TSNBDSC Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) Torn meniscus i think. Time to move on unfortunately. It is what it is. Edited December 31, 2020 by TSNBDSC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Figster said: We get the point, or I do anyway. I think what the fellas are implying is both Beasley and Allen would put a positive spin on things. I'm not sure how accurate that makes it... Gotcha yeah thx... I think Allen would be much more vague or less confident sounding about it based on his typical responses 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 hour ago, oldmanfan said: I’m an adult, and have a doctorate in Anatomy. The term you were looking for was blood supply, not innervation. The blood supply to the meniscus is pretty limited and primarily through the synovium. No one in this thread can diagnose what what happened to him based on the replay, or the few seconds of the sideline shot with the trainers. So we all should quit guessing. oh man - I caught Skynyrd at the synovium. They tore it up 1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said: Holy HIPAA violations, Batman! No, no Giuseppe! Not Hippa - Kneea! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Just now, 34-78-83 said: Gotcha yeah thx... I think Allen would be much more vague or less confident sounding about it based on his typical responses He's a smart cookie, this Josh Allen. I don't expect him to say anything that may expose a weakness or help another opponent. Not in my humble opinion anyway. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Repulsif Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) all I can say is.... fack Edited December 31, 2020 by Repulsif 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 2 hours ago, Dukestreetking said: Fair enough re "adults" comment. For that I apologise. We are sometimes too quick on the trigger. In return, I suggest calling someone a cartoon character (someone you don't know) might also require some reflection, if only for better situational awareness. Now...I'm going to rely on oldmanfan and balln for my updates. (N.B., "we" means those who've probably been down-range for too long.) I appreciate your thoughtful response. My initial post was meant more in jest than as any sort of intentional slight or insult. I’ve been here long enough to realize message boards are a poor medium for nuance, though, so I apologize for being a prick, even if it wasn’t my explicit intent. Happy New Year! ...and more importantly, Go Bills! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 It seems like the more time that goes on, without ACL, LCL, MCL or PCL reports, the better. The ligaments seems to be reported quickly - same or next day, Barkley, Bosa, Chubb, Whitworth, Bush, Dupree and so on. Hopefully just a sprained knee then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) “The best-case scenario is that it’s a lateral knee contusion and the team is being cautious. The next possibility is the quadriceps strain which could be a week-to-week injury that could force him out. This would be the most opportune situation in terms of overall health. The worst-case would be the meniscus tear and he has to battle through it for the postseason. We saw former Bills wide receiver Kelvin Benjamin deal with this during the 2017 season. I would expect Beasley to do the same. I hope I’m wrong, I want to be wrong, but I am considering all possibilities based on the information at hand.”https://bangedupbills.com/2020/12/30/2020-week-16-bills-injury-review-patriots/ Edited December 31, 2020 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: “The best-case scenario is that it’s a lateral knee contusion and the team is being cautious. The next possibility is the quadriceps strain which could be a week-to-week injury that could force him out. This would be the most opportune situation in terms of overall health. The worst-case would be the meniscus tear and he has to battle through it for the postseason. We saw former Bills wide receiver Kelvin Benjamin deal with this during the 2017 season. I would expect Beasley to do the same. I hope I’m wrong, I want to be wrong, but I am considering all possibilities based on the information at hand.”https://bangedupbills.com/2020/12/30/2020-week-16-bills-injury-review-patriots/ Bangedupbills is my least favorite part of Locked on Bills. Love Joe Marino, but this guy just sounds like some know-it-all at a bar on Elmwood. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, mannc said: Bangedupbills is my least favorite part of Locked on Bills. Love Joe Marino, but this guy just sounds like some know-it-all at a bar on Elmwood. You read that injury speculation as know-it-all? Reads like a smart, reasonable take to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Just now, Richard Noggin said: You read that injury speculation as know-it-all? Reads like a smart, reasonable take to me. I was not referring to that take in particular; it was a comment on his body of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Just now, mannc said: I was not referring to that take in particular; it was a comment on his body of work. I'd love to see an example. I'm not super familiar with his work, although I know I've seen his observations before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Just now, Richard Noggin said: I'd love to see an example. I'm not super familiar with his work, although I know I've seen his observations before. Go listen to the podcast on thursdays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: “The best-case scenario is that it’s a lateral knee contusion and the team is being cautious. The next possibility is the quadriceps strain which could be a week-to-week injury that could force him out. This would be the most opportune situation in terms of overall health. The worst-case would be the meniscus tear and he has to battle through it for the postseason. We saw former Bills wide receiver Kelvin Benjamin deal with this during the 2017 season. I would expect Beasley to do the same. I hope I’m wrong, I want to be wrong, but I am considering all possibilities based on the information at hand.”https://bangedupbills.com/2020/12/30/2020-week-16-bills-injury-review-patriots/ Ohhhh, don’t even get me started on the tibial plateau! A lot of people on here speculating, and I get that it’s only natural. Most didn’t even stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night! I’ll hold off and pray for the best. There are certain games where Beasley is a critical tool in the box, but this is football. This stuff happens. The Kelvin Benjamin reference did not inspire me, I must admit! . Edited December 31, 2020 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Augie said: Ohhhh, don’t even get me started on the tibial plateau! A lot of people on here speculating, and I get that it’s only natural. Most didn’t even stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night! I’ll hold off and pray for the best. There are certain games where Beasley is a critical tool in the box, but this is football. This stuff happens. The Kelvin Benjamin reference did not inspire me, I must admit! . Edited December 31, 2020 by ColoradoBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 25 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said: I'd love to see an example. I'm not super familiar with his work, although I know I've seen his observations before. I could be wrong, but I think he was more referring to his spot on the Cover1 podcast I never listen to that, so I have no opinion on its quality. I follow him on Twitter and read his bangedupbills.com blog. He's always reasoned and doesn't come across as a know-it-all at all. He's also fairly well connected to other sports-involved people so when someone else has a different viewpoint he's very good about presenting it and either giving it props or explaining why he thinks it's less likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: I will NOT be baited by the likes of you, fine sir!!! (The three exclamation marks mean I REALLY mean it!) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Augie said: I will NOT be baited by the likes of you, fine sir!!! (The three exclamation marks mean I REALLY mean it!) LOL I couldn't help it. I helped engineer the manufacturing process of the variable screws that went into that plate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: LOL I couldn't help it. I helped engineer the manufacturing process of the variable screws that went into that plate! Yeah, well I helped engineer the original human knee. I’m older than you think! Or, at least, I FEEL that old! Colorado would be a good place to work on fixing knees! When my son tore his ACL and MCL we went to Steadman-Hawkins for the surgery. One Colorado location but the other was Greenville, SC where my BIL is a doctor and friends with the surgeon. HUGE difference getting surgery and PT geared toward an athlete vs a blue hair in Florida where we lived at the time. Congrats on your contribution to the amazing evolution of modern medicine. It really is amazing how far we have come. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 18 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I could be wrong, but I think he was more referring to his spot on the Cover1 podcast Turns out you're correct. Still would love to see more support for that claim (I'm always fascinated by people who come off as arrogant know-it-alls AND by people who insecurely perceive others to be know-it-alls). I don't have any insight beyond some tweets shared on this forum (which I've always appreciated, even though by definition they're conjecture, at least in a mathematical sense). Podcasts are a dramatically different medium than social media snippets, so maybe the content creator in question doesn't translate well beyond the written word. Maybe I'll have the opportunity to catch his podcast. Which one is it, specifically? WHO is it? I watch some Cover-1 content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 3 hours ago, TSNBDSC said: Torn meniscus i think. Time to move on unfortunately. It is what it is. @Johnny Hammersticks, see!?!!?!? YOU STARTED IT!!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) https://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/2020/12/josh-allen-optimistic-cole-beasley-can-return-for-playoffs-for-bills.html Josh isn't talking like 🐝🐝 is done Edited December 31, 2020 by Starr Almighty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 20 minutes ago, Gugny said: @Johnny Hammersticks, see!?!!?!? YOU STARTED IT!!!!!! But didn’t you say that some quarterback that we may or may not know might sustain a devastating injury to his lower extremities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Just now, Johnny Hammersticks said: But didn’t you say that some quarterback that we may or may not know might sustain a devastating injury to his lower extremities? I said it was cold outside. ~fin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Some possible diagnoses. https://thebuffalofanatics.com/cole-beasleys-leg-injury-some-possible-diagnoses/?fbclid=IwAR16acuOlN65pZz-W46_VDMVpJ9njt0_oqotRkOp5qpactv5rhdxD_nEGxA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukestreetking Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 3 hours ago, transient said: I appreciate your thoughtful response. My initial post was meant more in jest than as any sort of intentional slight or insult. I’ve been here long enough to realize message boards are a poor medium for nuance, though, so I apologize for being a prick, even if it wasn’t my explicit intent. Happy New Year! ...and more importantly, Go Bills! Transient: normally I get nuance, but I suppose it was my day just to fly off the handle. Anyway, same sentiment back to you and yours. Respectfully, Dsk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) We're going to find out by Friday what he's dealing with. My guess is they didn't want the news to be cold water on the win Monday. I'm betting it's an injury he won't fully recover from during the playoffs; its likely a pain tolerance issue as much as anything so if one of the board's resident docs can take a guess what that is; will likely miss round 1 and maybe round 2. Better chance AFC championship game. We shouldn't need him vs Cleveland who I'm already banking on we're playing. Unless he was needed as a run stuffer. Now RD 2.....I think Pittsburgh will lose to Baltimore in RD 1 and we will play winner of Tennessee and Miami. If Miami he would be a big help. Tennessee defense is garbage. I'd still rather play Miami. Man that's the ideal run. Cleveland, Miami, then the KC-Baltimore winner. Good chance it's at home vs Baltimore. Them or KC at that point I don't care who. I'll count on him being ready in 4 weeks for that game. Edited December 31, 2020 by Big Blitz 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: We're going to find out by Friday what he's dealing with. My guess is they didn't want the news to be cold water on the win Monday. I'm betting it's an injury he won't fully recover from during the playoffs; its likely a pain tolerance issue as much as anything so if one of the board's resident docs can take a guess what that is; will likely miss round 1 and maybe round 2. Better chance AFC championship game. We shouldn't need him vs Cleveland who I'm already banking on we're playing. Unless he was needed as a run stuffer. Now RD 2.....I think Pittsburgh will lose to Baltimore in RD 1 and we will play winner of Tennessee and Miami. If Miami he would be a big help. Tennessee defense is garbage. I'd still rather play Miami. Man that's the ideal run. Cleveland, Miami, then the KC-Baltimore winner. Good chance it's at home vs Baltimore. Them or KC at that point I don't care who. I'll count on him being ready in 4 weeks for that game. Plausible interpretation. Agree on the nature of the ideal run. Let's hope it plays out that way. Edited December 31, 2020 by Dr. Who Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Could be an interstitium problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 from Banged Up Bills on Twitter: (full disclosure I didnt read this thread at all, just sharing knowledge, if someone already posted this earlier just disregard) 1 of 2 possible scenarios: 1- contusion, will be fine for first playoff game 2- meniscus, can be played through with pain tolerance (Kelvin Benjamin a couple years ago) and thats worst case scenario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 I'm sure it's just an impaired Johnson Rod--- he'll likely be OK. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 13 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Just my opinion, but I think Fromm has earned the "gratitude chip" that will give him the inside track to earn the backup role - not that they won't bring in FA or rookie(s) to compete I also think we see Davis Webb stay on the team in some role - perhaps as a coaching assistant if not as a backup QB. I was thinking that, but my concern is that he has not been tested at the NFL level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 27 minutes ago, BuffaloMatt said: I was thinking that, but my concern is that he has not been tested at the NFL level. I think you're speaking of Fromm, but maybe it's Davis Webb we're going to see on Sunday and that we have in mind as a future backup QB. Daboll was asked about him in his Monday presser and he practically gushed. (interview on buffalobills.com, 11 minutes in, sorry I can't figure out how to link to that time). Said he could go on and on about him, he's a tremendous teammate, he's totally unselfish, he's a developing QB in this league. Reminded the press he was drafted in the 3rd round*. Said he's the best teammate he's ever seen, he does a tremendous job helping Josh prepare for games, "spends a lot of time with Shae** and going through the team we're about to play" "he's an awesome guy" - he went on for almost 2 minutes *2017, by the Giants; in college at Texas Tech, he was the starting QB for half a season and lost his job after injury to....Patrick Mahomes. He finished as a grad assistant at Cal. **Shae Tierney, assistant QB coach On the one hand, if he's a great developing QB, it's hard to understand why he got passed around from the Giants to the Jets to the Bills like a bestselling novel. On the other hand, a lot of that goes with front office "churn" where the GM who drafted him or brought him in got fired. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 I want Josh to get his 40 yards and I want Diggs to get enough to put-away the receiving title. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 McDermott just said Gilliam is only person that is ruled out Sunday. So Beasley isn't out yet....maybe they got good news on testing and that's why they haven't signed stills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 What's up with Gilliam? And good news on Bease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Doc said: What's up with Gilliam? And good news on Bease. He’s been hurt for a couple weeks. Hamstring I think 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Just now, YoloinOhio said: If so, why wait so long? He won't be able to play in a regular season game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, Doc said: If so, why wait so long? He won't be able to play in a regular season game. Might be done already and he's in protocol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, Doc said: If so, why wait so long? He won't be able to play in a regular season game. Signings are a two way street. Could be on his end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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