Week 12: Chargers at Bills

[billsfanmiamioh]

15 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

he definitely though turned the corner that last season in San Diego, but then got injured. It was silly for SD to let him Walk, in hindsight. The injury obviously had zero

effect. 

I dunno I think I remember reading an article about his shoulder being pretty messed up. Obviously Miami doctors wouldn’t clear him. I don’t think it was a slam dunk that his shoulder was going to be ok.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

24 minutes ago, zow2 said:

As ESPN pointed out this morning. Buffalo has lost 7 of the last 8 vs the Chargers and our overall winning % is in the low .300’s against LA.  The worst against any opponent in Bills history.  So Buf has to change the mojo around tomorrow.  

 

Yeah that always bugs the snot out of me that the NFL brings up years of head-to-head team history as though it is relevant to today.

 

What's relevant is that McDermott as Bills HC has lost two games to the Chargers, both badly.

 

1) The infamous "Peterman" start in 2017

2) Josh Allen's first start in 2018.  Which Josh is rightly embarrassed about in hindsight - "how little I understood about our protections", where his answers were to various defensive schemes etc.  Not only did he not know it, he didn't know he didn't know it.    But That was Then, This is Now.

 

Our previous game against the Chargers was 2014.

[RichRiderBills]

I really think highly of the Chargers but this is a bad matchup for them. Our strengths pass rushing, generating takeaways play to their weaknesses. Also, call me crazy, but I still feel our secondary is underachieving and will snap back into a better place. On paper, we have the studs back there to cover and contain. 

 

Plus, this D down DBs ,  Ingrahm, Nwoso, beat up , methinks Josh will move the ball up and down the field and have time to throw.

Edited November 28, 2020 by RichRiderBills

[Beerball]

44 minutes ago, zow2 said:

 

I agree, but i don’t think it’s a trap game.  The Bills know the significance and will be prepared.  you just don’t know if there will be rust and how turnovers will play into this.  

 

As ESPN pointed out this morning. Buffalo has lost 7 of the last 8 vs the Chargers and our overall winning % is in the low .300’s against LA.  The worst against any opponent in Bills history.  So Buf has to change the mojo around tomorrow.  

Ancient history.

 

Bills 35

Bolts 23

[Mailman]

9 hours ago, Mark Vader said:

After two years?

Ford has been a bit of a disappointment. However I was hoping he would be back so we could see him get more game time at LG and determine his future role with the team. 

[Royale with Cheese]

 

[dave mcbride]

13 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Also down a starting vet corner in Hayward. That’s a big loss for them.

[97bills]

9 hours ago, wvbillsfan said:

Results probably would’ve been the same. Maybe earlier picks a few years. 

It’s just hard to believe out of all those years we didn’t draft a better QB man I’m glad we got Allen first time since kelly I bought a bills jersey 

[Solomon Grundy]

Wallace v Mike Williams is the matchup that intrigues me. How will he handle the length of Williams. Can't sleep on Josh Kelley running the ball either

[dave mcbride]

17 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

and yet they have gotten nowhere with any of them

In that time frame, they have had a 14-2 season, a 13-3 season, two 12-4 seasons, five playoff wins, and a championship game appearance. Yeah, there haven’t been any Super Bowls, but those highlights amount to a fair bit more than “nowhere.” 

[97bills]

1 hour ago, Just Joshin' said:

After the last game there is no way this is a trap game.  They will be primed to redeem.

I agree with you coming off a bad lost and with the AFC playoffs so tight no way this is a trap game if we lose it’s because they just beat us but I don’t see that happening 

[NewEra]

9 hours ago, Mark Vader said:

After two years?

I’m not saying he’s done in Buffalo, but can we afford to go into 2021 with Ford as the unquestioned starter at LG? 
 

Solid competition must be added.  He’s in a lucky position due to the fact that all of our other guards are free agents, as is D Williams.  We’re going to have to spend and/or draft to fill  RG and RT, so adding competition at LG might be relegated to minimum salary FA or later draft pick.  His play has been way below par for a starting OL imo.  Hopefully he can make the improvements needed this offseason

[balln]

32 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Wallace v Mike Williams is the matchup that intrigues me. How will he handle the length of Williams. Can't sleep on Josh Kelley running the ball either

bigger slower WR he does much better. not worried about that matchup

 

keenan allen is going to make me worried. BUT eleker out of the backfield will tear them up if he plays 

[QLBillsFan]

28 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I’m not saying he’s done in Buffalo, but can we afford to go into 2021 with Ford as the unquestioned starter at LG? 
 

Solid competition must be added.  He’s in a lucky position due to the fact that all of our other guards are free agents, as is D Williams.  We’re going to have to spend and/or draft to fill  RG and RT, so adding competition at LG might be relegated to minimum salary FA or later draft pick.  His play has been way below par for a starting OL imo.  Hopefully he can make the improvements needed this offseason

He was drafted in the 2nd round. He will a shot to start in 2021. Has he been great no, but it’s less than a half a season at his more natural position. By this time next season I think we can made more of a judgement. 

[NewEra]

9 minutes ago, QLBillsFan said:

He was drafted in the 2nd round. He will a shot to start in 2021. Has he been great no, but it’s less than a half a season at his more natural position. By this time next season I think we can made more of a judgement. 

so being a 2nd round pick = getting handed a starting position?  That’s not what McD has preached since day one.
 

If we don’t add any solid competition for Ford, I feel we’ll regret it.  I’m not saying he definitely isn’t the answer.  I’m saying that he hasn’t even been average.  He’s been a negative player.  His play hasn’t earned him a starting position.  When you’re the weakest link along the OL, your job is in jeopardy unless you perform.  If we wait until AFTER NEXT season to give him competition, it could waste our 2021 season.  This time next season is a bad time to decide whether or not we add competition for his starting spot
 

 

[wjag]

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

I’m not saying he’s done in Buffalo, but can we afford to go into 2021 with Ford as the unquestioned starter at LG? 
 

Solid competition must be added.  He’s in a lucky position due to the fact that all of our other guards are free agents, as is D Williams.  We’re going to have to spend and/or draft to fill  RG and RT, so adding competition at LG might be relegated to minimum salary FA or later draft pick.  His play has been way below par for a starting OL imo.  Hopefully he can make the improvements needed this offseason

 

... and a high draft pick...  That's where I am at.  He feels like trade bait to me.  Others have stepped in.  Others could step in.. When he's in there, he hasn't wowed.  Is the sample size too small?  Absolutely.  Can teams afford to wait anymore?  Debatable. 

[QLBillsFan]

32 minutes ago, NewEra said:

so being a 2nd round pick = getting handed a starting position?  That’s not what McD has preached since day one.
 

If we don’t add any solid competition for Ford, I feel we’ll regret it.  I’m not saying he definitely isn’t the answer.  I’m saying that he hasn’t even been average.  He’s been a negative player.  His play hasn’t earned him a starting position.  When you’re the weakest link along the OL, your job is in jeopardy unless you perform.  If we wait until AFTER NEXT season to give him competition, it could waste our 2021 season.  This time next season is a bad time to decide whether or not we add competition for his starting spot
 

 

All good points. I’m saying he’s had about 6 starts at his best position.His potential alone is worth seeing how it plays out. If he doesn’t win the positive in preseason then he does not start. 

[Mark Vader]

1 hour ago, Mailman said:

Ford has been a bit of a disappointment. However I was hoping he would be back so we could see him get more game time at LG and determine his future role with the team. 

Maybe.

 

I just believe that you have to think long term with players. Not every player is going to be an instant success.

[balln]

5 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

Maybe.

 

I just believe that you have to think long term with players. Not every player is going to be an instant success.

yes. see wyatt teller

[Bob in STL]

26 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

Maybe.

 

I just believe that you have to think long term with players. Not every player is going to be an instant success.

I recall Jim Ritcher, a first round pick and an All American in college.  He did not even start until his 4th year in the league.  Ended up playing 16 seasons in the NFL and 2 pro bowls.  

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, QLBillsFan said:

All good points. I’m saying he’s had about 6 starts at his best position.His potential alone is worth seeing how it plays out. If he doesn’t win the positive in preseason then he does not start. 

Preseason might be too late to decide.  Similar to what happened to our 1 tech this year.  Star opted out and Beane didn’t replace him.  If Ford fails to impress in preseason, it’s too late to sign a good FA or draft someone, meaning that we’ll be starting a bum at LG.  
 

we need to add someone to compete with him.  Maybe that’ll be Boettger and/or Bates again?  Idk, but I really hope Ford is plan A and B at LG next year.  

1 hour ago, Mark Vader said:

Maybe.

 

I just believe that you have to think long term with players. Not every player is going to be an instant success.

Sure, we have to think long term with players...but we can’t think long term about starting positions.  Keep Ford. Try and develop him, but also add competition for his position.  It can only help him and our team.

Edited November 28, 2020 by NewEra

[BillsFan619]

4 hours ago, zow2 said:

 

I agree, but i don’t think it’s a trap game.  The Bills know the significance and will be prepared.  you just don’t know if there will be rust and how turnovers will play into this.  

 

As ESPN pointed out this morning. Buffalo has lost 7 of the last 8 vs the Chargers and our overall winning % is in the low .300’s against LA.  The worst against any opponent in Bills history.  So Buf has to change the mojo around tomorrow.  

While that stat definitely doesn't have any bearing on tomorrow's game, it's still crazy that our overall winning percentage against them is so low.

Edited November 28, 2020 by BillsFan619

[The Wiz]

Cynthia frelund fantasy sleeper:

 

 

 

 

Gabriel Davis

Buffalo Bills · WR

There are a number of less risky players you could roster on your fantasy squads (we definitely hit on tons of them on Fantasy Live; I also post a bunch each weekend), but one of my favorite upside plays this week is Gabriel Davis, the Bills receiver who has 31 targets (fourth among WRs in Buffalo), 19 receptions and three receiving touchdowns (tied for second-most on the team). His yards-per-reception mark of 14.5 is the second-highest on the team. Targeting Davis this Sunday will allow the Bills to exploit the Chargers defenders who aren't tasked with stopping Stefon Diggs or Cole Beasley -- and there's a good chance that strategy will pay out end-zone dividends

[CaptnCoke11]

Hopefully this isn’t a game where they hover around 20 points.. seems to be the thing when Brown is out 

[QLBillsFan]

1 hour ago, balln said:

yes. see wyatt teller

So now Wyatt Tellar is an all pro. Based in the competition with the Bills he was deemed not as good as the other guys in camp. Really glad he’s done well, you can keep 11 OL on the roster. 

[The Wiz]

5 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Hopefully this isn’t a game where they hover around 20 points.. seems to be the thing when Brown is out 

I'm hoping missing Brown wont be as big of an issue with the chargers missing the players they are.  Brown has always been the safety value for Allen it seems.  Run his route and if it wasn't there, find somewhere else to be for Allen to throw it.  Missing their two best pass rushers (sack leaders) should give Allen time to not need to make those types of plays.

[JerseyBills]

Not sure if this has been posted.  Huge loss for LA. Ballage would be one as well. He has been the best RB out of their RB by committee approach and obviously Ekler isn't playing either. 

[eball]

I just realized...the UB Bulls are at home against the Kent State Golden Flashes, and the Bills host the Chargers tomorrow. UB is running all over them. 
 

Hmm...

[Putin]

This is a game that we should dominate it reminds me a little of the Seahawks game , good passing offense probably not much of a running game and a defense that we shouldn’t have any problems moving the ball against , 

I’m expecting the Bills to put up a lot of points and our defense to shut them down 

GO Bills 

[LeGOATski]

13 minutes ago, Putin said:

This is a game that we should dominate it reminds me a little of the Seahawks game , good passing offense probably not much of a running game and a defense that we shouldn’t have any problems moving the ball against , 

I’m expecting the Bills to put up a lot of points and our defense to shut them down 

GO Bills 

I'm still worried, but this is looking more and more like a great match-up for the Bills. 

[Putin]

6 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

I'm still worried, but this is looking more and more like a great match-up for the Bills. 

I’m ALWAYS worried every game no matter who we play , but to your point if we look at the match-up and this being a home game playing a team traveling from west coast I believe we win by at least 10 points!! 
GO Bills baby 

[BillsFan619]

57 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

Not sure if this has been posted.  Huge loss for LA. Ballage would be one as well. He has been the best RB out of their RB by committee approach and obviously Ekler isn't playing either. 

Is Ekeler not playing official? I know the decision had to come by today so did they end up not taking him off of IR?

 

Edited November 28, 2020 by BillsFan619

[The Wiz]

10 minutes ago, BillsFan619 said:

Is Ekeler not playing official? Did they end up not taking him off of IR?

Yeah bro, I have similar thoughts. Even though the Chargers play most teams within a score, my score prediction is 34-24 Bills.

I believe they have 20ish minutes to activate him. Not sure if it's east or west coast time at 4pm.

Edited November 28, 2020 by The Wiz

[BillsFan619]

14 minutes ago, Putin said:

I’m ALWAYS worried every game no matter who we play , but to your point if we look at the match-up and this being a home game playing a team traveling from west coast I believe we win by at least 10 points!! 
GO Bills baby 

Yeah bro, I have similar thoughts. Even though the Chargers play most teams within a score, my score prediction is 34-24 Bills.

3 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

I believe they have 20ish minutes to activate him. 

Thanks for sharing, Wiz.

Edited November 28, 2020 by BillsFan619

[wjag]

20 minutes ago, BillsFan619 said:

Is Ekeler not playing official? I know the decision had to come by today so did they end up not taking him off of IR?

 

It’s not official until Yolo says it’s official. 🙂 

[BillsFan619]

6 minutes ago, wjag said:

It’s not official until Yolo says it’s official. 🙂 

Yessir! Yolo, please bring on the good news.

Edited November 28, 2020 by BillsFan619

[YoloinOhio]

 

[The Wiz]

14 minutes ago, wjag said:

It’s not official until Yolo says it’s official. 🙂 

 

4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

And it's official. 

[BillsFan619]

8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Thanks for the update, Yolo.

Edited November 28, 2020 by BillsFan619

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

Why does it seem like guys that have been out for a while, always come back right before bills games? Last year playoffs JJ Watt...Tennessee Brown came back, Darnold in the jets game, Ekeler tomorrow.