syhuang Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) It's always nice to learn something new about NFL rules. Tucker's first FG hit the left upright, crossed the plane, but returned back through the goalposts, which according to NFL rules is still counted as unsuccessful. The spin on the ball does tricky things. --------------------------------------- Justin Tucker's first missed FG vs. Bills actually went in - before it didn't Using advanced technology to track the football, Lopez found that on Tucker's first miss, the 41-yard double doink, that the ball actually crossed over the bottom goalpost before moving back towards the right upright and eventually hitting it. So, why didn't it count? In order for the try to be successful, the entire football must pass through the vertical plane between the two uprights. If the ball does so, but then returns through the goalposts without hitting another object, person or the ground, the try is unsuccessful, according to the NFL's rulebook. Edited January 21, 2021 by syhuang 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 So close to being...17-6. 3 1 20 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAinLack. Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 What the ball has to do in this explanation belongs in "bazarro world"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BfloBillsFan Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 I'm pretty sure physicist have proven home run throwback was a forward pass too! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Didn’t break the plane of the giant L though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobillswin Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Sweet karma for incorrectly calling Bass' week 1 fg a miss. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) Using my advanced technology to track the football (my eyeballs) the ball boinked off the upright and came back out to the front of the goal posts into the end zone. Not sure where this new "technology" is coming from. My guess is it's from Justin Tucker's mother. Edited January 21, 2021 by Inigo Montoya 2 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOKIE Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 So, if the ball does not go through the goal posts it doesn't count. News breaking stuff right there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Didnt Bass miss 2 kick aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costrovs Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) No offense, but I think who ever made this graph might just be making stuff up. Did it actually cross the plane? This "graph" says it did. But it also shows that the other field goal didn't even hit the cross bar. Just sayin'. Edit: not to mention, the purple line in each graph is different. Edited January 21, 2021 by costrovs add more 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 We always kinda knew that since we only counted it if the ball ended up on the other side, no? The big news for me here was that someone checked to see if it broke the plane or not even when it did not end up going thru the uprights. Just someone with a lot of spare time I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, BUFFALOKIE said: So, if the ball does not go through the goal posts it doesn't count. News breaking stuff right there. Or......if it does go thru but gets spit back out! The Football Gods were having NONE OF THAT! On to Kansas City....... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Does the same principle apply to the Rams "interception" of the Knox catch that wasn't? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 48 minutes ago, syhuang said: It's always nice to learn something new about NFL rules. Tucker's first FG hit the left upright, crossed the plane, but returned back through the goalposts, which according to NFL rules is still counted as unsuccessful. The spin on the ball does tricky things. --------------------------------------- Justin Tucker's first missed FG vs. Bills actually went in - before it didn't Using advanced technology to track the football, Lopez found that on Tucker's first miss, the 41-yard double doink, that the ball actually crossed over the bottom goalpost before moving back towards the right upright and eventually hitting it. So, why didn't it count? In order for the try to be successful, the entire football must pass through the vertical plane between the two uprights. If the ball does so, but then returns through the goalposts without hitting another object, person or the ground, the try is unsuccessful, according to the NFL's rulebook. From the TV broadcast, it looked like he hit the upright and doinked it through. So glad that he missed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Breaking news... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 sure, why not 1 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Ralonzo said: sure, why not Now that you mention it, I think there's footage of a lone windman on the astroturfy knoll... 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 The Refs said No Good oh well 🤷♂️ Through meaning passing through and landing between and behind the posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, Ralonzo said: sure, why not I wish I could give this more than one emoji. I laughed out loud... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 30 minutes ago, BUFFALOKIE said: So, if the ball does not go through the goal posts it doesn't count. News breaking stuff right there. i get your snark, but i think the upshot is that the ball has to end up through the goal posts. Unless interfered with by a player, or hitting the ground beyond the posts and boinking back thru, or something like lightning hitting it or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Tucker looked like a bad kicker in the windy Buffalo winter night. He simply couldn’t handle the wind & he lost his confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 If that first one goes through the entire game is different: butterfly effect type thing. They go up 3-0, instead of us getting the ball there, Balt kicks off. The rest is history, no telling what happens. Taron Johnson is likely never in position for a pick six. Maybe our offense hits on a couple more plays. no telling...but it sure was amazing that he doinked em both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Dr.Sack said: Tucker looked like a bad kicker in the windy Buffalo winter night. He simply couldn’t handle the wind & he lost his confidence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 I was expecting video evidence instead I get some peanut head from UMass's diagrams T Bass wants his first FG back 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Ralonzo said: sure, why not Back and to the left. That is one magic loogie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 7 hours ago, Ralonzo said: sure, why not And you thought 'Home Run Throwback', 'No Goal', and 'Wide Right' were too soon. 😕😳 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 And in other news, Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 7 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: Back and to the left. That is one magic loogie. A classic! 9 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: The Refs said No Good oh well 🤷♂️ Through meaning passing through and landing between and behind the posts Can you imagine the blow-back if an official said, "It crossed the plane, and came back out, so it is good." The world would go mad, like storm the Capital mad. Twitter would be shut down with conspiracy theories. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 I crossed the plane trying to read that post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 It’s funny. Everyone can poke fun at this thread but during the game I was screaming at the TV, wondering what the heck two refs were checking with each other about...waiting to get screwed in true Bills fashion. The ball obviously hit the post. They could hear it. The ball obviously landed in the blue paint of the end zone. They could see it. Now we know what they were checking on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) There are some rules in the NFL that i have always had a hard time understanding !! If the ball crosses the plain of the goal line it's a TD if the person holding the ball crosses the plain and the ball doesn't but his feet or any other body part touches the end zone and the ball doesn't cross the plain it's not a TD . But then if the ball crosses the plain of the goal post and comes back out it's not a FG ? You have to keep control of the ball going to the ground in order for it to be a catch even if your elbow, knee or rear end has hit the ground before you lose complete control . But the ground can't cause a fumble . If you have control of the ball on a running play when your elbow, knee or rear end hit the ground and then you fumble the ball after 1 or more body parts hit the ground you are down and it's not not a fumble A O lineman can grab a jersey as long as they grab in the chest area but if you go outside there say on the shoulder pad and grab the jersey it's Holding . Then there was the play last year called on Cody Ford for illegal block in the back was it i can't remember the entire play but i remember he was called for something like that and looking at replay he hit him from the side not in the back but still got called for a foul . Can y'all add any that you don't get to the list ? Edited January 21, 2021 by T master 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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