE is playing a major role in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 5 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: He seriously damaged the door, got it partially open, and got pepper-sprayed in the face? I'm sorry, video of you trying to break into the house where my family lives and only desisting when you got a face full of pepper spray, would look plenty bad to me. I’m not saying it was a good look. I more or less meant by comparison to other videos that have been released, like Baker running from the cops or Ray Rice punching his girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said: I’m not saying it was a good look. I more or less meant by comparison to other videos that have been released, like Baker running from the cops or Ray Rice punching his girl. Ah, yeah, relative to punching or kicking a woman or resisting arrest, I take your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) On 7/16/2021 at 5:03 PM, appoo said: It was bad, but thankfully no one got hurt, and it seems Sherman knows it. He's apparently been in a pretty bad place for awhile now, as back in Feb he got one of those court orders that recognized him as a danger to himself and others, and barred from guns - and he's been on anti-depressants while getting therapy. Mental health illness is really hard on the individual and the family. I am looking at upcoming eye surgery related to when a family member was in a bad place a few years ago. I hold zero ill will because I recognize it for what it was. If all is well for you in your life, you are blessed. Just know that not all people are so fortunate. EDIT: Full disclosure, the cataract surgery is a lot like LASIK and they say it fixes your vision so no need to deal with contacts or glasses, so that part is kinda exciting. BUT, it’s still surgery on my eyeballs, which carries a certain dread factor. Back when it happened the doc told me that put some years on my right eye, so this came much sooner than would be expected. . Edited July 17, 2021 by Augie 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 When you watch the video of the incident and remember some of his rants during & after games & the foolish things he has done on his career it really doesn't surprise me in the least that he lost it he can't keep it wrapped up when he's sober let alone adding alcohol . That is a perfect concoction for a disastrous out come ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 On 7/16/2021 at 2:46 PM, YoloinOhio said: Well written (by his agent, PR person or attorney). And before y’all start screaming about Stanford and SAT English/Composition scores, please understand, his handlers (agent or attorney) said “Gimme your phone and let me take care of this”. It’s a new age. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frat-Train Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) CTE is pretty real. Edited July 18, 2021 by Frat-Train Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Frat-Train said: CRT is pretty real. “Come (right) Through” disease? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 45 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: “Come (right) Through” disease? Potential victim of crt right there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 2 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: “Come (right) Through” disease? I get that after Burger King Whoppers and sometimes Mexican food. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 Just now, Augie said: I get that after Burger King Whoppers and sometimes Mexican food. Can I just say ewwwwwww! Way way way over TMI here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 21 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: “Come (right) Through” disease? Cranium, Richard Thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 22 hours ago, Frat-Train said: CRT is pretty real. used to be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 On 7/14/2021 at 10:34 PM, Johnny Hammersticks said: Thanks for asking. It’s for it. I felt you would be the best resource On 7/14/2021 at 11:17 PM, jeremy2020 said: Whatever I think it says...no need to actually read it. I took bible study in kindergarten 54 years ago. Bible was read to me. Feel I have enough to go on But prefer to trust the experts in these critical matters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 On 7/14/2021 at 11:37 PM, Royale with Cheese said: That 911 dispatcher needs to be replaced. Brutal. and wrongful. Replaced and critique their process as well. If and when we are in an emergency and fully stressed . we need Help. not BS concerns me to read these things too often. On 7/15/2021 at 12:14 AM, Gugny said: That a woman can get pregnant without having sex? one of the finer details . I see you keep up. and a Manger can be nice place to hang for some wine and a birthing ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: used to be... Cathode ray terminal actually On 7/16/2021 at 2:46 PM, YoloinOhio said: Perhaps I am in the minority here ? But feel awful he and his Family are living this. for whatever the affliction is or how it came to the forefront of his life. Mental Health. When it becomes degraded by disease or self inflicted is just a horrorshow for too many Folks. and it always affects Family who might well be innocent bystanders. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 While I have nothing but sympathy for anyone who is genuinely afflicted with a mental health disorder, it's also become a nice little sound bite for anyone in the public eye to stick in a press release two seconds after they get caught acting like a dick. Get caught having an affair? "I've been battling sex addiction for some time." Yeah, you, me and every other man on earth. Arrested for beating your kids? "I'm battling some personal demons and this time they got the better of me" They all sound like deviant priests who blame the temptation of satan for forcing their hand. At some point in life you have to just come out and admit you behaved like an ####### without the colorful crispy coating 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: While I have nothing but sympathy for anyone who is genuinely afflicted with a mental health disorder, it's also become a nice little sound bite for anyone in the public eye to stick in a press release two seconds after they get caught acting like a dick. Get caught having an affair? "I've been battling sex addiction for some time." Yeah, you, me and every other man on earth. Arrested for beating your kids? "I'm battling some personal demons and this time they got the better of me" They all sound like deviant priests who blame the temptation of satan for forcing their hand. At some point in life you have to just come out and admit you behaved like an ####### without the colorful crispy coating I understand your point as a general point. Too many excuses, not enough personal accountability. But in this case, apparently Sherman's mental and personal struggles have been going on since February with various documentation, friends trying to help him, etc. Doesn't seem like an afterthought, and in fact, he didn't have an affair, beat his wife or kids etc etc. Perhaps you meant this as a general comment and not about Sherman in particular? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 13 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I understand your point as a general point. Too many excuses, not enough personal accountability. But in this case, apparently Sherman's mental and personal struggles have been going on since February with various documentation, friends trying to help him, etc. Doesn't seem like an afterthought, and in fact, he didn't have an affair, beat his wife or kids etc etc. Perhaps you meant this as a general comment and not about Sherman in particular? Yeah, it was in reference to some of the comments I've read. I don't know the details about Sherman so can't comment on his particular case. I do know he was driving under the influence, which is something that really pisses me off. Just look at Reid's kid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 24 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: While I have nothing but sympathy for anyone who is genuinely afflicted with a mental health disorder, it's also become a nice little sound bite for anyone in the public eye to stick in a press release two seconds after they get caught acting like a dick. Get caught having an affair? "I've been battling sex addiction for some time." Yeah, you, me and every other man on earth. Arrested for beating your kids? "I'm battling some personal demons and this time they got the better of me" They all sound like deviant priests who blame the temptation of satan for forcing their hand. At some point in life you have to just come out and admit you behaved like an ####### without the colorful crispy coating I admire your ability to discern who has genuine mental health issues and who is acting like a dick. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: I admire your ability to discern who has genuine mental health issues and who is acting like a dick. I don’t know if he’s trying discern who has true mental health issues. I think he makes a valid point that every misdeed is followed by an apology that includes a reference to mental health these days. I’m not sure why people can’t issue an apology without, “I’ve been struggling with ….” references. Address your mental health issues in private, and just apologize for your actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 42 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: I don’t know if he’s trying discern who has true mental health issues. I think he makes a valid point that every misdeed is followed by an apology that includes a reference to mental health these days. I’m not sure why people can’t issue an apology without, “I’ve been struggling with ….” references. Address your mental health issues in private, and just apologize for your actions. I always had a problem with the "sex addiction" thing. Especially when Tiger Woods claimed that his legitimate mental health afflictions caused him to have sex with all those porn stars and other skanks. Give me a freaking break. You're a wealthy, famous man who enjoyed having sex with a lot of women and got away with it for a while. Almost an insult to others who suffer with legitimate mental health issues. But I digress.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Nothing more than an agent trying to spin the facts. I never listen to these comments until the vetted truth comes out. His camp will figure it out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 2 hours ago, 3rdand12 said: Cathode ray terminal actually Perhaps I am in the minority here ? But feel awful he and his Family are living this. for whatever the affliction is or how it came to the forefront of his life. Mental Health. When it becomes degraded by disease or self inflicted is just a horrorshow for too many Folks. and it always affects Family who might well be innocent bystanders. cathode Ray tube, actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 1 hour ago, SirAndrew said: I don’t know if he’s trying discern who has true mental health issues. I think he makes a valid point that every misdeed is followed by an apology that includes a reference to mental health these days. I’m not sure why people can’t issue an apology without, “I’ve been struggling with ….” references. Address your mental health issues in private, and just apologize for your actions. Even with mental health issues you will be held accountable, at least on some level. Don’t pretend like someone with mental health issues will not pay in one way or another if they did something wrong. Instead of jails theres long term psychiatric hospitals, nursing homes etc. I suppose that so and sos level of functionability is what determines the outcome, but don’t pretend that the Nicholas Cruz’s and the weirdo “Joker” mass shooter will be let off easy, they’re in medical prisons for life and they should be, but the ones who may have acted in a way like Sherman did, there will likely be stipulations upon his release. Court ordered therapy, medications, abstinence from alcohol, AA meetings etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 26 minutes ago, Victory Formation said: Even with mental health issues you will be held accountable, at least on some level. Don’t pretend like someone with mental health issues will not pay in one way or another if they did something wrong. Instead of jails theres long term psychiatric hospitals, nursing homes etc. I suppose that so and sos level of functionability is what determines the outcome, but don’t pretend that the Nicholas Cruz’s and the weirdo “Joker” mass shooter will be let off easy, they’re in medical prisons for life and they should be, but the ones who may have acted in a way like Sherman did, there will likely be stipulations upon his release. Court ordered therapy, medications, abstinence from alcohol, AA meetings etc. It is weird that I feel the need to defend Sherman because he has so often appeared just barely sane but his illness is likely being made worse by his likely retirement, or at least greatly diminished role. You do not become as accomplished as he has been without dedicating yourself to the game and using force to make it happen. I hope this is the worst thing he ever does and he gets the help he needs because at this point he is likely to either go down that rabbit hole all the way unless he learns how to control his emotions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: It is weird that I feel the need to defend Sherman because he has so often appeared just barely sane but his illness is likely being made worse by his likely retirement, or at least greatly diminished role. You do not become as accomplished as he has been without dedicating yourself to the game and using force to make it happen. I hope this is the worst thing he ever does and he gets the help he needs because at this point he is likely to either go down that rabbit hole all the way unless he learns how to control his emotions. Yup. I admire you for not judging him. Some crimes are unforgivable, especially against children and also the shedding of innocent blood and those sort of atrocities, etc. What Sherman did was wrong, but once again, he’ll pay. There will likely be some sort of medications that he’ll be prescribed, which likely means he’ll be seeing a doctor for the rest of his life. Meaning there will also be therapy involved as well. Likely forever. To those who say that people with mental illness do not pay for their actions, what do you think the outcome would be for Sherman had he had no illness at all? A year in jail? With the kind of money he has, he may have just gotten probation and let off easy anyways. Mental illness actually hurts him here. Once again, this man will likely be seeing therapists and doctors for the rest of his life. Many players around the NFL have done much worst and after they serve their 6 game suspension, life goes on as it were before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Victory Formation said: Even with mental health issues you will be held accountable, at least on some level. Don’t pretend like someone with mental health issues will not pay in one way or another if they did something wrong. Instead of jails theres long term psychiatric hospitals, nursing homes etc. I suppose that so and sos level of functionability is what determines the outcome, but don’t pretend that the Nicholas Cruz’s and the weirdo “Joker” mass shooter will be let off easy, they’re in medical prisons for life and they should be, but the ones who may have acted in a way like Sherman did, there will likely be stipulations upon his release. Court ordered therapy, medications, abstinence from alcohol, AA meetings etc. I won’t claim that mental illness gets people out of things. I simply have an issue with people publicly acknowledging their mental health issues AFTER some type of anti social behavior. Statistics show that mentally ill people aren’t more likely to engage in violent behavior against others than those without mental illness. Can mental illness be responsible for violent outbursts ? Of course, but not every violent behavior must be caused by mental illness. It’s not right for me to judge others, I can’t say whose behaviors are caused by mental illness, but I don’t like it as a catch all for negative behavior. Society talks about erasing the stigma of mental illness, but every single violent act, or act of evil is possibly wrongly labeled as mental illness. I wish public figures wouldn’t feel the need to address mental illness when they attempt half hearted apologizes for acts such as domestic violence. I’ll never dismiss the possibility that someone struggles with mental illness, but I don’t see the need to include it in apologies. It’s more the idea of using it as an excuse, no matter how valid. People who truly can’t control their behavior exist, but most people can, and not every crime or act of evil is mental illness imo. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Its very rude to lock your door Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 8 hours ago, SirAndrew said: I won’t claim that mental illness gets people out of things. I simply have an issue with people publicly acknowledging their mental health issues AFTER some type of anti social behavior. Statistics show that mentally ill people aren’t more likely to engage in violent behavior against others than those without mental illness. Can mental illness be responsible for violent outbursts ? Of course, but not every violent behavior must be caused by mental illness. It’s not right for me to judge others, I can’t say whose behaviors are caused by mental illness, but I don’t like it as a catch all for negative behavior. Society talks about erasing the stigma of mental illness, but every single violent act, or act of evil is possibly wrongly labeled as mental illness. I wish public figures wouldn’t feel the need to address mental illness when they attempt half hearted apologizes for acts such as domestic violence. I’ll never dismiss the possibility that someone struggles with mental illness, but I don’t see the need to include it in apologies. It’s more the idea of using it as an excuse, no matter how valid. People who truly can’t control their behavior exist, but most people can, and not every crime or act of evil is mental illness imo. IMO, looking from the outside…. Sherman is a little depressed that he’s at the end of the road of his career, or it might be done and the alcohol brought out the rage. I’ve known angry drunks in the past so I’ve seen it first hand. I don’t think his is CTE or mental illness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: IMO, looking from the outside…. Sherman is a little depressed that he’s at the end of the road of his career, or it might be done and the alcohol brought out the rage. I’ve known angry drunks in the past so I’ve seen it first hand. I don’t think his is CTE or mental illness. I think you might have contradicted yourself a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 24 minutes ago, Gugny said: I think you might have contradicted yourself a little. I think there’s a difference between clinically medically depressed and being down in the dumps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Richard Sherman, Richie Incognito and Antonio Brown walk into a bar….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 32 minutes ago, Beast said: Richard Sherman, Richie Incognito and Antonio Brown walk into a bar….. What's the punchline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) 22 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: I always had a problem with the "sex addiction" thing. Especially when Tiger Woods claimed that his legitimate mental health afflictions caused him to have sex with all those porn stars and other skanks. Give me a freaking break. You're a wealthy, famous man who enjoyed having sex with a lot of women and got away with it for a while. Almost an insult to others who suffer with legitimate mental health issues. But I digress.... Wait, you think tiger woods hooking up with random waffle house waitresses he just met, while married (to a super model not that it matters) with two kids, and a crap ton to lose if any of them went public is rational behavior? That seems similar to the standard on the road behavior you hear about when it comes to cheating athletes? Tiger Woods was making extremely poor and destructive choices around sex. Dude clearly had a very significant issue with compulsive sex. Edited July 19, 2021 by HardyBoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, HardyBoy said: Wait, you think tiger woods hooking up with random waffle house waitresses he just met, while married (to a super model not that it matters) with two kids, and a crap ton to lose if any of them went public is rational behavior? That seems similar to the standard on the road behavior you hear about when it comes to cheating athletes? Tiger Woods was making extremely poor and destructive choices around sex. Dude clearly had a very significant issue with compulsive sex. Whatever happened to just being a dirtbag? Can’t that still be a thing, or do we have a mental disorder now for everyone who behaves like an #######? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Whatever happened to just being a dirtbag? Can’t that still be a thing, or do we have a mental disorder now for everyone who behaves like an #######? It can, but compulsive and destructive behavior you can't stop if you tried while knowing the potential consequences is not being a dirtbag, it's addiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 30 minutes ago, HardyBoy said: It can, but compulsive and destructive behavior you can't stop if you tried while knowing the potential consequences is not being a dirtbag, it's addiction. So if I compulsively punch old ladies in the supermarket I’m addicted to punching old ladies? I suppose I should go to old lady punching rehab? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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