Your day 2 crush?

[YoloinOhio]

3 hours ago, billykay said:

I know this is off topic, but why haven't we heard from Kirby Jackson ?

I heard he left the board 😞

[In Summary]

If the Bills think they can keep him under 340 lb or so, Shelvin in the 3rd.   

[mannc]

5 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

I am hoping that either

 

We trade down and out of the 1st giving us 2 day day 2 picks taking a corner and a defensive end

 

A DE falls in the 2nd that we have a chance to select by trading up

John, the Bills already have 2 day-2 picks.

[BADOLBILZ]

40 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I heard he left the board 😞

 

Yeah you guys really did some damage when I was on the wagon.

[mannc]

Day 3 Crush: Avery Williams, CB, slot WR, special teams, Boise State.

[just1hugheser]

Here are some/most of the day 2/3 guys that I like(in no particular order);

 

Secondary:  Wiggins, Joseph, Moolden, Campbell, Rochell, Diablo, Cisco, Grant, Hall, Bynum, Jean-Charles, Wade

 

WR: Collins, Darden, Fehoko, Wallace, Atwell, Schwartz

 

TE:  Jordan, Long, McKitty

 

DE/Edge: Perkins, Turner, Odeyingbo, Toney, Jones, Hamilcar

 

LB- Surratt, Browning, Rice

 

DT- McNeil, Slaton, Bohanna, Tonga, Brown

 

RB- Hill, Gainwell

[OldTimer1960]

6 hours ago, N.Y. Orangeman said:

Tremble here as well.   What an asset he'd be in the running game while he develops in the passing game.

He is a really tough blocker, but at 245ish, he isn’t going to dominate as a blocker in the NFL.

[John from Riverside]

56 minutes ago, mannc said:

John, the Bills already have 2 day-2 picks.

Lets get another one.   We dont have a 4th

[OldTimer1960]

I am not enamored with anyone likely available at 30.  I do like DEs Payton Turner, Carlos Basham and Joe Tryon and Greg Rousseau - but not any of them particularly at 30.

 

Likewise, I think they will miss out on the top corners, but who can tell which ones of them will be any good?  I watched Tyson Campbell vs Florida and he had tight coverage on Kyle Pitts several times, but gave up 2 TDS to Pitts even with tight coverage.  Likewise, he seemed to hold his own against Alabama’s Uber-talented WR tandem, but Waddle torched him(leaving Campbell on the ground) for a long TD.  Still, nobody is stopping those guys completely.

1 hour ago, In Summary said:

If the Bills think they can keep him under 340 lb or so, Shelvin in the 3rd.   

Shelvin doesn’t strike me as “process” if he isn’t motivated enough to control his weight.

[In Summary]

2 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

I am not enamored with anyone likely available at 30.  I do like DEs Payton Turner, Carlos Basham and Joe Tryon and Greg Rousseau - but not any of them particularly at 30.

 

Likewise, I think they will miss out on the top corners, but who can tell which ones of them will be any good?  I watched Tyson Campbell vs Florida and he had tight coverage on Kyle Pitts several times, but gave up 2 TDS to Pitts even with tight coverage.  Likewise, he seemed to hold his own against Alabama’s Uber-talented WR tandem, but Waddle torched him(leaving Campbell on the ground) for a long TD.  Still, nobody is stopping those guys completely.

Shelvin doesn’t strike me as “process” if he isn’t motivated enough to control his weight.

Fair point.  We don't need another Darrius. 

 

Some say Shelvin's version of the position is outdated and DT's who don't penetrate need not apply, but when our D-line faces 5 guys all over 300 and our LB's are needed to cover space and multi-task rather than just thump into RB's, I think a weak 1T DT just invites problems.  It's not about becoming a throwback #1 run defense (because I think the Bills are absolutely fine being run on up to a point), but becoming good enough to not get gouged by the run at will or being able to stop teams from converting 3rd and short on the ground.  Last year we weren't good enough. 

 

These "projects as a 3 but could play the 1" prospect descriptions don't really convince me this is the player we need.  Shelvin came to mind as I think he has the size and potential to improve that position and, per the OP's question, is a late Day 2 pick.

[RyanC883]

7 hours ago, H2o said:

I'd love to get Payton Turner/DE/Houston in Round 2 and Bobby Brown III/DT/Texas A&M in Round 3. 

 

I like Bobby Brown also, but RD 3 seems a bit early.  I think he may be around in 5.  

[BornAgainBillsFan]

7 hours ago, Bigvinny said:

Creed Humphrey starts at Center for a decade. 

 

Me, too. Take Creed, and let Mitch ride off into the sunset while his brain still functions.

[H2o]

8 hours ago, RyanC883 said:

 

I like Bobby Brown also, but RD 3 seems a bit early.  I think he may be around in 5.  

I have a feeling if we don't take him in the 3rd then he's not going to make it to us in the 5th.

[GunnerBill]

18 hours ago, glazeduck said:

In order of crushiness...

 

Nico Collins

Joseph Ossai

Kelvin Joseph

Wyatt Davis

Devine Diablo

Dwayne Eskridge

Paulson Adebo

 

 

I'd be willing to take Ossai at #30 but all the rest except Diablo would be on my day 2 list.

[CaptnCoke11]

20 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

I am hoping that either

 

We trade down and out of the 1st giving us 2 day day 2 picks taking a corner and a defensive end

 

A DE falls in the 2nd that we have a chance to select by trading up

We have two day two picks already 

[JESSEFEFFER]

20 hours ago, whatdrought said:

Alim McNeil, 3rd round.

 

Big DT who anchors against the run, but also gives upside against the pass. He’s a guy who can play both 3 and 1 Tech giving the DL additional versatility. 

 

Most mocks by Bills' fans and media that I have seen include either McNeil or Shelvin, usually in the 3rd round.  So, without having my own to share I will share that observation.

[Solomon Grundy]

14 hours ago, just1hugheser said:

Here are some/most of the day 2/3 guys that I like(in no particular order);

 

Secondary:  Wiggins, Joseph, Moolden, Campbell, Rochell, Diablo, Cisco, Grant, Hall, Bynum, Jean-Charles, Wade

 

WR: Collins, Darden, Fehoko, Wallace, Atwell, Schwartz

 

TE:  Jordan, Long, McKitty

 

DE/Edge: Perkins, Turner, Odeyingbo, Toney, Jones, Hamilcar

 

LB- Surratt, Browning, Rice

 

DT- McNeil, Slaton, Bohanna, Tonga, Brown

 

RB- Hill, Gainwell

I like this list. May I add Quincy Roche and Khalil Herbert? 

[glazeduck]

3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I'd be willing to take Ossai at #30 but all the rest except Diablo would be on my day 2 list.

Those are all day 2 crushes for me, ideally. But with you on ossai. 

[TheBeaneBandit]

39 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

I like this list. May I add Quincy Roche and Khalil Herbert? 

I sure like both guys👍

[RyanC883]

7 hours ago, H2o said:

I have a feeling if we don't take him in the 3rd then he's not going to make it to us in the 5th.

 

very possible he wouldn’t.  I just don’t know of he is worth a 3rd, depends on who else is available I suppose.  will be fun to watch. I could see us trading into 4th or something for a 1T

Weaver, DE Pitt.  We need Edge help.  He is very productive in college.  Projects as a better run stopper than pass rusher but knows how to get behind the LOS and cause havoc.  

[BigAl2526]

If the Bills don't get their edge rusher in round 1, I'm intrigued by Payton Turner.

[just1hugheser]

7 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

I like this list. May I add Quincy Roche and Khalil Herbert? 

thanks, of course, add whomever you'd like.

 

I'm a fan of Roche too and I almost put him in there, and Khalil would be an interesting 6/7th rounder or udfa(imo) he has nice contact balance due to his height and how low he runs, has decent speed, could help in st and as a returner, more of a zone blocking scheme type with decent vision but lacks exp, is a little older, needs work in pass pro, but the upside is there with minimal investment.

[frogger]

On 4/27/2021 at 12:41 PM, YoloinOhio said:

Pete Werner 

creed humphrey

trey sermon 

Jackson Carman

JaCoby Neal

 

I’m with you with Pete Werner, I feel he could end up being the best LB in the entire draft.  

[Coach Tuesday]

2 minutes ago, frogger said:

I’m with you with Pete Werner, I feel he could end up being the best LB in the entire draft.  

Werner would accidentally solve all of the Bills’ problems.  He’s the instinctive Mike that would force them to kick Edmunds outside, where Tre would become a 10-15 sack guy easy.  All of a sudden you’ve got a killer defense.  

[gonzo1105]

Peyton Turner DE Houston

Rashad Weaver DE Pitt

Quinn Meinerz OC/OG Wisc White

[BuffaloBillsGospel]

Ronnie Perkins DE Oklahoma, if we don't get one in the 1st.

[YoloinOhio]

On 4/27/2021 at 8:58 PM, BornAgainBillsFan said:

 

Me, too. Take Creed, and let Mitch ride off into the sunset while his brain still functions.

Creed Humphrey is one of those players who will get drafted by another team and I’ll start throwing things. 

[BornAgainBillsFan]

On 4/27/2021 at 6:24 PM, mannc said:

Day 3 Crush: Avery Williams, CB, slot WR, special teams, Boise State.

 

It's Avery Williamson.

 

I'm thinking we better use one of the 5th rounders, because he may not last until our #213 in the 6th. But he could be our KR/PR for at least the next 4-5 years.

 

[Locomark]

Day 2 Crush is Landon Dickerson... time to replace Morse and I think he may be that man. He can slot guard this year if Cody fails (and we can possibly trade Cody for a pick outright) or Cody just moved to a swing player. Then move Landon to center next year. 
 

Day 3 Crush is OT Iowa -Alaric Jackson a first team big ten left tackle who probably projects as an NFL guard for us. Versatility to play multiple spots ! 

 

i expect the other day 1 and day 2 spots to be edge, cb, or rb. 

[LyndonvilleBill]

Q. Meinerz OC/OG - W. Whitewater 

Dayo Odeyingbo - Edge Vanderbilt 

[PromoTheRobot]

With all the talk of UB RB Jaret Patterson, people are overlooking DE Malcolm Koonce who use projected to go in the 3rd or 4th.

Edited April 29, 2021 by PromoTheRobot

[CNYfan]

On Friday, I think, BBB will select one of T. Shelvin, A. McNeill or B. Brown, III.   

I am excited to see which one, and under what circumstances.

[mannc]

9 hours ago, BornAgainBillsFan said:

 

It's Avery Williamson.

 

I'm thinking we better use one of the 5th rounders, because he may not last until our #213 in the 6th. But he could be our KR/PR for at least the next 4-5 years.

 

No, it’s Avery Williams.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4048259/avery-williams
 

And I’ve been informed by some of the haters here that he’ll be available as UDFA.  They’re wrong.

[BornAgainBillsFan]

2 hours ago, mannc said:

No, it’s Avery Williams.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4048259/avery-williams
 

And I’ve been informed by some of the haters here that he’ll be available as UDFA.  They’re wrong.

 

You are correct, sir! My bad, @mannc! Too many prospects with similar names to keep track of. I'm sure Beane will get it right on Saturday. 🙏

 

[glazeduck]

2 hours ago, mannc said:

No, it’s Avery Williams.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4048259/avery-williams
 

And I’ve been informed by some of the haters here that he’ll be available as UDFA.  They’re wrong.

Very wrong. EVERY team is excited about this kid, he'll be gone by the end of the 5th, I'll bet.

[glazeduck]

Less a crush, more a prediction, but I've been saying that we trade up in the 1st for the guy we want. Simply a WAG, but the value at the end of 2 is as weird as it is as one. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised for that trade to be swapping our 2 for another 3...

 

With 2 3s I think there's good depth at WR, CB, TE, OL, big Nickle and 1T -- conveniently all of our biggest needs.

[mannc]

On 4/29/2021 at 9:04 AM, glazeduck said:

Very wrong. EVERY team is excited about this kid, he'll be gone by the end of the 5th, I'll bet.

Yep

[glazeduck]

41 minutes ago, mannc said:

Yep

HA! That call looks like a pretty good one! 😁

[mannc]

Just now, glazeduck said:

HA! That call looks like a pretty good one! 😁

Unlike almost all of my others...

[glazeduck]

3 minutes ago, mannc said:

Unlike almost all of my others...

Mine too.