Week 10 Postgame Thread: Bills at Cardinals 4:05 pm EST on CBS

[thenorthremembers]

Mcdermott 4-8 in games played after 1pm eastern.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

One of my favorite angles on all of this is that the two WR's that got traded before this season caught game winning TD's... 

 

Unfortunately, only one of them caught a game winning TD

[Bookie Man]

Is everyone 100% it was a catch? I never saw the camera angle I wanted to on the replays. 

[BillsFan619]

Just now, Raleigh • √eff said:

Is everyone 100% it was a catch? I never saw the camera angle I wanted to on the replays. 

There was one moment and one angle right after it happened where I wondered if the ball hit the ground for a second. It was probably wishful thinking that made me see a bounce. 
 

After that, every angle looked fine to me.

[BuffaloBaumer]

Well if they do not end up winning the division, it's just as well because the thought of hosting a playoff game with no fans is disgusting to me 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said:

Well if they do not end up winning the division, it's just as well because the thought of hosting a playoff game with no fans is disgusting to me 

 

I want us to win the division and I don’t care if the audience in the stadium is comprised of cardboard cutouts and mice.

[folz]

Some of you guys calling out players and saying the coaching staff should be fired are just ridiculous.

 

If not for a miracle, Hail Mary pass, we walk away with the win.

 

QBs throw INTs, players miss tackles, CBs get out jumped for balls. It happens. It's the NFL and the other guys get paid too. It was a great game to watch...people will be talking about it all week. The ending was like a punch to the gut, but the boys were still good enough to get the win, if not for a great play by two of the best players in the league. It was a good 'ol gunfight.

 

And just to give it some perspective, the Bills have not had their BYE yet, they had to travel cross country and play a late game, they came in pretty banged up, missing key players on COVID/Res---when Dane went down, we were missing 3 of our top 4 corners (and the one we did have was playing hurt), all against the number one offense in the league in their building (with some fans). And then losing Brown again hurt the offense. And despite all of that, we were a miracle play away from winning the game. I'm not making excuses for them or the loss (every team plays with adversity), but before you fire the coaches and start shipping players out, can you at least acknowledge that they weren't playing under perfect circumstances? It was a gut check game and despite not coming away with the win, I feel like they passed the test. They didn't pack it in with the BYE coming next week, after playing two emotional games in a row; they fought to the end, despite not playing their best ball.

 

And some of the takes on coaching decisions, I just don't agree with. You had exactly what you wanted on the Hail Mary with Poyer, Hyde, and Tre defending the ball. It didn't work out, but that is how you would want it designed. This idea of throwing Knox or a receiver in there isn't realistic. How much practice have they had at it? They might cause a PI, or let someone get away from them, or say the ball only gets to the 5 yard line, now they have to defend a guy like Hopkins. No. And getting the touchback on the last kickoff was the right call too. If you kick a squibb kick you take off maybe 3-4 seconds of clock tops (if that) vs. giving up 10-15 yards of field position. Odds favor the touchback there. It was the right decision.

 

The penalties were definitely an issue and that was disappointing. But I feel like the refs helped there too. I thought the one PI call against Worley was pretty ticky-tack and then on the next Bills position, an obvious PI call by AZ (against Gabe) was not made. And Neal was pretty hot on the holding call against him on that AZ punt and they never showed the replay, so I wonder about it. That took us out of AZ territory after a nice Roberts return with 4:38 left in the game. And then the next play was one of Allen's INTs. Overall they weren't that bad (the referees), but I did feel like they gave the Cards a few calls to help them get back in the game. But all of the pre-snap penalties by the Bills definitely need to be cleaned up over the BYE week.

 

It is a hugely disappointing loss because we had it there for a moment...it was in our grasp and we let it slip away, but I just can not get too down on the team for this one. They, by far, didn't have their best game and still almost came away with the win. I'm still excited (going forward) that the Bills made that last (almost game-winning) drive. Allen, Beasley, and Diggs were amazing on that drive, which bodes well. And even though the defense couldn't close it out and were playing with a depleted line-up, I felt that they continued their upward trajectory. Take the positives, work on the negatives, and move on. An NFC loss doesn't hurt too much, as far as the team's goals.

 

And people think this is a bad way to go into the BYE? Maybe it's not. Maybe this team stewing about this loss for two weeks...and hopefully getting healthy at the same time, will fuel them for a great stretch run of the season. And I'm not going to worry about Miami until I have to (week 17). We have a win against them and if we take care of business in that game, the threat will dissipate. 

 

Yes, loses suck, but this fire everyone sentiment, is so reactionary and pretty silly. One poster even said that it is time to move on from Poyer and Hyde. Poyer is playing at a Pro Bowl level and Hyde has been hurt. This is the best FO, coaching staff, and roster we have had in 20 years. They are winning games and going to the playoffs. Enjoy it...the ups and the downs. Why would you want to break it up? Come on guys...stand by your men!

 

Go Bills!

 

Edited November 16, 2020 by folz

[JGMcD2]

2 minutes ago, folz said:

Some of you guys calling out players and saying the coaching staff should be fired are just ridiculous.

 

If not for a miracle, Hail Mary pass, we walk away with the win.

 

QBs throw INTs, players miss tackles, CBs get out jumped for balls. It happens. It's the NFL and the other guys get paid too. It was a great game to watch...people will be talking about it all week. The ending was like a punch to the gut, but the boys were still good enough to get the win, if not for a great play by two of the best players in the league. It was a good 'ol gunfight.

 

And just to give it some perspective, the Bills have not had their BYE yet, they had to travel cross country and play a late game, they came in pretty banged up, missing key players on COVID/Res---when Dane went down, we were missing 3 of our top 4 corners (and the one we did have was playing hurt), all against the number one offense in the league in their building (with some fans). And then losing Brown again hurt the offense. And despite all of that, we were a miracle play away from winning the game. I'm not making excuses for them or the loss (every team plays with adversity), but before you fire the coaches and start shipping players out, can you at least acknowledge that they weren't playing under perfect circumstances? It was a gut check game and despite not coming away with the win, I feel like they passed the test. They didn't pack it in with the BYE coming next week, after playing two emotional games in a row; they fought to the end, despite not playing their best ball.

 

And some of the takes on coaching decisions, I just don't agree with. You had exactly what you wanted on the Hail Mary with Poyer, Hyde, and Tre defending the ball. It didn't work out, but that is how you would want it designed. This idea of throwing Knox or a receiver in there isn't realistic. How much practice have they had at it? They might cause a PI, or let someone get away from them, or say the ball only gets to the 5 yard line, now they have to defend a guy like Hopkins. No. And getting the touchback on the last kickoff was the right call too. If you kick a squibb kick you take off maybe 3-4 seconds of clock tops (if that) vs. giving up 10-15 yards of field position. Odds favor the touchback there. It was the right decision.

 

The penalties were definitely an issue and that was disappointing. But I feel like the refs helped there two. I thought the one PI call against Worley was pretty tricky-tack and then on the next Bills position, an obvious PI call by AZ (against Gabe) was not made. And Neal was pretty hot on the holding call against him on that AZ punt and they never showed the replay, so I wonder about it. That took us out of AZ territory after a nice Roberts return with 4:38 left in the game. And then the next play was one of Allen's INTs. Overall they weren't that bad (the referees), but I did feel like they gave the Cards a few calls to help them get back in the game. But all of the pre-snap penalties by the Bills definitely need to be cleaned up over the BYE week.

 

It is a hugely disappointing loss because we had it there for a moment...it was in our grasp and we let it slip away, but I just can not get too down on the team for this one. They, by far, didn't have their best game and still almost game away with the win. I'm still excited (going forward) that the Bills made that last (almost game-winning) drive. Allen, Beasley, and Diggs were amazing on that drive, which bodes well. And even though the defense couldn't close it out and were playing with a depleted line-up, I felt that they continued their upward trajectory. Take the positives, work on the negatives, and move on. An NFC loss doesn't hurt too much, as far as the team's goals.

 

And people think this is a bad way to go into the BYE? Maybe it's not. Maybe this team stewing about this loss for two weeks...and hopefully getting healthy at the same time, will fuel them for a great stretch run of the season. And I'm not going to worry about Miami until I have to (week 17). We have a win against them and if we take care of business in that game, the threat will dissipate. 

 

Yes, loses suck, but this fire everyone sentiment, is so reactionary and pretty silly. One guy even said that it is time to move on from Poyer and Hyde. Poyer is playing at a Pro Bowl level and Hyde has been hurt. This is the best FO, coaching staff, and roster we have had in 20 years. They are winning games and going to the playoffs. Why would you want to break it up? Come on guys...stand by your men!

 

Go Bills!

 

I wish I could react to this 100000x 

 

Great summation! 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

14 minutes ago, Raleigh • √eff said:

Is everyone 100% it was a catch? I never saw the camera angle I wanted to on the replays. 

what was humorous was the refs raced in there and in one millisecond called it a TD. It was like they were dying to call that a TD. Usually on a play like that, they might huddle or look to make sure the ball didn’t hit the ground or the other ref saw it the same way. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

40 minutes ago, Peter said:

 

I think I have.  Echo chamber also is an accurate description of the responses I have gotten from a couple of guys.

 

I think we should have defended the play better. Generic and some others think there is nothing that could have been done. We disagree.

 

In the process, I was called a troll after being a member here for two decades.  This discussion has reminded me why I hardly come by anymore after I used to spend hours here. Given that you are a moderator, you may want to consider that.

 

Be well.

I didnt mean to call you a troll my apologies... you are certainly entitled to your opinion I just honestly wasn't sure with that height comment.  Deandre hopkins literally makes his living making that exact kind of play.  It certainly couldve been disrupted from a pressure on the qb standpoint but once that somehow absurdly on target throw was in the air it was too late.  These others you speak of are certainly not arguing that deandre hopkins height similarity to Jordan poyer means hopkins doesn't have a huge advantage in a jump ball situation or that he shouldve been interfered with.  It was just an impossibly on target throw given the situation...if we had just let Murray sit in the pocket and fire a strike like that id be right there with you with being upset about it

[popcornpam]

Tony Dungee on Sunday Night Football just said he didn’t like the defense that Buffalo played that they just let the two good receivers run down the field without being  guarded from the line of Scrimmage. 
 

Our head coach didn’t even know that was gonna be a Hail Mary, he thought that they were going to throw another pass first. 

[BillsFan619]

41 minutes ago, folz said:

Some of you guys calling out players and saying the coaching staff should be fired are just ridiculous.

 

If not for a miracle, Hail Mary pass, we walk away with the win.

 

QBs throw INTs, players miss tackles, CBs get out jumped for balls. It happens. It's the NFL and the other guys get paid too. It was a great game to watch...people will be talking about it all week. The ending was like a punch to the gut, but the boys were still good enough to get the win, if not for a great play by two of the best players in the league. It was a good 'ol gunfight.

 

And just to give it some perspective, the Bills have not had their BYE yet, they had to travel cross country and play a late game, they came in pretty banged up, missing key players on COVID/Res---when Dane went down, we were missing 3 of our top 4 corners (and the one we did have was playing hurt), all against the number one offense in the league in their building (with some fans). And then losing Brown again hurt the offense. And despite all of that, we were a miracle play away from winning the game. I'm not making excuses for them or the loss (every team plays with adversity), but before you fire the coaches and start shipping players out, can you at least acknowledge that they weren't playing under perfect circumstances? It was a gut check game and despite not coming away with the win, I feel like they passed the test. They didn't pack it in with the BYE coming next week, after playing two emotional games in a row; they fought to the end, despite not playing their best ball.

 

And some of the takes on coaching decisions, I just don't agree with. You had exactly what you wanted on the Hail Mary with Poyer, Hyde, and Tre defending the ball. It didn't work out, but that is how you would want it designed. This idea of throwing Knox or a receiver in there isn't realistic. How much practice have they had at it? They might cause a PI, or let someone get away from them, or say the ball only gets to the 5 yard line, now they have to defend a guy like Hopkins. No. And getting the touchback on the last kickoff was the right call too. If you kick a squibb kick you take off maybe 3-4 seconds of clock tops (if that) vs. giving up 10-15 yards of field position. Odds favor the touchback there. It was the right decision.

 

The penalties were definitely an issue and that was disappointing. But I feel like the refs helped there too. I thought the one PI call against Worley was pretty tricky-tack and then on the next Bills position, an obvious PI call by AZ (against Gabe) was not made. And Neal was pretty hot on the holding call against him on that AZ punt and they never showed the replay, so I wonder about it. That took us out of AZ territory after a nice Roberts return with 4:38 left in the game. And then the next play was one of Allen's INTs. Overall they weren't that bad (the referees), but I did feel like they gave the Cards a few calls to help them get back in the game. But all of the pre-snap penalties by the Bills definitely need to be cleaned up over the BYE week.

 

It is a hugely disappointing loss because we had it there for a moment...it was in our grasp and we let it slip away, but I just can not get too down on the team for this one. They, by far, didn't have their best game and still almost game away with the win. I'm still excited (going forward) that the Bills made that last (almost game-winning) drive. Allen, Beasley, and Diggs were amazing on that drive, which bodes well. And even though the defense couldn't close it out and were playing with a depleted line-up, I felt that they continued their upward trajectory. Take the positives, work on the negatives, and move on. An NFC loss doesn't hurt too much, as far as the team's goals.

 

And people think this is a bad way to go into the BYE? Maybe it's not. Maybe this team stewing about this loss for two weeks...and hopefully getting healthy at the same time, will fuel them for a great stretch run of the season. And I'm not going to worry about Miami until I have to (week 17). We have a win against them and if we take care of business in that game, the threat will dissipate. 

 

Yes, loses suck, but this fire everyone sentiment, is so reactionary and pretty silly. One guy even said that it is time to move on from Poyer and Hyde. Poyer is playing at a Pro Bowl level and Hyde has been hurt. This is the best FO, coaching staff, and roster we have had in 20 years. They are winning games and going to the playoffs. Why would you want to break it up? Come on guys...stand by your men!

 

Go Bills!

 

I agree with you, bro!

 

I was upset that they lost but the disdain for players, coaches and players after a loss is crazy.

 

The last time I checked there was only two teams that played a perfect regular season. One of them didn’t even win the Super Bowl.

Edited November 16, 2020 by BillsFan619

[Turk71]

The Bills are the talk of the NFL and you can be sure to see that replay another hundred times.

  Reminds me of my friend from PC Utah who was on the Phi Slamma Jama U of H team and was Drexler's college roommate. Every year we would watch the NCAA tourney together and they would always show the replay of him looking on incredulously from the bench as Lorenzo Charles steals the 83 championship game in the final second. Man, he just hated seeing that over and over.

  At least this wasn't the Super Bowl.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

5 minutes ago, popcornpam said:

Tony Dungee on Sunday Night Football just said he didn’t like the defense that Buffalo played that they just let the two good receivers run down the field without being  guarded from the line of Scrimmage. 
 

Our head coach didn’t even know that was gonna be a Hail Mary, he thought that they were going to throw another pass first. 

i saw that segment and thought it was dumb. Dungy gets the benefit of hindsight, but what team is running bump and run on a Hail Mary? The conventional wisdom is to

drop everyone back to the endzone, which is what the Bills did. They then promptly covered the receivers. They just have to knock the ball down. 

 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

51 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

For sure and I agree.

 

But at the end of the day the ball is in the air and you have 3 vs 1. One of those guys has to knock it down. You have heavy odds/physics on your side and one of those 3 have to make a play.

I think they had to make a play on the ball on Hopkins way down with it...white looks like he tries to pull it out of Hopkins hands which was never gonna work...poyer looked like he was trying to destroy Hopkins as he was catching it and mistimed his break or something.  Im sure they're worried about tipping the pass away and another receiver catching it too

1 minute ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

i saw that segment and thought it was dumb. Dungy gets the benefit of hindsight, but what team is running bump and run on a Hail Mary? The conventional wisdom is to

drop everyone back to the endzone, which is what the Bills did. They then promptly covered the receivers. They just have to knock the ball down. 

 

Can you realistically jam Hopkins at the line with one defender...you've gotta think it would take two right? Seems risky if he finds a way to beat those two guys... idk if thats something defenses actually try

[Warcodered]

Honestly after this game the weakness we really got to work on is our running game, it was not there when we needed it.

[Motorin']

I think the Bills missed an opportunity to throw their own Hail Mary. Even though it was a scquib kick, Hyde could have fallen on the ball giving himself up. The clock doesn't start until there's possession. And giving himself up immediately leaves one second on the clock. You never know, there could have been a PI in the endzone.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

23 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Can you realistically jam Hopkins at the line with one defender...you've gotta think it would take two right? Seems risky if he finds a way to beat those two guys... idk if thats something defenses actually try

exactly. It’s idiotic. It will slow him up for what— a millisecond?— and then your DBs are running to catch up. 
 

I like Dungy, but that sounded like a garbage take. There’s no chance that the Bills would have prevented Hopkins from getting to the endzone. 

[whatdrought]

53 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Unfortunately, only one of them caught a game winning TD

 

Obviously, but in the context of the moment, they each beat their man and made the play their teams traded for them for. 

[Warcodered]

55 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Unfortunately, only one of them caught a game winning TD

That's something that's going to suck the most about this one, that was an incredible play and it's just going to get completely sidelined by Murray throwing up a wish.

[Turk71]

75 yards in 32 seconds, gotta love the prevent defense.

[Turk71]

27 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

That's something that's going to suck the most about this one, that was an incredible play and it's just going to get completely sidelined by Murray throwing up a wish.

Amazing throw and catch by Allen and Diggs, shame that wasn't the ending.  

[JESSEFEFFER]

3 hours ago, White Linen said:

 

C'mon

 

It's pretty widely known the defense can be pretty aggressive on the hail mary jump ball.  You don't have to agree for that to be true.

 

Poyer made the aggressive move but Tre White took the brunt if it basically knocking his hands out if the play.

[Simon]

1 hour ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Can you realistically jam Hopkins at the line with one defender...you've gotta think it would take two right? Seems risky if he finds a way to beat those two guys... idk if thats something defenses actually try

 

I'd be OK with trying to bang the hell out of him for 8-10 yards and see if stripes has the stones to throw a flag for what would only be a 5yrd penalty and would still cost them 1 play on the clock.

[muppy]

sickening feeling at the end watching Hopkins catch that ball.....the 5 stages of grief for a sports fan........denial, anger, bargaining aka bitching about wouda coulda shouldas,  depression and finally acceptance. 

 

Im at depressed with a chaser of acceptance creeping in this loss hurt because I just really thought they had pulled off the miracle less than a minute before.

 

we Bills fans will rebound we always do its truly the agony of defeat though tonight Im not gonna lie. 

[LABILLBACKER]

1 hour ago, Turk71 said:

75 yards in 32 seconds, gotta love the prevent defense.

Soft zone...no pass rush...what could possibly go wrong.

[BringMetheHeadofLeonLett]

It was a lucky damn pass.  7-3 at the 10 game mark is good with me.  2 weeks to rest up, then fire away.  We played a good game... get some sleep.  

[Do The Reich Thing]

1 hour ago, Muppy said:

sickening feeling at the end watching Hopkins catch that ball.....the 5 stages of grief for a sports fan........denial, anger, bargaining aka bitching about wouda coulda shouldas,  depression and finally acceptance. 

 

Im at depressed with a chaser of acceptance creeping in this loss hurt because I just really thought they had pulled off the miracle less than a minute before.

 

we Bills fans will rebound we always do its truly the agony of defeat though tonight Im not gonna lie. 

bro I've been depressed since the completion. I've been depressed since the Texans playoff game. I skip all the other stages apparently lol

2 hours ago, Turk71 said:

75 yards in 32 seconds, gotta love the prevent defense.

Reminds me of the prevent offense in the second half, with exception of the TD drive at the end

Edited November 16, 2020 by Do The Reich Thing

[Turk71]

1 hour ago, Muppy said:

sickening feeling at the end watching Hopkins catch that ball.....the 5 stages of grief for a sports fan........denial, anger, bargaining aka bitching about wouda coulda shouldas,  depression and finally acceptance. 

 

Im at depressed with a chaser of acceptance creeping in this loss hurt because I just really thought they had pulled off the miracle less than a minute before.

 

we Bills fans will rebound we always do its truly the agony of defeat though tonight Im not gonna lie. 

I don't disagree. Losing sucks but it's good to have a sense of humor. The Bills are 7-3 going into the bye. ***** like tonight shouldn't happen because you never let him catch that ball no matter what. But it happened, I'm glad they have an extra week to get over it. The Bills are pretty good and moving in the right direction I think. Way too soft at the end tonight and they should have continued pushing the ball downfield when they were up 2 scores and cruising. They ran into stacked boxes instead, should have buried them.

[Turk71]

13 minutes ago, Do The Reich Thing said:

bro I've been depressed since the completion. I've been depressed since the Texans playoff game. I skip all the other stages apparently lol

Reminds me of the prevent offense in the second half, with exception of the TD drive at the end

I know what you mean about the 2nd half prevent offense. Should have been going for the kill and burying their hope, instead they wasted possessions and plays running straight into stacked boxes. They knew how McD would play it with a 2 score lead and dared us to throw vertical, Bills instead played into their hands. 

  The unbelievably soft D after what should have been the winning TD was absolutely pathetic. That last play was embarrassing, nobody harassed, pushed with the body, I don't think anyone even hit him. You cannot let him catch that, it's not that hard. I'd move him. This team seems to be lacking aggression.

[Do The Reich Thing]

13 minutes ago, Turk71 said:

I know what you mean about the 2nd half prevent offense. Should have been going for the kill and burying their hope, instead they wasted possessions and plays running straight into stacked boxes. They knew how McD would play it with a 2 score lead and dared us to throw vertical, Bills instead played into their hands. 

  The unbelievably soft D after what should have been the winning TD was absolutely pathetic. That last play was embarrassing, nobody harassed, pushed with the body, I don't think anyone even hit him. You cannot let him catch that, it's not that hard. I'd move him. This team seems to be lacking aggression.

Bingo. The team echoes McD, which is great in a lot of aspects, but bad in this. I remember when Schwartz was the DC in a game (can’t recall the opponent. Packers or Miami?) the team had a Hail Mary shot and he blitzed 6 so the QB wouldn’t have enough time to get it down the field. Sure enough it was a sack and game over. 
 

Addison actually beat his man and was on Kyler, but he dove at him like an oaf instead of staying on his feet to contain him so he couldn’t get set and throw the ball. 
 

The big difference between the Bills and Miami right now is Miami keeps going for it when they get a lead. They play fearless, not fearful like the Bills. We were up 23-9 in the 3rd quarter. The game should’ve been over. Instead they dropped into a conservative shell, which we’ve seen them do 9x out of 10 under McD. It’s freaking embarrassing and it’s going to really bite us in a critical playoff game one year.

*edit: it already did in last year’s*
 

Happy to be 7-3, but this one hurts and it’s going to hurt all two weeks until they play again. McD needs to find his nuts in the bye week too. 

Edited November 16, 2020 by Do The Reich Thing

[Turk71]

9 minutes ago, Do The Reich Thing said:

Bingo. The team echoes McD, which is great in a lot of aspects, but bad in this. I remember when Schwartz was the DC in a game (can’t recall the opponent. Packers or Miami?) the team had a Hail Mary shot and he blitzed 6 so the QB wouldn’t have enough time to get it down the field. Sure enough it was a sack and game over. 
 

Addison actually beat his man and was on Kyler, but he dove at him like an oaf instead of staying on his feet to contain him so he couldn’t get set and throw the ball. 
 

The big difference between the Bills and Miami right now is Miami keeps going for it when they get a lead. They play fearless, not fearful like the Bills. We were up 23-9 in the 3rd quarter. The game should’ve been over. Instead they dropped into a conservative shell, which we’ve seen them do 9x out of 10 under McD. It’s freaking embarrassing and it’s going to really bite us in a critical playoff game one year.

*edit: it already did in last year’s*
 

Happy to be 7-3, but this one hurts and it’s going to hurt all two weeks until they play again. McD needs to find his nuts in the bye week too. 

  I agree, feeling good about 7-3 and an extra week to get over that disastrophy of an ending. If you are gonna be one of the best teams you can't let one game derail your ambition.

  I also agree that it is embarrassing when they play not to lose instead of playing to win. 

[Do The Reich Thing]

18 minutes ago, Turk71 said:

  I agree, feeling good about 7-3 and an extra week to get over that disastrophy of an ending. If you are gonna be one of the best teams you can't let one game derail your ambition.

  I also agree that it is embarrassing when they play not to lose instead of playing to win. 

It worries me because it’s becoming increasingly repetitive under this tenure. Hopefully this bye week comes with a lot of self-reflection for this coaching staff. 

Edited November 16, 2020 by Do The Reich Thing

[Turk71]

41 minutes ago, Do The Reich Thing said:

It worries me because it’s becoming increasingly repetitive under this tenure. Hopefully this bye week comes with a lot of self-reflection for this coaching staff. 

agree

[reddogblitz]

6 hours ago, Bob in STL said:

So does anyone think that was a planned Hail Mary?   Typically on a Hail Mary you send a few receivers to same spot in the end zone and bombs away.  
 

Murray bought time and lost time with the scramble.  He threw an incredible ball to Hopkins, the only Cardinal in sight.  
 

The throw was really incredible given the circumstances.  Murray knew not to run and not to throw to anyone else because his scramble took all the time.  
 

I just wonder if the call was to hit Hopkins deep and have him get out of bounds but the pressure and scramble led to the broken play end zone pass.  

 

I don't.

 

I think it just kind of turned out that way.

 

Cards had 3 WRs to the right and Hopkins on the left.  The dudes on the right ran 10-30 yards down field close to the side lines. Hopkins ran up the side line and stopped around the 20. I think he saw Murray scrambling and did the scramble drill thing and went long.  Murray saw him and just heaved it deep and Hopkins did the rest.

 

Doesn't seem like a planned Hail Mary to have only one WR in the EZ

[Doc Brown]

7 hours ago, Success said:

Can anyone explain why the nation is celebrating like the Bills are the Patriots and won 6 Super Bowls?

 

People are jubilant that we lost this game - far beyond just being excited about an amazing play in a neutral game.  It's weird.  We just got through decades of one of the worst decades-long fan experiences in the history of fandom.

 

 

The Cardinals are an easy team for people to root for.  They really haven't done much in their history but one Superbowl loss.  The D Hopkins trade will go down as one of the worst of all time and this just validates it.  O'Brien is a dislikeable figure.  God this game sucked.  We really haven't experienced a range of emotions like that since the MCM.

Edited November 16, 2020 by Doc Brown

[RunTheBall]

I haven’t read this thread because I know how many of our members will be in total meltdown sky-is-falling mode.

 

In no way do I think it’s good we lost the game, especially in the manner we did. That stings bad.

 

But, in the long run, maybe this type of gut wrenching defeat helps us out. That’s a nasty, bitter feeling we and the team get to enjoy for the next two weeks. I expect our team to play hungry and angry after the bye. I think this is going to give them a nasty edge we’ve been lacking. It sucks to lose, but getting humbled right before the stretch run may have some unintended positive effects.

 

 

[machine gun kelly]

10 hours ago, Do The Reich Thing said:

The division is tied just like that 

Reich, no it’s not.  We are 7-3, and the Fins are 6-3.  They need to win this week to tie it up.  We also have the Chargers and the beaten up 49ers the two weeks after the bye.  For the Niners, we should have Milano back.  The sky isn’t falling.  We just suffered a tough nail biting loss to the best division in the NFL and the best team in that division currently.  We were winning that game most of the game, and were winning again until the very last second of the game.  Everyone hates losing, but it’s not like how the Bengals just we’re crushed by the Steelers yesterday or for that matter the panthers in their division to the Bucs.  The Bucs came off a horrible loss to the Saints, and crushed the Panthers.  In two weeks, we could end up crushing the next two opponents.

 

Turn that frown upside down mister.

[dma0034]

Remaining schedule:

Vs. Chargers

@ 49ers

Vs. Steelers

@ Broncos

@ Patriots

Vs. Dolphins

 

Think the floor is 4-2 in that stretch but 5-1 is likely. That Steelers game is interesting

For Dolphins:

@Broncos

@ Jets

Vs. Bengals

Vs. Chiefs

Vs. Patriots

@Raiders

@Bills

 

Kind of seeing them going 4-3 or 5-2

If the Bills beat NE then the Bills will have the tie breaker

[NYGPopgun10]

Sometimes, crazy things happen in games. That was a wild game between two very good teams. Look at how great that drive was by Allen after the Bills blew the lead. He's definitely a resilient QB who can deliver in the clutch. Some great catches by Beasley and then Diggs on that TD. 

 

The Cards basically pulled off a miracle. It happens. Murray had like no room when he threw that. It was just a fluky play. Not sure why nobody tried to get in front and knock it down. White is a great cover guy. So yeah. Hopkins outleaped all three guys to catch it. A great play. But someone should've knocked it out. 

 

I think the Bills will be fine. A tough way to lose for sure. But they are a legit threat to Chiefs and Steelers. I still feel they win the division. They'll bounce back. The bye week comes at a perfect time. 

 

There's still a lot to like about them. They're never out of a game. Very good offense led by dual threat Allen and the amazing Diggs. Plus Brown and Beasley. I do wonder if being able to run it more with Singletary would help. Defense struggles to stop the run. But has guys out still. 

 

They have a shot to do something in January.