Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: The last person to try the whining move was Leveon Bell. He wound up losing quite a bit of money. You mean the guy who has 44 million in career earnings that is about to compete for a ring... I’m not sure he best exemplifies losing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, RoyBatty is alive said: I am one of the LAST people to defend the Texans brain trust but living down here I hear more about them than I care. They got Watson so sign an otherwise Texans=-attractive deal and one of the freebies (or so the Texans thought) they threw in for him to sign is we will never ever want you to go away. LOL. Great example of be careful what you wish for. I think that clause is something every franchise qb securing that monster second contract is going to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: I am worried about the Pats, to be honest. They went 7-9 with a garbage roster, have 10 opt-outs coming back (including Dont'a Hightower, an awesome player), 10 draft picks, and over $60 million in cap space. In an interview mid-season, Matt Light said that Belichick felt all along that this was a joke of a season given Covid (I disagree about that), and that the solution was to load up to go all in in 2021. It is the case that he's the greatest coach ever. As for QB, there are enough decent options floating around out there that I fear they'll end up with someone who is at least pretty good. The 10 opt-outs is so overblown. Most of them are equivalent to us losing EJ Gaines. They re-signing Thuney? Paying big $$$ to a QB? Cool... now they can go sign one big name WR - which they better do since they can't draft them. They do that, sure, they're a solid team. Still a team we should beat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Think you are going to be shocked. There will be a bidding war. There will be a bidding war but the cost will be maybe 70% of what it would have cost without Watson letting the world he wants out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 20 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Let me introduce everyone to Jalen Ramsey. If he can force a trade, Watson surely can. Exactly ... there’s a million different ways to do it. Point is people who want to believe that a star playing out a huge deal disgruntled is the right answer just isn’t seeing the big picture. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, RoyBatty is alive said: There will be a bidding war but the cost will be maybe 70% of what it would have cost without Watson letting the world he wants out. If there are multiple teams bidding for him, that doesn't matter. What matters is if he starts leveraging his no-trade clause to rule teams out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: I am one of the LAST people to defend the Texans brain trust but living down here I hear more about them than I care. They got Watson so sign an otherwise Texans=-attractive deal and one of the freebies (or so the Texans thought) they threw in for him to sign is we will never ever want you to go away. LOL. Great example of be careful what you wish for. I thought the idiocy was relegated to BoB. But with the Culley hire and now this, its obvious its a program wide thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, thenorthremembers said: I thought the idiocy was relegated to BoB. But with the Culley hire and now this, its obvious its a program wide thing. Its the same ownership, and all the idiocy starts there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, SCBills said: The 10 opt-outs is so overblown. Most of them are equivalent to us losing EJ Gaines. They re-signing Thuney? Paying big $$$ to a QB? Cool... now they can go sign one big name WR - which they better do since they can't draft them. They do that, sure, they're a solid team. Still a team we should beat. I think the Pats had opt outs for older guys with $ that decided if they never play again so be it, they already had a ring and 2020 was going to be a down year without Brady. Thuney they overpaid and wont tag him again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: There will be a bidding war but the cost will be maybe 70% of what it would have cost without Watson letting the world he wants out. Not sure Watson cares about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregthekeg Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, bills6969 said: please go to San Fran, please go to San Fran, please go to San Fran.😬 Or Lions... just really stay out of the NFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: There will be a bidding war but the cost will be maybe 70% of what it would have cost without Watson letting the world he wants out. Depends how many bidders. The price might start lower.... but ultimately at the end the last two teams are bidding against each other not bidding against Houston's desire or ability to keep him. He is going to fetch 3 first round picks IMO. Jamal Adams fetched two. The difference between a top 5 safety and a top 5 Quarterback is huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, WhoTom said: I have a feeling we'll be seeing him twice a year for a while. Great—get to wash the stink of last year’s WC loss out 2x a year...🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, SCBills said: The 10 opt-outs is so overblown. Most of them are equivalent to us losing EJ Gaines. They re-signing Thuney? Paying big $$$ to a QB? Cool... now they can go sign one big name WR - which they better do since they can't draft them. They do that, sure, they're a solid team. Still a team we should beat. Marcus Cannon is a great player, as is Hightower (obviously). And Patrick Chung is a vet who knows how to perform well in that scheme. They're big losses, personnel-wise. I'm not saying they would have made this year's team a playoff team, but they are good players. I do think the Bills are the team to beat in 2021 in the division, but I'm never going to underestimate Belichick. I'm just saying that they have a lot room to maneuver and have some good players coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: I thought the idiocy was relegated to BoB. But with the Culley hire and now this, its obvious its a program wide thing. I cant explain it nor will i defend it. It all start with the Ownership of the McNairs. I can tell you I meet old man MacNair, nice old guy, not at all remarkable not seem brilliant man but dedicated. He had next to no money and got on to Cogen which he rode to the top and made a fortune. Cal i have seen his act at little league, rather das tio see him getting pushed around by the obnoxious wife of his, he sits there and takes it. Neither Bob or Cal can be accused of much above a room temperature IQ. Both were very loyal and gracious, generous. Problem with Bob McNair is encapsulated in David Carr story. Carr, first pick in the draft, McNair loved him because he was a family man and Christian, he kept getting extensions because of McNairs influence. Carr, family man, great wonderful. Problem was family came first. Carr was usually the last person in the meeting and the first person out, he was the last person to be a team leader but hey a great guy and family man. That also explains this bizarre psychological hold Jack Easterby has on McNair now...Easterby is like Rasputin and the Russian Czars family....hypnotic almost like control as there world crumbles around them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 39 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said: All right, take it easy. You'll be okay no matter what happens with the QB in Houston. Correct because that QB is going to be Tua Watson will take seasons of potential division titles from us because Houston is a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Not sure Watson cares about that. Cares about it? LOL, hell no at this point he wants whatever team he goes to to pay the least hey have to . The fewer draft picks the team has to give up the better for Watson and at this point, I dont think he minds at all if Mcnair & Easterby get screwed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: I cant explain it nor will i defend it. It all start with the Ownership of the McNairs. I can tell you I meet old man MacNair, nice old guy, not at all remarkable not seem brilliant man but dedicated. He had next to no money and got on to Cogen which he rode to the top and made a fortune. Cal i have seen his act at little league, rather das tio see him getting pushed around by the obnoxious wife of his, he sits there and takes it. Neither Bob or Cal can be accused of much above a room temperature IQ. Both were very loyal and gracious, generous. Problem with Bob McNair is encapsulated in David Carr story. Carr, first pick in the draft, McNair loved him because he was a family man and Christian, he kept getting extensions because of McNairs influence. Carr, family man, great wonderful. Problem was family came first. Carr was usually the last person in the meeting and the first person out, he was the last person to be a team leader but hey a great guy and family man. That also explains this bizarre psychological hold Jack Easterby has on McNair now...Easterby is like Rasputin and the Russian Czars family....hypnotic almost like control as there world crumbles around them. Nicely done here. The Rasputin comparison is fantastic. Hopefully they get it together. Kind of praying they the Patriot ties will lead them to try and land Jimmy G in trading Watson to the 49ers. I wont be able to suffer Watson in the AFC East. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessYaDigg Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, WhoTom said: I have a feeling we'll be seeing him twice a year for a while. Who cares. The Jets and Dolphins have to deal with Josh Allen twice a year. I like our chances better! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, ProcessYaDigg said: Who cares. The Jets and Dolphins have to deal with Josh Allen twice a year. I like our chances better! I care. I was at the horrid Bills=-Texans game. The Texans were close to dead, as was the home crowd. IMO, there was on man that wasnt yet defeated nor gave up, that was Deshaun Watson. I would hate to to Wqtson with the Jets or Dolphins. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 23 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: There will be a bidding war but the cost will be maybe 70% of what it would have cost without Watson letting the world he wants out. And that’s to Watson’s advantage; means his new team won’t have to cripple itself to acquire him... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 I would never trade for a player that can't address problems privately. We will hear more from this guy down the line, never fails 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Sounds like Watson is most likely heading to Miami. Also Stafford is also on Miami’s radar in case they don’t get Watson. But there was a lot of talk at the senior bowl where Flores is coaching at and he wants Watson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Watson is a punk. Going gets tough and the baby wants a trade. Theyve been good since hes been there besides this year. Now we will pay for it cause it feels inevitable miami is going to get him. Hopefully someone has a brain in that organization and trades him out of conference 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/amp/report_dolphins_seen_as_front_runner_for_texans_qb_deshaun_watson/s1_13132_33939173 So Tua is going to Houston I take it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 19 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Great—get to wash the stink of last year’s WC loss out 2x a year...🤔 now just need an AFC East team to somehow nab DeAndre Hopkins 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Nicely done here. The Rasputin comparison is fantastic. Hopefully they get it together. Kind of praying they the Patriot ties will lead them to try and land Jimmy G in trading Watson to the 49ers. I wont be able to suffer Watson in the AFC East. It doesn't matter. 49ers can offer 8 firsts. This is officially Watson's choice. He holds final say. He's going to Miami. Welcome to the NBANFL Edited January 28, 2021 by Big Blitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, HOUSE said: I would never trade for a player that can't address problems privately. We will hear more from this guy down the line, never fails Watson was a true team player this year. One of the best QBs on a terrible team never complained. Watson really should have started to complain the day after Hopkins was traded away, everything after that was like a snowball rolling down a hill gaining speed till it starts an avalanche. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, H2o said: Wait until they trade Watt too. There will be a million fan march when they get rid of both Watson and JJ after trading Nuk last year. Watt might want to go play with his brothers in Pittsburgh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Watson was a true team player this year. One of the best QBs on a terrible team never complained. Watson really should have started to complain the day after Hopkins was traded away, everything after that was like a snowball rolling down a hill gaining speed till it starts an avalanche. I see your points but he ran to the media and embarrassed the Texans. Right or wrong you can't have a team leader doing this. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 I say Jets or Niners makes most sense. Jets have four first round picks in the next two drafts, including second overall. They can make the trade for Watson and still have plenty of picks to help rebuild their roster. SF would have to trade two firsts plus a young star player or two... 1 minute ago, HOUSE said: I see your points but he ran to the media and embarrassed the Texans. Right or wrong you can't have a team leader doing this. You have absolutely no idea what went on there. He may have been entirely justified. What we do know is that since the day he was drafted, Watson has been a great player and a model citizen. We also know that the Texans are run by morons. So draw your own conclusions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/amp/report_dolphins_seen_as_front_runner_for_texans_qb_deshaun_watson/s1_13132_33939173 So Tua is going to Houston I take it According to Miami - miami is the frontrunner. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Could be back to the '90's w/ the Bills and Phins competing annually for the division title. Hope the outcome is the same there. The silver lining is that the Patriots will have a hard time getting past 3rd place for quite a few years, especially if BB ends up retiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Houston should not take Tua as part of the trade. They should only accept draft choices & draft a QB of their own choosing at 3. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Miami certainly has the draft capital to do it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: Houston should not take Tua as part of the trade. They should only accept draft choices & draft a QB of their own choosing at 3. Good point. It all depends on what they think of Tua. I’m not sure why the Texans would be excited to get him, but who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, TPS said: Miami certainly has the draft capital to do it. Yeah. They got most of it from Houston in the first place.😄 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 The only good thing about this situation would be all of the reaction for all of the Miami Tua stans LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, TPS said: Miami certainly has the draft capital to do it. And the cap space unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: Houston should not take Tua as part of the trade. They should only accept draft choices & draft a QB of their own choosing at 3. Maybe they see him as being good enough and want to fill their myriad of other holes at 3? Edited January 28, 2021 by Big Turk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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