sirebors Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Is this possible? Could or would Josh Allen take a below market value contract like Tom Brady did for the benefit of his team? I know it seems silly at face value but Josh is cut from a different cloth. He is a consumate team player and genuinely a good person and cares about his team and teammates. To build a dynasty and further gain the respect of his teammates would he ever consider this? I'm sure his agent wouldn't be happy but I don't think money is Josh Allen's primary driving focus. To be able to keep Milano, Williams, and even pay his friend Diggs? I mean seriously, when is enough enough? Does it have to be 500 million? Isn't 350 million or 400 million enough to live comfortably for the rest of his life? Would the rest of the league, particularly the quarterbacks be critical of him for doing this? I'm just curious what everyone's take is? And if so, what would he be willing to accept? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITE ME Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) He isn't getting $500 million unless they win the Super Bowl. If he wins a Super Bowl he is worth the $500 million. The quarterback that brings the city of Buffalo their first world championship should be the highest paid player in the NFL. Edited January 18, 2021 by BITE ME 6 1 7 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 $40 million a year 5 years that’s my guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 There is no way to know really. It wouldn’t surprise me if he took a team friendly deal, but I’d never hold it against him for digging in to get all he can either. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Initially no.... but I feel he’s the type of guy that might after a few years restructure to get another playmaker or two.... once you’re making $35-40M per what does it matter if you only make $32M, maybe $28M but extend an additional year... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirebors Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 I'm being a little facetious. I realize it probably won't be half a billion, but Mahomes got 450 million. Does Josh need 45 million a year or would he be ok with 40 or 35 or even 30? Or is that completely outside the realm of possibility? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 I mean is it possible sure, should we expect it no. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) I don’t think you “sign” team friendly deals as often as you “restructure” later to be team friendly as you continue to win and be competitive. If i’m his agent, I say “get every penny today. You can always accommodate later, on your terms, when you want to.” Edited January 19, 2021 by Neo 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 I wouldn’t be surprised to see a $500M 10 year contract 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Josh Allen holds out.....is he still your besty? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 No. He won't. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirebors Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 Would the team ever even consider approaching him about something like this? Or would that be disrespectful? Or would Josh Allen himself have to actually suggest it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 What do you consider 'team friendly' ? Structure sometimes is as important as dollars. 3 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Let Allen have his money if he earns it. Yes they are aided briefly by having a QB on a rookie deal but if they can't win paying a superstar QB the going rate then that will be on McBeane. Having $5M-$10M less per year to spend ain't gonna' make much of a difference if they don't draft and develop well. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirebors Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 Just now, klos63 said: What do you consider 'team friendly' ? Structure sometimes is as important as dollars. I would almost be willing to roll the dice with him and give him an unprecedented amount guaranteed and signing bonus to lower the contract amount and just hope for the best. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 I think he would take a cut here and there to obtain an extra player some years. I don't think he would take under market out of the gate, and I don't blame him. If he holds out that's on the front office, pay the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 No, no, no, no, and no. It’s not his job to make the deal team friendly-don’t go cheap on your quarterback. Guys around the league watch that stuff. He might go 5-10 million less if he gets a bunch more guaranteed, but he’s not taking $30 million if the other guys are getting $40+ million now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 He's getting paid what he deserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirebors Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Southern_Bills said: I think he would take a cut here and there to obtain an extra player some years. I don't think he would take under market out of the gate, and I don't blame him. If he holds out that's on the front office, pay the man. I don't think Josh Allen would ever consider holding out. That's not in his DNA. I mean under outlandish circumstances anything is possible, but not with this Administration. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Frack, frack, frack 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirebors Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: No, no, no, no, and no. It’s not his job to make the deal team friendly-don’t go cheap on your quarterback. Guys around the league watch that stuff. He might go 5-10 million less if he gets a bunch more guaranteed, but he’s not taking $30 million if the other guys are getting $40+ million now Brady did. The GOAT was far below his market value. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBillsOrDie Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 17 minutes ago, wppete said: $40 million a year 5 years that’s my guess. sounds about right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirebors Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 Just now, HOUSE said: Frack, frack, frack It's not the money that's the issue. It's the salary cap and staying competitive. The Pegulas will have to pay the salary cap regardless who they pay it to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITE ME Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, sirebors said: Brady did. The GOAT was far below his market value. Brady has a wife that is worth almost half a billion dollars. I don't think money was his main interest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 NFLPA won’t let him. Expect a top 5 deal within 5 mil per of the max 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBillsForLife Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 If TBD posters were in charge of contract negotiations the Bills would give Allen such a lowball extension number that he would be insulted and sign with another team. Hometown discounts are a fantasy that only exists in fans' minds. Pay the man, make him the 2nd highest paid player in the league after Mahomes no matter what, and equal Mahomes' contract if he wins the SB this year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalftimeAdjustment Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 If you are working for a for-profit company (not a nonprofit/charity), in which you had no financial interest or ownership, would you take an employer-friendly compensation package? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Just now, sirebors said: Brady did. The GOAT was far below his market value. Ahhhhhh yes, the ONE outlier ever. He also could because he wasn’t the bread winner in his own family! If you ever listen to the players, they NEVER want their teammates taking less money than what they can get. They want their teammates to get paid. Pay Josh what he is worth, don’t think that he’s going to take some sort of hometown discount because he seems like that kind of guy. I’m telling you if you short change your quarterback, guys know and guys don’t want to play for teams that are cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, klos63 said: What do you consider 'team friendly' ? Structure sometimes is as important as dollars. 5 minutes ago, inaugural balls said: He's getting paid what he deserves. Combine both of your posts and I think you got the answer. The only question is: How many years? My answer to that is probably 6 or 7. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirebors Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 Just now, HalftimeAdjustment said: If you are working for a for-profit company (not a nonprofit/charity), in which you had no financial interest or ownership, would you take an employer-friendly compensation package? If I had the choice between making 40 million a year and going to 0 Superbowls and 30 million a year and going to 9 like Brady and be immortalized forever, I would probably choose the latter. With 3 or 400 million, you could allow generations of your family to live comfortably. I realize nothing is guaranteed. He could take a team friendly deal and still go to zero. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak-O Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, HalftimeAdjustment said: If you are working for a for-profit company (not a nonprofit/charity), in which you had no financial interest or ownership, would you take an employer-friendly compensation package? If it meant more of my mates could still work there and the workplace being more enjoyable (like winning more games) and I was making more money than I could ever spend in a hundred years, then yes, I most definitely would. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 The “team friendly” deal talk only comes down the line after you make a boatload of money. They’re going to pay him a lot of money. Maybe in 3-4 years, if the Bills need cap relief, he will help them out and restructure. But he wouldn’t be smart to take less now, and I doubt the Bills would ever even consider asking him to do that now. It’s almost disrespectful. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 I think if not just Allen but Diggs were willing to take a little less if it meant keeping key teammates or signing a critical free agent, they might do it. Especially if we win a Super Bowl or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sirebors Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, Virgil said: NFLPA won’t let him. Expect a top 5 deal within 5 mil per of the max Is this a real thing? I realize they could prefer he took what he was worth, but in the end it's his choice. I believe it will be close. And I believe Beane will give him what he's worth. I was just curious if he might to be willing in one shape or another to help create a dynasty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalftimeAdjustment Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, sirebors said: Brady did. The GOAT was far below his market value. Several factors there: - As a national figure, Brady could expect to get more money from endorsement deals with continued success. In my opinion, Josh Allen is going to face some commercial limitations while playing in Buffalo even if he were to win Superbowl MVP (and maybe also outside of Buffalo). - There may have been reasons Brady considered other options to be EXTREMELY undesirable. It's no secret, for example, that some players may sign for a bit less with a winning organization vs a losing organization. - It wasn't his second contract, was it? I believe he was already quite wealthy. Josh Allen is coming off of his first rookie contract and needs to make $$$ on his next contract to guarantee maximum earnings (in case of injury). Waiting to get paid later is almost always a bad move. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Josh is repped by Creative Artists Agency, e.g. Hollywood folk. They make their money from the deals they get for their clients. They don't give two figs about salary cap and team chemistry. He will get the top dollar for who ever gets paid that year. Doubt Hollywood sharks will ever take a hometown discount. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 35 minutes ago, sirebors said: Is this possible? Could or would Josh Allen take a below market value contract like Tom Brady did for the benefit of his team? I know it seems silly at face value but Josh is cut from a different cloth. He is a consumate team player and genuinely a good person and cares about his team and teammates. To build a dynasty and further gain the respect of his teammates would he ever consider this? I'm sure his agent wouldn't be happy but I don't think money is Josh Allen's primary driving focus. To be able to keep Milano, Williams, and even pay his friend Diggs? I mean seriously, when is enough enough? Does it have to be 500 million? Isn't 350 million or 400 million enough to live comfortably for the rest of his life? Would the rest of the league, particularly the quarterbacks be critical of him for doing this? I'm just curious what everyone's take is? And if so, what would he be willing to accept? You should write him a letter and ask him. You will probably get the same response I get from women when I ask them out, which is a "No" or "maybe....I'll let you know" and then you won't hear from him again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirebors Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: Ahhhhhh yes, the ONE outlier ever. He also could because he wasn’t the bread winner in his own family! If you ever listen to the players, they NEVER want their teammates taking less money than what they can get. They want their teammates to get paid. Pay Josh what he is worth, don’t think that he’s going to take some sort of hometown discount because he seems like that kind of guy. I’m telling you if you short change your quarterback, guys know and guys don’t want to play for teams that are cheap I don't know if I entirety believe this. They say they want everyone to get paid, but they want to get paid too. There's only so much to go around. And I don't believe that other players wouldn't want to play here if Josh Allen willingly took less money in order to give more to his teammates. I think they would respect him more. It's not the team that's cheap. They're still paying to the salary cap, it's just one players decision to drop his overall cap percentage to the benefit of his teammates and friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billznut Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Allen isn’t going to have to take less. I think the Pegulas and the Bills braintrust WANT to let the world know they think they have the best QB in the world. I expect the Bills offer to Allen will be numbers to TOP Mahomes deal. Maybe not in years but in annual pay, perhaps even both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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