Brennan Huff Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 (edited) Look guys, we need a pass rusher. You guys are weird about Von Miller, I can get it. Let’s go get Bud Dupree Edited March 1, 2021 by Brennan Huff 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said: Look guys, we need a pass rusher. You guys are weird about Von Miller, I can get it. Let’s go get Bud Dupree where would Dupree play? Seems more like your classic 3-4 OLB. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Coming off a torn acl in December 2020 or late in November, if I recall. I think he could play Jerry's spot, but huge gamble, given he's not a lock to be fully healthy by start of season. I'd pass. At some point this team needs to develop their own defensive line and stop signing FAs. Epenesa, Oliver, and an early selection this yr. Develop and cut the dead weight (ie Jefferson, Butler, Addisson), and hope Star returns to form. Then focus on finding 1-2 rotational backups 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 I'd prefer Barrett 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted March 1, 2021 Author Share Posted March 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said: Coming off a torn acl in December 2020 or late in November, if I recall. I think he could play Jerry's spot, but huge gamble, given he's not a lock to be fully healthy by start of season. I'd pass. At some point this team needs to develop their own defensive line and stop signing FAs. Epenesa, Oliver, and an early selection this yr. Develop and cut the dead weight (ie Jefferson, Butler, Addisson), and hope Star returns to form. Then focus on finding 1-2 rotational backups We have a small window. We need pass rush help now. I believe it’s our biggest need. Even with the ACL injury NFL.com has him as their #12 free agent 8 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said: I'd prefer Barrett A. He’s going to get big money B. I think he’ll stay in Tampa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 WE NEED DL BEEF MORE THAN A PASS RUSH. Bills were 6th in the NFL on QB Pressures last season. Out interior DL was pushed around and we frequently lost in the trenches. Not saying we can’t upgrade the pass rush, but we don’t have a ton of money to spend, and we MUST shore up the interior line with some size or we won’t see much change in our defense next year. It makes everyone’s jobs easier when you have space eaters taking on multiple blockers. 4 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 11 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said: I'd prefer Barrett I'm sure Tampa will franchise Barrett again if can't get a long term deal worked out before start of free agency. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 I’d like to see a veteran come in and help. Someone like Carlos Dunlap or if cut Chandler Jones. Someone who plays on the line who can rush and help with the run 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: WE NEED DL BEEF MORE THAN A PASS RUSH. Bills were 6th in the NFL on QB Pressures last season. Out interior DL was pushed around and we frequently lost in the trenches. Not saying we can’t upgrade the pass rush, but we don’t have a ton of money to spend, and we MUST shore up the interior line with some size or we won’t see much change in our defense next year. It makes everyone’s jobs easier when you have space eaters taking on multiple blockers. We have size assuming Star returns if not am sure Beane will draft a NT type. As let's not forget before we signed Butler am sure we tried to get DJ Reader. I'm sure Beane knows we still have a hole there assuming we cut Butler. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: WE NEED DL BEEF MORE THAN A PASS RUSH. Bills were 6th in the NFL on QB Pressures last season. Out interior DL was pushed around and we frequently lost in the trenches. Not saying we can’t upgrade the pass rush, but we don’t have a ton of money to spend, and we MUST shore up the interior line with some size or we won’t see much change in our defense next year. It makes everyone’s jobs easier when you have space eaters taking on multiple blockers. What is your free agent wish list and/or draft picks (realistic options based on where we pick)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: We have size assuming Star returns if not am sure Beane will draft a NT type. As let's not forget before we signed Butler am sure we tried to get DJ Reader. I'm sure Beane knows we still have a hole there assuming we cut Butler. I am glad Star should be back, but his year off at his age concerns me to wear I’m not sold he can be the solution, although I hope he is. If we don’t get size in there, I expect more of the same issues on defense is the problem. So my top priority is the interior line where we got dominated a lot. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not against upgrading the pass rush, I’m just way more concerned about getting shoved around in the middle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Go get Fletcher Cox. He was still dominant last year and has no injury history. 2 years $33m left on his contract. Gotta imagine he doesn’t wanna waste his last couple good years in a rebuild situation. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: Go get Fletcher Cox. He was still dominant last year and has no injury history. 2 years $33m left on his contract. Gotta imagine he doesn’t wanna waste his last couple good years in a rebuild situation. The Bills are trying to reduce salary because Josh Allen going to get big time money in 2 years. Cox is a nice add but at what cost? A high draft pick that might be cheaper and better long term option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 18 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: I’d like to see a veteran come in and help. Someone like Carlos Dunlap or if cut Chandler Jones. Someone who plays on the line who can rush and help with the run They gotta get younger at DE... Now they have missed Watt, I would be in favour of bringing in a guy on his second contract... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: What is your free agent wish list and/or draft picks (realistic options based on where we pick)? Draft really depends on FA...especially if Milano leaves. I think there is a significant chance we go CB or OL round 1. However, if Milano leaves and we dont sign his replacement, LB becomes a very high priority. DT or Najee Harris could be in play there too, but I think it’s less likely. FA/Trades: I think guys like Leonard Williams, Dalvin Tomlinson, and Shelby Harris will be watched closely by Beane. I can see us adding a TE as well. Im not saying pass rush help won’t be looked at or added, but I think our two biggest issues are size/strength up front and controlling the LOS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 I'd be happy with Dupree, he would bring help to our pass rush. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: We have size assuming Star returns if not am sure Beane will draft a NT type. As let's not forget before we signed Butler am sure we tried to get DJ Reader. I'm sure Beane knows we still have a hole there assuming we cut Butler. Star may be the smallest “space eater” in the history of space eaters and isn’t all that impactful when he’s on the field. We truly need a Ted “Mt.” Washington type. Look at this picture, Sapp was nearly the same size as Star. Edited March 1, 2021 by JayBaller10 3 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: They gotta get younger at DE... Now they have missed Watt, I would be in favour of bringing in a guy on his second contract... Carl Lawson likely won't break the bank and has youth on his side yet is he a good enough pass rusher to start? Maybe not if so then Romeo Okwara likely the best young guy out there IMO. Yet he might be out of our price range as with use on his side some team desperate for pass rush could sign him, I could see New England getting him if Patricia liked him in Detroit. 2 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: I'd be happy with Dupree, he would bring help to our pass rush. I agree as think he could be a replacement for what we lost in LorAx so put him at SLB, keep Edmunds at MLB and play Klein at WLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 56 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said: Look guys, we need a pass rusher. You guys are weird about Von Miller, I can get it. Let’s go get Bud Dupree I am one hundred percent on board with this. The guy is a fantastic pass rusher, and at 6'5 270 he has the size to play in both odd and even front schemes. However, the worry about him coming off the ACL is real. As such, I think you have to be realistic on what you'd offer for him. Given the injury I wouldnt want the Bills to do over 10.5 a year. If he gets that and more you let someone else take the risk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Carl Lawson likely won't break the bank and has youth on his side yet is he a good enough pass rusher to start? Maybe not if so then Romeo Okwara likely the best young guy out there IMO. Yet he might be out of our price range as with use on his side some team desperate for pass rush could sign him, I could see New England getting him if Patricia liked him in Detroit. Not sure about Lawson or Okwara to be honest.. although they would be cheaper options... How about throwing caution to the wind and bringing in Ngakoue? I know .I know ... $15m per year... (minimum)... Edited March 1, 2021 by Aussie Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Brennan Huff said: Look guys, we need a pass rusher. You guys are weird about Von Miller, I can get it. Let’s go get Bud Dupree Since we didn't get JJ my heart is now set on trading for the younger and sexier TJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted March 1, 2021 Author Share Posted March 1, 2021 15 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said: Since we didn't get JJ my heart is now set on trading for the younger and sexier TJ Awkward 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Solomon Grundy said: I’d like to see a veteran come in and help. Someone like Carlos Dunlap or if cut Chandler Jones. Someone who plays on the line who can rush and help with the run Yes to Chandler Jones..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Yes to Chandler Jones..... I know you didn’t have the original comment but why on earth would Arizona cut chandler now? Got to think a huge reason watt chose them was pairing up with Jones rushing the passer. Reddick is probably gone but I can’t see why they’d cut Jones. He’d be a prime restructure guy for their cap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted March 1, 2021 Author Share Posted March 1, 2021 I don’t know why you’d bring in Watt just to cut Jones. That doesn’t make sense to me 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 13 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: I know you didn’t have the original comment but why on earth would Arizona cut chandler now? Got to think a huge reason watt chose them was pairing up with Jones rushing the passer. Reddick is probably gone but I can’t see why they’d cut Jones. He’d be a prime restructure guy for their cap. Just sayin since we are dreamin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Maybe on a 1 year prove it deal. Late in the year knee injury is tough. I think Buffalo needs to isolate a player or 2. Reguardless of position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 The first question in the algorithm should be "Is he healthy? (Y/N)" This isn't the year to give out rich contracts to seriously injured players. I'd argue no year is great for that, but this is a penny-pinching year where the dollar will be stretched to breaking point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Not sure about Lawson or Okwara to be honest.. although they would be cheaper options... How about throwing caution to the wind and bringing in Ngakoue? I know .I know ... $15m per year... (minimum)... Ngakoue completely disappeared after being traded to Baltimore. I think he's a good not great pass rusher yet think will get overpaid for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 2 hours ago, JayBaller10 said: Star may be the smallest “space eater” in the history of space eaters and isn’t all that impactful when he’s on the field. We truly need a Ted “Mt.” Washington type. Look at this picture, Sapp was nearly the same size as Star. I miss big #92 on our DL... Him lined up with Sam Adams in the red, white and blue was a thing of total beauty! You didn't run on us back then, that's for sure! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Brennan Huff said: Look guys, we need a pass rusher. You guys are weird about Von Miller, I can get it. Let’s go get Bud Dupree Was Bud one of those contract year phenoms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Was Bud one of those contract year phenoms? Can Bud produce without Watt on the other side or Heyward being a monster? I’d be more worried he’s a product of mismatches cause they have 2 elite guys in the front 7 which we do not 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DCOrange Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 3 hours ago, The Jokeman said: I'm sure Tampa will franchise Barrett again if can't get a long term deal worked out before start of free agency. All reports are that Tampa will most likely be franchise tagging Chris Godwin while trying to sign both Godwin and Shaq to long-term contracts. But long story short, Barrett likely will not be tagged. 25 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: Can Bud produce without Watt on the other side or Heyward being a monster? I’d be more worried he’s a product of mismatches cause they have 2 elite guys in the front 7 which we do not That plus the coverage. Bud has statistically struggled in terms of beating his man 1 on 1; he just racks up coverage sacks/cleans plays up after someone else gets the initial pressure. I wouldn't touch Dupree personally. Watt was the top option out there IMO, but there's still a lot of good options depending on how much we're willing to spend. Clowney, Leonard Floyd, and Trey Hendrickson are all pretty versatile, being good pass-rushers in addition to being solid against the run. Guys like Carl Lawson or Ngakoue might offer more as pass-rushers but are liabilities in the run game but they still are worth considering. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted March 1, 2021 Author Share Posted March 1, 2021 20 minutes ago, DCOrange said: All reports are that Tampa will most likely be franchise tagging Chris Godwin while trying to sign both Godwin and Shaq to long-term contracts. But long story short, Barrett likely will not be tagged. That plus the coverage. Bud has statistically struggled in terms of beating his man 1 on 1; he just racks up coverage sacks/cleans plays up after someone else gets the initial pressure. I wouldn't touch Dupree personally. Watt was the top option out there IMO, but there's still a lot of good options depending on how much we're willing to spend. Clowney, Leonard Floyd, and Trey Hendrickson are all pretty versatile, being good pass-rushers in addition to being solid against the run. Guys like Carl Lawson or Ngakoue might offer more as pass-rushers but are liabilities in the run game but they still are worth considering. I’d still bring in Clowney. Maybe even before Dupree. But you would absolutely get destroyed on here for that thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 3 hours ago, JayBaller10 said: Star may be the smallest “space eater” in the history of space eaters and isn’t all that impactful when he’s on the field. We truly need a Ted “Mt.” Washington type. Look at this picture, Sapp was nearly the same size as Star. Star is a DTaint. Definitely not big or physical enough to anchor as a nose and not athletic enough to be a good 1 tech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Maybe they can get Dupree on a prove it and sign a more important piece in Tomlinson. I don't think that Star coming back is the answer at all to adding beef in the middle of the DL. Just now, njbuff said: Maybe they can get Dupree on a prove it deal and sign a more important piece in Tomlinson. I don't think that Star coming back is the answer at all to adding beef in the middle of the DL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 hour ago, TheFunPolice said: I miss big #92 on our DL... Him lined up with Sam Adams in the red, white and blue was a thing of total beauty! You didn't run on us back then, that's for sure! It was Pat Williams that you are thinking about. They formed "the package". That defense was instantly stout but almost entirely because of Ted Washington. Pat Williams without a stud run defender was not good against the run. They added Adams and had a brief run where they were mostly very good but they just didn't have the power or the heart of those Bills DL's of the late 90's. When push came to shove.......like in the win or go home finale against Pittsburgh....... they got shoved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 lol you guys talking about players that will cost close to if not some over 20 million a season lol. Aim smaller 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 (edited) #48 is a jinx, Roosevelt leaked all over the field Edited March 2, 2021 by HOUSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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