PrimeTime101 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, gobills404 said: Barry McCockiner strikes again yep got me good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 27 minutes ago, HOUSE said: They could be after Matt Barkley too . How many first rounders do you think we get??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, TBBills said: I heard Houston is in the lead for getting Watson. he wants nothing to do with Houston.. he deleted all accounts, all multi media.. any hope of talks fell through... not a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Just now, PrimeTime101 said: he wants nothing to do with Houston.. he deleted all accounts, all multi media.. any hope of talks fell through... not a chance. Think everything went over your head today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 houston would really cement themselves as the worst organization if they traded watson to this fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 We can always trade Allen, Diggs & Shooter McGavin to stock up on draft picks while also getting Watson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, Doc said: I'm all for giving the Dols and their fans false hope in potentially landing Watson. And in the process, alienating Tua. You don’t think they have a chance to get him? idk....Miami and the Jets have the best resources to offer up for him. Considering QBs of his ability are NEVER available, I think one of them eventually caves and offers 4-5 first rd picks. I know I would. They ain’t **** without a star QB, especially when we have 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, TBBills said: Think everything went over your head today... guess so lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, NewEra said: You don’t think they have a chance to get him? idk....Miami and the Jets have the best resources to offer up for him. Considering QBs of his ability are NEVER available, I think one of them eventually caves and offers 4-5 first rd picks. I know I would. They ain’t **** without a star QB, especially when we have 17. They do that and we won't have to worry as much b.c they will be getting a new front office in a couple years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, NewEra said: You don’t think they have a chance to get him? idk....Miami and the Jets have the best resources to offer up for him. Considering QBs of his ability are NEVER available, I think one of them eventually caves and offers 4-5 first rd picks. I know I would. They ain’t **** without a star QB, especially when we have 17. I don't believe it's a matter of resources: it's a matter of not trading him within the conference. I also think that with their new GM coming from Cheaterland, he especially wouldn't want to trade him within the AFCE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, NewEra said: You don’t think they have a chance to get him? idk....Miami and the Jets have the best resources to offer up for him. Considering QBs of his ability are NEVER available, I think one of them eventually caves and offers 4-5 first rd picks. I know I would. They ain’t **** without a star QB, especially when we have 17. Jets have more picks early this year and they can get good pick for what what they have now. Its going to bite back and forth... best bidder... one thing for sure its not Watsons choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: Jets have more picks early this year and they can get good pick for what what they have now. Its going to bite back and forth... best bidder... one thing for sure its not Watsons choice He does have that Veto Pen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Just now, ScottLaw said: Why wouldn't he want to trade them to the AFC East. They are in the AFC South.... I think best bidder outside the AFC South will get him. Perhaps a team in the NFC is close enough to what an AFC team is offering and they go that route. Because Caserio came from the Cheaters. Again if they do trade him, I expect it to be to the NFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 57 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: Didn't he just get traded to the Bears? You're basing this on a Twitter account called @UltraWeedHater, labeled "Not SportsCenter"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: You're basing this on a Twitter account called @UltraWeedHater, labeled "Not SportsCenter"? I realize this is completely fake but man I’d love to see him traded to the bears. Anywhere but the AFC and Im good lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Just now, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I realize this is completely fake but man I’d love to see him traded to the bears. Anywhere but the AFC and Im good lol Especially not to Miami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: He does have that Veto Pen lol he will just be happy being out of Houston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Doc said: I don't believe it's a matter of resources: it's a matter of not trading him within the conference. I also think that with their new GM coming from Cheaterland, he especially wouldn't want to trade him within the AFCE. Maybe so. If they offer 2 more 1st rd picks than the next highest nfc bidder, they would be even more foolish than by trading him Edited February 21, 2021 by NewEra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Oh I miss the days when people had a sense of humor........................ everything is so darn serious now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 1 hour ago, TBBills said: They do that and we won't have to worry as much b.c they will be getting a new front office in a couple years. We would most definitely have to worry about them next year and the year after and the year after and the year after. The NFL landscape changes quickly. Acquiring and elite Qb is usually a franchises best chance at securing long term success. Sucks for Houston that they screwed this up so bad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 10 hours ago, ScottLaw said: Yea I don’t buy that at all. If the Jets or Fins have the best offer he’s not going to say “well I used to work for the Patriots and I don’t want to screw them over.” We'll agree to disagree. Again my belief is that if they do trade him, it will only be to an NFC team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Doc said: We'll agree to disagree. Again my belief is that if they do trade him, it will only be to an NFC team. I agree. Teams are afraid to trade WR's inside the conference. Multiply that fear by 10 when it comes to the QB position. Trade a QB out of conference and you only see them once every four years. Inside the conference and it's once every three years at minimum and possibly every year for a sequence of a few years and possibly the playoffs. It's a really hard pill to swallow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 On 2/21/2021 at 11:30 AM, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: I agree. Teams are afraid to trade WR's inside the conference. Multiply that fear by 10 when it comes to the QB position. Trade a QB out of conference and you only see them once every four years. Inside the conference and it's once every three years at minimum and possibly every year for a sequence of a few years and possibly the playoffs. It's a really hard pill to swallow. Unless you know the QB really sucks. You can trade him within the division and make it a win-win, like when Belichick fleeced the Bills with Brain Dead Drew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Is Cesario an inside job? Trade Watson to NE, end up back there when he gets fired (and collects the rest of his contract) in a year or two. Any other team I would say that's insane... But NE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 My guess is he ends up in Carolina. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 On 2/21/2021 at 11:30 AM, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: I agree. Teams are afraid to trade WR's inside the conference. Multiply that fear by 10 when it comes to the QB position. Trade a QB out of conference and you only see them once every four years. Inside the conference and it's once every three years at minimum and possibly every year for a sequence of a few years and possibly the playoffs. It's a really hard pill to swallow. Maybe more than every 4 years with the 17th game added now which will be out of conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 26 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: My guess is he ends up in Carolina. If he is only open to going to the Jets, Dolphins, and Panthers as reports suggest, its the only place that makes sense for the Texans. You cannot cannot trade him within the conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 2 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: If he is only open to going to the Jets, Dolphins, and Panthers as reports suggest, its the only place that makes sense for the Texans. You cannot cannot trade him within the conference. I don’t think the report was all inclusive of where he would approve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 He must REALLY hate the Texans if he’s willing to be traded to the Jets. Ownership is just as bad as Houston, if not worse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 For Wat$on better the devil you do not know than the devil you willingly signed extension from. He appears to be following the Le'Veon Bell model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: Is this your belief or is this just what hope happens if he is traded? It's both. Why I believe they won't trade him in the AFC is because the Bills were looking to trade for Hopkins and had a better pick than what the Texans ultimately accepted from the Cardinals. The only reason that made sense was to get him out of the AFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 9 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: My guess is he ends up in Carolina. I think it depends if Carolina can flip McCaffery for serious draft compensation. Let's say they can get a pair of firsts for CMC which given how teams are throwing around firsts is totally possible. If Indy gives the Panthers pick 21 and a 2022 first I can see the Panthers giving up the following type deal. Picks 8, 21 (via the Colts for CMC), 39 and their 5th rounder in 2021. Carolina's 1st and Indy's 1st (Via CMC trade) in 2022. Bridgewater as a throw in if they want him or another player on their roster if they like I think that's not too shabby for the Texans to get 4 first round picks, a high 2nd round pick, a decent stop gap QB and something else on the roster they like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Doc said: It's both. Why I believe they won't trade him in the AFC is because the Bills were looking to trade for Hopkins and had a better pick than what the Texans ultimately accepted from the Cardinals. The only reason that made sense was to get him out of the AFC. That was a different regime. Irrelevant. 10 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: I think it depends if Carolina can flip McCaffery for serious draft compensation. Let's say they can get a pair of firsts for CMC which given how teams are throwing around firsts is totally possible. If Indy gives the Panthers pick 21 and a 2022 first I can see the Panthers giving up the following type deal. Picks 8, 21 (via the Colts for CMC), 39 and their 5th rounder in 2021. Carolina's 1st and Indy's 1st (Via CMC trade) in 2022. Bridgewater as a throw in if they want him or another player on their roster if they like I think that's not too shabby for the Texans to get 4 first round picks, a high 2nd round pick, a decent stop gap QB and something else on the roster they like. Pass the pipe. With his contact, McCaffrey isn’t worth even a second round pick at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Bledsoe...it can happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 9 hours ago, mannc said: That was a different regime. Irrelevant. That trade was only one of many that highlighted teams desires to trade players or picks out of the conference rather than in the conference. Vikings and Diggs to the Bills Raiders and Mack to the Bears Raiders and Cooper to the Cowboys Patriots and Jimmy G to the 49ers Eagles and Wentz to the Colts Jets and Adams to the Seahawks The preference is to always trade a player out of conference. That said, this year presents a very unique situation because by far the two most draft capital rich teams for 2021 and 2022 are both in the AFC East. I can see the theory being put to test but I'd still wager he ends up in the NFC. Otherwise, it probably will take 4 first rounders to send him to the Jets or Dolphins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: That trade was only one of many that highlighted teams desires to trade players or picks out of the conference rather than in the conference. Vikings and Diggs to the Bills Raiders and Mack to the Bears Raiders and Cooper to the Cowboys Patriots and Jimmy G to the 49ers Eagles and Wentz to the Colts Jets and Adams to the Seahawks The preference is to always trade a player out of conference. That said, this year presents a very unique situation because by far the two most draft capital rich teams for 2021 and 2022 are both in the AFC East. I can see the theory being put to test but I'd still wager he ends up in the NFC. Otherwise, it probably will take 4 first rounders to send him to the Jets or Dolphins. I just don’t see any NFC team that has enough trade bait to make it happen, unless the Niners are going to trade a couple ones, plus Bosa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 12 hours ago, mannc said: That was a different regime. Irrelevant No, it’s really not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, Doc said: No, it’s really not. Yes, it really is. (See how that works?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 21 minutes ago, mannc said: Yes, it really is. (See how that works?) I don't see much. Just a statement from you that has no substance behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 3 hours ago, mannc said: I just don’t see any NFC team that has enough trade bait to make it happen, unless the Niners are going to trade a couple ones, plus Bosa. If I were the Texans, I’d take less from an NFC team than an AFC. Not significantly less but still less. I’d take bridgewater and three 1sts and a 2nd over the Jets four #1’s and Darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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