Turk71 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, somnus00 said: I agree that we need a better pass rush and running game. But I feel more like the way to get there is a true CB2 (coverage leads to sacks), and better o-line play. I'd like to see us draft CB2, OL, DL. then a speedy RB. The scheme on D was so weak. A free 7 yards on every play. Safeties 20 yards off the los. I'd rather attack and risk getting burned once in a while than play a soft, scared, nonaggressive style defense. It's ineffective and demoralizing for the players, not to mention frustrating as he'll to watch. Another good cb would be great but that defensive scheme sucked. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, BeastMaster said: Gutless approach by McD and Frazier ensured our defeat. Can't beat a team of this caliber playing the way they did. The FGs were inexcusable and the gameplan was flawed, but that’s not why we lost. They have Mahomes, Hill and Kelce and we don’t. It was a wake up call. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddo Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Considering how poor we looked on both sides of the football, it's still a surprise we put up as many points as we did - even if some were garbage time points. I think we were shown that we aren't quite ready to compete at this level. We don't have enough talent yet throughout the roster, and we were lacking answers on the coaching side as well. It has still been a great season, no doubt about it, but today has left a bitter taste. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, buffalo2218 said: Those 4th and short were all on McDermott. He made those calls to kick FGs. Yeah, I would have called a designed QB run on that 3rd down. His decision to kick FGs made absolutely no sense to me That play was disappointing for sure, but their D was owning us at that point. As they did all night - receivers blanketed, Josh on the move, no run game (per usual). This just in, KC is good - gotta score, score, score... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Just now, Livinginthepast said: 1. Coaching staff had their worst game of the season. Daboll's playcalling was mediocre at best and piss poor at worst. Allen should have been used on the 4th down plays instead of FGS. Frazier and the defense looked like they didnt prepare at all, like it was 1960s NFL when teams just played their simple playbook and watched no tape on another team. How could they possible be that clueless? McD's decisions to go for FGs just handed the momentum to the chiefs every time. You are in the championship game VS the best team in the league, VS the MVP at QB. Why the hell are playing so conservative. 2. A few small plays in this game that seemed not so important at the time but I think were huge. Bass's missed PAT. Didn't matter scorewise but psychologically was a bad omen. The missed punch by the KC lineman should have been an ejection and would have really changed their defensive scheme. Singletary's drop was an absolute gut punch. He would have run for 20 yards plus on that play. It just killed their momentum and probably contributed to Josh being even more under pressure and nervous. If you think that punch was missed you are crazy, it was ignored. But I agree with your point... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, InEnemyTerritory said: This game made me feel very unhappy about our future. Mahomes, Kelce, and Hill look like they are playing a different sport than anyone else, and all of them are going to be in KC for a long time. Really dislike how this Chiefs team bodes for the Bills in the future. Diggs and Allen kind of looked like that at times against other teams this year. There were multiple games where Diggs was practically mocking the opposing secondary. But I get your point, it’s the best offensive trifecta in the league. I still don’t totally trust Hill though. In addition to beating all members of his family apparently, he just has that mean nervous energy about him. He flipped out on a coach last week but it was apparently all good or whatever, and he just kind of looks like he has a screw loose after some plays, including today. Not rooting for the guy to be the next AB but I don’t know if I trust him to be a contributor for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Just now, mannc said: The FGs were inexcusable and the gameplan was flawed, but that’s not why we lost. They have Mahomes, Hill and Kelce and we don’t. It was a wake up call. Not not like we were the only team that couldn't stop them this year (or the past 3 years). Kelce is a problem for the whole league, especially this D that can't stop a TE regardless... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafioso Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: 7 minutes ago, Jester said: Why can’t we cover good tight ends? Where was our O line? What happened to the D? Coaching?? I have questions ... and I’m mad. It was a nice run but the ending sucked. Go Bills. I’ve been very critical of McDermott tonight but at least he said “we didn’t coach our best game” afterward. Respect his ability to recognize/say that even though the loss is still fresh Edited January 25, 2021 by Mafioso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 I still can't believe so many 'experts' picked KC to win. Such disrespect to our team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 The FG’s were bad in hindsight. But let me defend McD. McD is watching this offense tonight that had to work for every single yard. They were totally shut down. I think he was thinking he had to get the points he could get, hope (pray?) that the D got a stop or a TO down the stretch, and extend the game to stay within striking distance. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, mannc said: The FGs were inexcusable and the gameplan was flawed, but that’s not why we lost. They have Mahomes, Hill and Kelce and we don’t. It was a wake up call. They have an offensive line that gives Mahomes time, we gave josh squat... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said: Daboll was really dissapointing. We needed to really bring in the kitchen sink to win, and we played way to safe. We played scared..... Maybe that's why the Chargers took a rain check. All our coaches did terrible tonight. Leslie having no answer for Kelce. Sean settling for FG's against the most dynamic offense in the league. Daboll being inconsistent Daboll. It all came to a head tonight. And I'm sure Josh had his dad on his mind. We had a great season. One we haven't seen in a quarter of a century. We'll be ready next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiamioh Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Buddo said: Considering how poor we looked on both sides of the football, it's still a surprise we put up as many points as we did - even if some were garbage time points. I think we were shown that we aren't quite ready to compete at this level. We don't have enough talent yet throughout the roster, and we were lacking answers on the coaching side as well. It has still been a great season, no doubt about it, but today has left a bitter taste. This is bull####. We were 13-3, the #2 seed and waxed a bunch of good teams. We ***** laid an egg tonight and it absolutely sucks. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, buffalo2218 said: Blaming Daboll isn't accurate here. KC covered our receivers well tonight. Josh had nowhere to throw hardly. As for Frazier? I'm not sure if it was his horrid gameplan or lack of execution or both. But McDermott........twitter roasted him more than I think we could Why couldn't the top paid CB in the NFL cover KC WR's tonight. Your not going to see Deion or Revis covering a teams 2nd or 3rd passing options. White needs to cover Hill and Kelce should have be bracketed. Edmunds was pure garbage tonight, he makes the pro bowl look like a shut show. Oliver was a major waste of space in this game and our O-line needs major upgrades in the interior. Anyone who thinks we are 1 good draft and FA away for beating KC is smoking some good *****. We need some major upgrades to even be close to challenging KC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 The Bills were good most of the season when they got deep in enemy territory. But Daboll could not dial up anything tonight when the field tightened up. If he had this would have been a shoot-out. Maybe we still lose...But it would have been a lot closer. 😎 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Evidently, Mc D did NOT watch the Kyle Brandt pump up vids..... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 The thing that burns me more than anything is that the Browns gave KC more of a game than we did. KC didn't move the ball at will against them like they did us. Beane saw that we needed a playmaking WR and got him last year. Who does he decide to go after this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafioso Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, Heitz said: That play was disappointing for sure, but their D was owning us at that point. As they did all night - receivers blanketed, Josh on the move, no run game (per usual). This just in, KC is good - gotta score, score, score... Hence why we shouldn’t have settled for FG’s...kiss of death against the Chiefs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Well the bright side I think is that this loss will do more for Josh and his development than a win would. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Heitz said: That play was disappointing for sure, but their D was owning us at that point. As they did all night - receivers blanketed, Josh on the move, no run game (per usual). This just in, KC is good - gotta score, score, score... Yep. We actually would have been better off trying to run the ball more, take time off the clock and prevent KC defense from pinning their ears back. Rumors that Josh Allen kills the blitz are greatly exaggerated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, Heitz said: That play was disappointing for sure, but their D was owning us at that point. As they did all night - receivers blanketed, Josh on the move, no run game (per usual). This just in, KC is good - gotta score, score, score... KC commiting defensive holding and illegal contact downfield all game and getting away with it. No surprise the whistles have been put away in the playoffs. Bills receivers were not ready for that. Needed to have a better plan. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Just now, KOKBILLS said: The Bills were good most of the season when they got deep in enemy territory. But Daboll could not dial up anything tonight when the field tightened up. If he had this would have been a shoot-out. Maybe we still lose...But it would have been a lot closer. 😎 That INT was a gut punch too. We need that and like 2 stops from D to have a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97bills Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 24 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said: Final thoughts: Team was not ready. No ability to count on RB1 for plays. Singletary is a huge issue. Need a Tyreek Hill type guy. Coaches...terrible gameplan on D. Terrible situational football. Going for FGs versus the chiefs is not a good plan. Playcalling uncreative and bland. If your going to play the bend but but dont break, you've got to stiffen up and make some plays....generate turnovers or get stops on 4th and short, force FGs even. Bills had no answer for Mahomes. Need a stud pass rusher. Josh was not the reason we lost. No time to throw. Oline played bad...team loss. Yep a stud pass rushers gets you turnovers and sacks I think D line and running back is our biggest need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafioso Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Just now, Big Turk said: KC commiting defensive holding and illegal contact downfield all game and getting away with it. No surprise the whistles have been put away in the playoffs. Bills receivers were not ready for that. Needed to have a better plan. Stop. Bills were completely dominated all game. The Chiefs even gave us a free TD and it wasn’t even close. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, Heitz said: Not not like we were the only team that couldn't stop them this year (or the past 3 years). Kelce is a problem for the whole league, especially this D that can't stop a TE regardless... In the last 30 years, I bet we’ve given up more passing yards to TEs than any other franchise. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Just now, RichRiderBills said: That INT was a gut punch too. We need that and like 2 stops from D to have a shot. Yep...There was an awful lot that went wrong tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billschinatown Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Thanks for the great year guys. Thanks mods. Thanks to yolo specifically for all the updates. See y’all next year. Was a good run. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFBillsfan Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 I can accept a loss to KC but it’s how they lost and the decisions by our coaching staff that I’m struggling with. Activating GB over Stills was just assinine. Even Kroft would have been helpful to the offense tonight. You knew you needed points but you severely limited the receiving core. Allen is a stud but he SHOULD NOT be your running game. Daboll tried to outsmart them by highlighting DV and Knox. KC will take that all day. Bills look ill prepared and Daboll’s playcalling in the red zone was beyond pathetic tonight. He had no response to adjust to KC’s blitzing. Frazier let KC run free untouched all night. It was an easy game of pitch and catch. Mahomes was not sacked or really pressured the entire game. You just sat back and let them have easy 10 yard completions. Expected so much more from the coaching staff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reroka Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Hey all great game, You all do have a great QB and I am sure you will be in the running year in and year out. Congrats on making it this far. Good luck next year. Please give me a link so I can donate to Josh Allen's foundation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Big Turk said: KC commiting defensive holding and illegal contact downfield all game and getting away with it. No surprise the whistles have been put away in the playoffs. Bills receivers were not ready for that. Needed to have a better plan. Same case for early game. Only holds PI called were totally obvious ones with elongated shirt grabs....etc... League needs to be consistant here! Edited January 25, 2021 by RichRiderBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 22 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: Two turning points to me was when Chris Jones punched Mongo and nothing happened. Can't let them punk you there. I do understand that they're trying to play discipline, but you have to establish your turf. Singletary drops screen pass. Team lost momentum. Next play he should’ve been buried. Holding call or not. Straight double team and maul him. Bring the tight end out of the backfield and triple team him if you have too. we played soft and looked scared all game. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said: They have an offensive line that gives Mahomes time, we gave josh squat... True, but Mahomes is more elusive than Josh and they have a much better pass rush than we do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, mannc said: Yep. We actually would have been better off trying to run the ball more, take time off the clock and prevent KC defense from pinning their ears back. Rumors that Josh Allen kills the blitz are greatly exaggerated. Allen did do well against the blitz during the year, but the way our receivers were covered tonight......there wasn't much he could do. He waited too long too many times for someone to get open. I think he should have tried rolling out to his left just to try to throw off their gameplan Edited January 25, 2021 by buffalo2218 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Just now, Mafioso said: Stop. Bills were completely dominated all game. The Chiefs even gave us a free TD and it wasn’t even close. What is more likely? That KCs average at best secondary suddenly became the 2000 Ravens overnight, or that they were playing on the other side of the line most of the game? The simplest explanation is usually the right one. 1 minute ago, TFBillsfan said: I can accept a loss to KC but it’s how they lost and the decisions by our coaching staff that I’m struggling with. Activating GB over Stills was just assinine. Even Kroft would have been helpful to the offense tonight. You knew you needed points but you severely limited the receiving core. Allen is a stud but he SHOULD NOT be your running game. Daboll tried to outsmart them by highlighting DV and Knox. KC will take that all day. Bills look ill prepared and Daboll’s playcalling in the red zone was beyond pathetic tonight. He had no response to adjust to KC’s blitzing. Frazier let KC run free untouched all night. It was an easy game of pitch and catch. Mahomes was not sacked or really pressured the entire game. You just sat back and let them have easy 10 yard completions. Expected so much more from the coaching staff! Where were the tunnel screens that burned teams on the blitz so often this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 23 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I do also think we saw John Browns last game as a Bill. He brings Nothing Gabe Davis doesn’t. Replace him with speed in the Draft. Brown is actually one of the fastest players on the team. Davis is not even close in speed. Brown he may be gone because of salary and injuries, but he brings speed and experience that will need to be replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 24 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said: It's crazy, but that was a HUGE momentum shifter. I knew the game was over right then lol I was sitting right in that corner of the field and he had so much running room...just can't make mistakes like that against the chiefs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2zipper Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 The defensive scheme was correct but offensively Buffalo was too one-dimensional this year. The only gameplan that works against the Chiefs is to shorten the game, but Buffalo didn't have the offense to do it this season because they can't run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 18 minutes ago, Beast said: The difference today was speed. Buffalo couldn't match up with KC's speed on either side of the ball. Tackling and attitude too. KC was playing a lot of man, but if anyone catches the ball they don't miss the tackle. Our defense has been plagued with poor tacking all season, allowing huge RAC. They were willing to cheap shot Allen and hit him late, they punched our offense in the mouth and McD had these guys so scared of taking penalties that we tipped over into the B word zone. Should have laid some late hits on Mahomes and pointed at their d-line on the sideline, "Got the message?". You hit our QB late, we hit yours. Then that nonsense would have stopped... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Just now, buffalo2218 said: Allen did do well against the blitz during the year, but the way our receivers were covered tonight......there wasn't much he could do. He waited too long too many times for a someone to get open. I think he should have tried rolling out to his left just to try to throw off their gameplan Something was going on—guys were just not getting open. I thought Romo was right on point—everything was too hard for Buffalo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Schopp is disgusting right now. Like he just knows the league, the guy who watches ZERO film and can’t name half the players on the field. Same with Bulldog, just rolls out of bed with no preparation and broadcasts out of his attic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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