John from Riverside Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS 1 hour ago, BillsMafi$ said: Looks like it’ll be a quiet week next week I so look forward to your posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Talk about continuity.... I love it! Anyone with running tabs on our cap space? I think Beane finds a way to make ONE splashy offseason FA signingt or trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Don’t doubt the Beane I just don’t know that it makes a ton of sense to bring Feliciano back, UNLESS, they go RB early in either Harris, Etienne or Williams. Clearly our run game was an issue. It’s wishful thinking to believe it will be solved by simply having a healthy Cody Ford. Dawkins, Williams and Morse are all above average players at their position, but if we lack outside speed at the RB position, they best way to develop a run game without drafting a RB, would be to draft a dominant run blocker early at G, to pair with a healthy Ford. Edited March 12, 2021 by SCBills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perk71 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Right on! Go Bills!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, ngbills said: We are paying these guys market value or above. Glad to have them back but we are not doing it on the cheap. If these guys signed elsewhere on these contracts I bet most would be saying "Beane would not pay that kind of money". So I have mixed feelings on the signings. Now we need good value at other positions bc our value RT just got paid. Happy they are back but was hoping for upgrades on the edge and at TE. I think your estimate of market value is suspect. Both were projected to fetch more in free agency. In general I think prices may be depressed this year, but I still expect when it all said and done both of these deals will look like bargains. It is much too early to tell given that FA has not even started yet. Edited March 12, 2021 by FLFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkirk Donski Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Beane trolls 2BD. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 minute ago, SCBills said: I just don’t know that it makes a ton of sense to bring Feliciano back, UNLESS, they go RB early in either Harris, Etienne or Williams. Clearly our run game was an issue. It’s wishful thinking to believe it will be solved by simply having a healthy Cody Ford. Dawkins, Williams and Morse are all above average players at their position, but if we lack outside speed at the RB position, they best way to develop a run game without drafting a RB, would be to draft a dominant run blocker early at G, to pair with a healthy Ford. I was not very impressed with Feliciano last year. He was a big part of the under performing run game and was an absolute turnstile in the championship game. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 (edited) As I’ve stated before, since this regime has been in place it is the first time since the ‘90’s that I’m not stressed and frustrated over their offseason moves. Man I love this organization! Edited March 12, 2021 by TroutDog 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 hour ago, WMDman said: I would die for Beane at this point Beane can have my wife (if I had one) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 47 minutes ago, MJS said: Same thing was said about Milano and Williams. Just have to wait and see what happens. True but at some point there won't be enough money next week in FA to sign him plus a TE and DE and maybe even a LB. And I'd put signing a a TE and DE above Mongo now that Williams has resigned. I do think they will draft a lineman early who will start so may not need Mongo at this point where as having two spots open may have been too much. Maybe Beane was working both Williams and Mongo. First one to agree to a deal gets it, loser is out?? Will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Resign your quality FA but do not over pay. Good work by Beane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 hour ago, MrSarcasm said: So Mongo gone and Ford goes in his place. I like it. Naaaa I think Ford goes to left guard and we draft one high 1 hour ago, njbuff said: I get that. But I ain't about to crown the Bills over the Chiefs just yet. The only thing you can do is take care of your own yard....you cant be concerned with someone elses yard because you cant control that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 hour ago, MrSarcasm said: So Mongo gone and Ford goes in his place. I like it. Everyone now saying Mongo is gone which means we should all assume an extension is imminent based on the last 24 hours. 3 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 hour ago, RiotAct said: anyone you like at pick #30? There are like 3 RG's I would take at 30 1 hour ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Why do we all hate Feliciano? His salary is too high At a lesser salary I would love him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnus00 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: *tears up mock draft again* Same. I was even preparing myself for the team to take a small step back next season to re-tool for a long SB run. Nope. Beane is going for the jugular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 hour ago, No_Matter_What said: So, what are the chances we draft OT in first two rounds now? Unless a incredible talent falls for whatever reason....none.....and they probably draft him to move to OG in the first year 1 hour ago, Wayne Cubed said: I’m still thinking OT is in play at 30. This draft is deep for OT. They can plug the rookie in at OG, then he takes over for Williams. in 3 years? thats long term in the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 31 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Wow. I did not think they could keep Matt and Daryl. Fantastic news. Replacing Mongo is the easy bit. I expect a very quiet FA. I think this means changes to your mock now too right? Maybe trade up to the early 20's for Kadarius Toney? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Love it, 2 out of the 3 starters that were unrestricted free agents are retained and Williams in my opinion was the most important. I like Milano but I am not trying to replace a starting tackle when I have a stud young QB. Mongo I would hope to resign but if you can’t make it work you can’t make it work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: I selected the 'vomit' emoji only because Brandon Beane is sick! Dude makes Bill Polian look like an amateur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Utah John said: Beane should be wearing a tall pointed cap with stars and moons. He's a wizard. Now if he could just turn Tom Brady into a newt ... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Everyone now saying Mongo is gone which means we should all assume an extension is imminent based on the last 24 hours. I wouldn’t be shocked to see Mongo back. I think McBeane is looking to retain as much of the 2020 roster as possible and then draft a pass rusher and pass catcher to add those last pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Salary a little high, but glad they spent in on Williams and not Feliciano. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: *tears up mock draft again* we should still take OL, just to spite KC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: I think this means changes to your mock now too right? Maybe trade up to the early 20's for Kadarius Toney? I think they are genuinely in BPA territory now. Still think Greg Newsome is in play if he is there. An OT in the first 3 rounds probably not. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Just now, billsfan89 said: I wouldn’t be shocked to see Mongo back. I think McBeane is looking to retain as much of the 2020 roster as possible and then draft a pass rusher and pass catcher to add those last pieces. does seem like that. Although I would prefer an Edge like Lawson over Milano and use the draft for LB. But if Bean somehow lands an impact Edge in FA, he is in the offseason GM Hall of Fame! Just now, GunnerBill said: I think they are genuinely in BPA territory now. Still think Greg Newsome is in play if he is there. An OT in the first 3 rounds probably not. agree on BPA territory. Wonder if they trade down if somehow the safety from TCU is the BPA when they draft. From what I've read, he's a great safety, can cover WR's, deep, support run, etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: in 3 years? thats long term in the NFL Not really La’al Collins, a consensus 1st round OT, played 2 seasons at LG for Dallas before moving to RT when Free retired. It’s forward thinking and you get a 5th year. We don’t even know the details of the Williams contract it may essentially be a 2 year deal. I guess I just wouldn’t rule it out if it’s BPA and it means keeping Josh upright. Edited March 12, 2021 by Wayne Cubed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 29 minutes ago, K-No said: Don’t throttle me cuz I’m just asking you experts, but is Trey Adams in the picture at all? I wonder if they are grooming him to be the swing tackle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Unless a incredible talent falls for whatever reason....none.....and they probably draft him to move to OG in the first year I could still see them taking one even at 30.. Play them at G as you say , and when Williams is moved on in 2 years when you have to start paying JA ...you got a cheap RT option on his rookie deal that has had some seasoning all ready in the big league and has filled at hole at G in the meantime... Edited March 12, 2021 by Aussie Joe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 minute ago, RyanC883 said: does seem like that. Although I would prefer an Edge like Lawson over Milano and use the draft for LB. But if Bean somehow lands an impact Edge in FA, he is in the offseason GM Hall of Fame! I think if they resign Mongo they still go Oline with their round 3 selection. They will likely need a swing tackle and depth along the Oline. I then think in round 1 they are going for a pass rusher. But I still wouldn’t be shocked to see a reclamation project be brought in at the pass rusher position. Given the market they might be willing to try and go after a player like D.Williams last year a high performing player who is coming off multiple down years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 minute ago, billsfan89 said: I think if they resign Mongo they still go Oline with their round 3 selection. They will likely need a swing tackle and depth along the Oline. I then think in round 1 they are going for a pass rusher. But I still wouldn’t be shocked to see a reclamation project be brought in at the pass rusher position. Given the market they might be willing to try and go after a player like D.Williams last year a high performing player who is coming off multiple down years. nothing surprises me anymore with Bean. We really are setting up for BPA at 30, could be OL, RB, Edge, etc. Nice to not have any gaping holes to fill. We have holes for sure, but not gaping ones. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said: Not really La’al Collins, a consensus 1st round OT, played 2 seasons at LG for Dallas before moving to RT when Free retired. It’s forward thinking and you get a 5th year. We don’t even know the details of the Williams contract it may essentially be a 2 year deal. I guess I just wouldn’t rule it out if it’s BPA and it means keeping Josh upright. I undertand your line of thinking. A couple of thoughts Williams was the top RT in free agency this year. Still pretty young But drafting a OT and moving them to guard especially a ultra talented one? Yeah I could see that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I think they are genuinely in BPA territory now. Still think Greg Newsome is in play if he is there. An OT in the first 3 rounds probably not. Oh that's right. You had Newsome in the first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 hour ago, appoo said: Personally I think it's easier to find a starting guard at 30 than finding a starting EDGE rusher. So I would vote to let Feliciano go,, cut Addison, restructure Hughes + Star. Use Kumerow/Duke/Stills as your replacement for Brown on the roster (Gabe Davis is your #2). Use that 10M in cap savings to find a F/A EDGE, draft a starting guard, a DE/3T tweener, a slot corner, a speedy WR, and a TE. Unfortunately TE is likely going to go unanswered this offseason. Think EDGE is more pressing. You could actually snag Friermuth at 30, trade up into the 2nd round and grab a starting RG there. Kenny Stills is a free agent, not tied to the Bills in any way 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 I think what the last few days have shown us is that if Beane didn’t release a pending free agent player a couple of days ago like John Brown and Jefferson, then he is probably trying to resign them. If Beane knew he wasn’t going to be able to keep someone I think he would let them go now so their agent could get to work finding a new gig for them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 This makes so much sense. What Beane is doing makes sense. You cannot possible hit on all your FA and draft picks. But WHEN you get them right, keep them HERE. This small but improbable step is what grows a deep, quality team. Beane and McDermott get it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 16 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: Salary a little high, but glad they spent in on Williams and not Feliciano. Is it high? I couldn't believe it was under $30 million when I heard it on the radio. I actually said $40 million as they read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 33 minutes ago, FLFan said: I think your estimate of market value is suspect. Both were projected to fetch more in free agency. In general I think prices may be depressed this year, but I still expect when it all said and done both of these deals will look like bargains. It is much too early to tell given that FA has not even started yet. Everything I have read on Williams was that he could get $7-8M per. Milano's value was impacted by David at only $12.5M. I dont see any discount on either guy. Maybe someone would have paid them, but dont see them getting more than what we paid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: nothing surprises me anymore with Bean. We really are setting up for BPA at 30, could be OL, RB, Edge, etc. Nice to not have any gaping holes to fill. We have holes for sure, but not gaping ones. I still see edge as a massive hole and RG is a question mark if Mongo isn’t resigned. Right now I can’t see McBeane not going Edge early as I can’t see him having enough space to justify a impact signing at DE. If I had to rank the holes on the roster I would say it would be, 1- Edge Rusher 2- RG 3- Pass catcher 4- CB 5- Kick returner Now if you resign Mongo and Roberts you can take 5 off the list and move Oline back to being a depth need. I also think there are some other depth/role player needs on the roster too but that’s still not a ton of holes to fill. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 ahh, remember all the freaking out in the Milano thread about how they can't sign Williams now? The good ole days 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCuse Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 RT has been a dumpster fire for soooooo long, I wanted him back bad. Good contract for both sides. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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