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Justin Tucker's first missed FG actually broke the plane, and counted as unsuccessful correctly


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It's always nice to learn something new about NFL rules. Tucker's first FG hit the left upright, crossed the plane, but returned back through the goalposts, which according to NFL rules is still counted as unsuccessful. The spin on the ball does tricky things.

 

 

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Justin Tucker's first missed FG vs. Bills actually went in - before it didn't

 

Using advanced technology to track the football, Lopez found that on Tucker's first miss, the 41-yard double doink, that the ball actually crossed over the bottom goalpost before moving back towards the right upright and eventually hitting it.

 

 

So, why didn't it count?

In order for the try to be successful, the entire football must pass through the vertical plane between the two uprights. If the ball does so, but then returns through the goalposts without hitting another object, person or the ground, the try is unsuccessful, according to the NFL's rulebook.

 

 

 

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Using my advanced technology to track the football (my eyeballs) the ball boinked off the upright and came back out to the front of the goal posts into the end zone.  

 

Not sure where this new "technology" is coming from.  My guess is it's from Justin Tucker's mother.

 

 

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No offense, but I think who ever made this graph might just be making stuff up.  Did it actually cross the plane? This "graph" says it did. But it also shows that the other field goal didn't even hit the cross bar. Just sayin'.

 

Edit: not to mention, the purple line in each graph is different.

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4 minutes ago, BUFFALOKIE said:

So, if the ball does not go through the goal posts it doesn't count. News breaking stuff right there.

 

Or......if it does go thru but gets spit back out! The Football Gods were having NONE OF THAT! 

 

On to Kansas City.......

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48 minutes ago, syhuang said:

It's always nice to learn something new about NFL rules. Tucker's first FG hit the left upright, crossed the plane, but returned back through the goalposts, which according to NFL rules is still counted as unsuccessful. The spin on the ball does tricky things.

 

 

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Justin Tucker's first missed FG vs. Bills actually went in - before it didn't

 

Using advanced technology to track the football, Lopez found that on Tucker's first miss, the 41-yard double doink, that the ball actually crossed over the bottom goalpost before moving back towards the right upright and eventually hitting it.

 

 

So, why didn't it count?

In order for the try to be successful, the entire football must pass through the vertical plane between the two uprights. If the ball does so, but then returns through the goalposts without hitting another object, person or the ground, the try is unsuccessful, according to the NFL's rulebook.

 

 

 


From the TV broadcast, it looked like he hit the upright and doinked it through.  So glad that he missed 

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30 minutes ago, BUFFALOKIE said:

So, if the ball does not go through the goal posts it doesn't count. News breaking stuff right there.

i get your snark, but i think the upshot is that the ball has to end up through the goal posts. 

 

Unless interfered with by a player, or hitting the ground beyond the posts and boinking back thru, or something like lightning hitting it or something.

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If that first one goes through the entire game is different: butterfly effect type thing. 

They go up 3-0, instead of us getting the ball there, Balt kicks off. The rest is history, no telling what happens.  Taron Johnson is likely never in position for a pick six. Maybe our offense hits on a couple more plays. no telling...but it sure was amazing that he doinked em both.

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7 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:


Back and to the left.  That is one magic loogie.

 

 

 

A classic!

9 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

The Refs said No Good

 

oh well 🤷‍♂️ 

Through meaning passing through and landing between and behind the posts 

 

 

Can you imagine the blow-back if an official said, "It crossed the plane, and came back out, so it is good."

 

The world would go mad, like storm the Capital mad. Twitter would be shut down with conspiracy theories.

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It’s funny. Everyone can poke fun at this thread but during the game I was screaming at the TV, wondering what the heck two refs were checking with each other about...waiting to get screwed in true Bills fashion. The ball obviously hit the post. They could hear it. The ball obviously landed in the blue paint of the end zone. They could see it. Now we know what they were checking on. 

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There are some rules in the NFL that i have always had a hard time understanding !!
 

If the ball crosses the plain of the goal line it's a TD if the person holding the ball crosses the plain and the ball doesn't but his feet or any other body part touches the end zone and the ball doesn't cross the plain it's not a TD  .

 

But then if the ball crosses the plain of the goal post and comes back out it's not a FG ?

 

You have to keep control of the ball going to the ground in order for it to be a catch even if your elbow, knee or rear end has hit the ground before you lose complete control .

 

But the ground can't cause a fumble .

 

 If you have control of the ball on a running play when your elbow, knee or rear end hit the ground and then you fumble the ball after 1 or more body parts hit the ground you are down and it's not not a fumble  

 

A O lineman can grab a jersey as long as they grab in the chest area but if you go outside there say on the shoulder pad and grab the jersey it's Holding .

 

Then there was the play last year called on Cody Ford for illegal block in the back was it i can't remember the entire play but i remember he was called for something like that and looking at replay he hit him from the side not in the back but still got called for a foul .

 

Can y'all add any that you don't get to the list ?

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