Per today's GM Call Titans likely to be made an example of by NFL...

[Dablitzkrieg]

Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Guesses?  Sounds like wild-ass speculation run amok.

Yes, wouldn't we all just be speculating at this point?🤣

[Doc]

25 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

Yikes!!

 

Remember, it's Florio.  He opined that the NFL wouldn't play games this past weekend...

[Returntoglory]

16 minutes ago, mattynh said:

 

No, but you did say "Screw what's fair. Whatever punishment the receive, regardless of how severe it may appear to some, is deserved." which obviously includes forfeiting.

Then I suppose it also must include castration, beheading, Forty lashes with a wet noodle, having to watch a continues loop of Scott Norwoods wide right....

 

"Come on Man"! 😉

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

Yes, wouldn't we all just be speculating at this point?🤣

 

Indeed. 

My point is that when a media figure collects some anonymous wild-ass speculation and puts it out there, people take it seriously like it's something that might really happen. 

 

When it's all so speculative and unlikely

[Doc]

Just now, Returntoglory said:

Then I suppose it also must include castration, beheading, Forty lashes with a wet noodle, having to watch a continues loop of Scott Norwoods wide right....

 

"Come on Man"! 😉

 

Don't forget...the comfy chair!

[Returntoglory]

Just now, Doc said:

 

Don't forget...the comfy chair!

Yes!

[In Summary]

The NFL needs to be clear on their penalty and game rescheduling policies.  When the season is half over, I find it hard to think players on 1-7 and 2-6 teams will comply with strict precautions.  By the end of the regular season, even less incentive.  If you're a playoff bound team and you play an eliminated and/or irresponsible team as one of your last two games..........

Edited October 8, 2020 by In Summary
Typos

[par73]

3 hours ago, JMF2006 said:

 

Do you really want to play them this week?

 

There is still talk of playing the game Monday...if so I hope Thursdays game is moved to next Sunday night.

I don't want the Bills anywhere near this mess for the foreseeable future.

[Dablitzkrieg]

6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Indeed. 

My point is that when a media figure collects some anonymous wild-ass speculation and puts it out there, people take it seriously like it's something that might really happen. 

 

When it's all so speculative and unlikely

Yes, but that's on the people who believe anything on the internet.  I mean it clearly states that he guesses.

[KD in CA]

57 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

Yikes!!

 

That seems extreme, but I suspect suspensions/fines/draft picks is how this will go.

 

There's not going to be a forfeit.  To the best of my knowledge, that's never happened before and I strongly doubt it's a bridge the league will cross unless there is absolutely no other option.

 

 

Edited October 8, 2020 by KD in CA

[3rdand12]

1 hour ago, Logic said:

I’ve gone back and forth, and as much as I want to watch the Bills play this Sunday, the health of the players is simply more important.

 

There’s no way the Bills players should have to fly to Tennessee and play a team that is STILL seeing new players test positive every day. 
 

Do I want a cancelled game or a win by forfeit? No. But both sound better than 10 Bills players getting COVID.

 

I’m onto the Chiefs.

I think this is about where i land as well.
Shame on the Titans.
if proven negligent, there also should be Team repurcussions.
Crazy everything year eh 

[WotAGuy]

Make them skip the draft entirely this year. That’ll show em. 

[Penfield45]

LOL nothings going to happen 

 

they will get a fine and thats it, we are playing the titans on Tuesday 

[3rdand12]

9 minutes ago, Returntoglory said:

Yes!

The wet noodle well predates the comfy chair, at least in written history. Nice work there Pops

[billsfan89]

6 minutes ago, In Summary said:

The NFL needs to be clear on their penalty and game rescheduling policies.  When the season is half over, I find it hard to think players on 1-7 and 2-6 teams will comply with strict precautions.  By the end of the regular season, even less incentive.  If you're a playoff bound team and you play an eliminated and/or irresponsible team as one of your last two games..........

 

Players on 1-7 and 2-6 teams are still playing for their careers and I doubt they want to take a 5 or 6 figure fine and risk possible long term damage a Covid infection might come with. It's more so the organization who needs to be steeply punished in a way that makes it so punitive that it isn't worth any risk to be careless. A massive fine and docking a 1st round pick seems kind of lite in my opinion. I don't know if forfeiting the games is a good idea but something more than money and draft picks needs to be involved.  

[3rdand12]

1 minute ago, Penfield45 said:

LOL nothings going to happen 

 

they will get a fine and thats it, we are playing the titans on Tuesday 

and then the Chiefs ?

[FLFan]

If only Florio had any credibility at all ... 

[1st&ten]

28 minutes ago, Beast said:

 

The exact same things as with what we are seeing with Tennessee.

 

The League office doesn't have a hard-on for the Bills.

 

I hope your right---the same league & comimish who wouldn't let Mike Vick sign with the Bills when he was coming off suspension. The same league that had new suspensions in the pipeline for Marshan Lynch but swept them under the rug when he went to Seattle  The same league that gave Gronk a slap on the hand for diving on a Bills player on the ground aiming a cast at him ?????   Hmmmm.

[Punching Bag]

1 hour ago, FlaFitz1 said:

I doubt the League will move the Thursday game to Saturday.

 

First they already sold that TV time and the sponsors would not be happy.  Thursday Night Football is a big money maker for the league.

 

Secondly, a Saturday game would be completely out of the question because they couldn't televise it.  The Sports Broadcasting Act of 1961 exempts the NFL broadcasting rights from antitrust laws.  That act forbids the NFL to broadcast games on Friday nights and Saturdays from the 2nd Friday in September through the 2nd Saturday in December.

 

I can't figure out why some supposed football pundits even floated that idea.

 

The only options would be a forfeit, moving the game to week 18 (which would most likely mean adding two weeks in between week 17 and the start of the wild card round) or having the Chiefs play the Bills on Sunday instead of the Raiders and the Titans face the Raiders on Thursday (which would be logistically next to impossible at this point.

 

Looking at the options the most likely would seem to either make the Titans play on Sunday as scheduled with no practice ahead and the facility closed until that day or a forfeit, which I would hate to see. 

 

Good at finding but not good at interpreting laywerese.

 

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title15/chapter32&edition=prelim

§1291. Exemption from antitrust laws of agreements covering the telecasting of sports contests and the combining of professional football leagues

The antitrust laws, as defined in section 1 of the Act of October 15, 1914, as amended (38 Stat. 730) [15 U.S.C. 12], or in the Federal Trade Commission Act, as amended (38 Stat. 717) [15 U.S.C. 41 et seq.], shall not apply to any joint agreement by or among persons engaging in or conducting the organized professional team sports of football, baseball, basketball, or hockey, by which any league of clubs participating in professional football, baseball, basketball, or hockey contests sells or otherwise transfers all or any part of the rights of such league's member clubs in the sponsored telecasting of the games of football, baseball, basketball, or hockey, as the case may be, engaged in or conducted by such clubs. In addition, such laws shall not apply to a joint agreement by which the member clubs of two or more professional football leagues, which are exempt from income tax under section 501(c)(6) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 [26 U.S.C. 501(c)(6)], combine their operations in expanded single league so exempt from income tax, if such agreement increases rather than decreases the number of professional football clubs so operating, and the provisions of which are directly relevant thereto

§1293. Intercollegiate and interscholastic football contest limitations

The first sentence of section 1291 of this title shall not apply to any joint agreement described in such section which permits the telecasting of all or a substantial part of any professional football game on any Friday after six o'clock postmeridian or on any Saturday during the period beginning on the second Friday in September and ending on the second Saturday in December in any year from any telecasting station located within seventy-five miles of the game site of any intercollegiate or interscholastic football contest scheduled to be played on such a date if—

(1) such intercollegiate football contest is between institutions of higher learning both of which confer degrees upon students following completion of sufficient credit hours to equal a four-year course, or

(2) in the case of an interscholastic football contest, such contest is between secondary schools, both of which are accredited or certified under the laws of the State or States in which they are situated and offer courses continuing through the twelfth grade of the standard school curriculum, or the equivalent, and

(3) such intercollegiate or interscholastic football contest and such game site were announced through publication in a newspaper of general circulation prior to August 1 of such year as being regularly scheduled for such day and place.

5 minutes ago, 1st&ten said:

 

I hope your right---the same league & comimish who wouldn't let Mike Vick sign with the Bills when he was coming off suspension. The same league that had new suspensions in the pipeline for Marshan Lynch but swept them under the rug when he went to Seattle  The same league that gave Gronk a slap on the hand for diving on a Bills player on the ground aiming a cast at him ?????   Hmmmm.

 

It was not a cast - it was a METAL brace.  Plaster casts break easily as I learned when I broke my cast (from football) hitting someone in head who pinned my good arm in locker. 

Edited October 8, 2020 by Limeaid

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

It took them a year to deal out a Kraft Verdict but now they suddenly have all their ducks in a row to deal with this. Total ***** show for a Multi Billion dollar company.

[Matt_In_NH]

46 minutes ago, Returntoglory said:

Then I suppose it also must include castration, beheading, Forty lashes with a wet noodle, having to watch a continues loop of Scott Norwoods wide right....

 

"Come on Man"! 😉

So you did not intend forfeit as one option?   What did it include?  Let’s have some teasonableness and consider the options the commissioner laid out which includes lost picks, fines, suspensions and forfeits as possible punishments .   It did not include that other nonsense you are throwing out there.  It was absolutely reasonable  to assume forfeit was on the table given your strong words and the reasonable happening in nfl circles.   You should be more specific in the future if you are going to get all offended when you leave something open ended.  
 

You could have responded with “ I don’t agree with a forfeit but they should lose two first round picks” and clear up your vague statement.  
 

 Come on man!!!!

 

 

[GunnerBill]

If the Titans are the one team threatening the NFL season and it turns out after investigation it is because they failed to act appropriately in managing an outbreak then I would suspend their membership of the league, revoke their 3 wins and give those games to the teams they beat and give everyone still to play them a free victory. A further result of their suspension means 0 draft picks in the 2021 draft though I'd let them sign FAs and UDFAs. 

 

It is why they would never in reality let me administer a sports league. Because I am a regulator who actually believes in regulating. 

[Returntoglory]

58 minutes ago, mattynh said:

So you did not intend forfeit as one option?   What did it include?  Let’s have some teasonableness and consider the options the commissioner laid out which includes lost picks, fines, suspensions and forfeits as possible punishments .   It did not include that other nonsense you are throwing out there.  It was absolutely reasonable  to assume forfeit was on the table given your strong words and the reasonable happening in nfl circles.   You should be more specific in the future if you are going to get all offended when you leave something open ended.  
 

You could have responded with “ I don’t agree with a forfeit but they should lose two first round picks” and clear up your vague statement.  
 

 Come on man!!!!

 

 

Dude. You've got entirely too much time on your hands. 

 

Next time I contemplate responding to a post, I'll be sure to solicit your opinion as to what I should say. 

 

Now COME ON MAN!!!!

[NewEra]

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

If the Titans are the one team threatening the NFL season and it turns out after investigation it is because they failed to act appropriately in managing an outbreak then I would suspend their membership of the league, revoke their 3 wins and give those games to the teams they beat and give everyone still to play them a free victory. A further result of their suspension means 0 draft picks in the 2021 draft though I'd let them sign FAs and UDFAs. 

 

It is why they would never in reality let me administer a sports league. Because I am a regulator who actually believes in regulating. 

I just said the same exact thing to my wife.  👍🏻Teams wouldn’t **** around.

 

 

[PrimeTime101]

this is a great example

 

[Matt_In_NH]

6 minutes ago, Returntoglory said:

Dude. You've got entirely too much time on your hands. 

 

Next time I contemplate responding to a post, I'll be sure to solicit your opinion as to what I should say. 

 

Now COME ON MAN!!!!

Think it through next time.  You can do it!

[Sherlock Holmes]

37 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

If the Titans are the one team threatening the NFL season and it turns out after investigation it is because they failed to act appropriately in managing an outbreak then I would suspend their membership of the league, revoke their 3 wins and give those games to the teams they beat and give everyone still to play them a free victory. A further result of their suspension means 0 draft picks in the 2021 draft though I'd let them sign FAs and UDFAs. 

 

It is why they would never in reality let me administer a sports league. Because I am a regulator who actually believes in regulating. 

Also, we should get their draft picks for life since it is technically a life or death situation, correct?

[PetermansRedemption]

44 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

this is a great example

 

Came here to post this. The NFL is really sticking it to the Titans 😂 

[Returntoglory]

1 hour ago, mattynh said:

Think it through next time.  You can do it!

Want to meet for a beer? 

[NoSaint]

8 hours ago, mattynh said:

would you want that?

yes. Without any hesitation.

[DrDawkinstein]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

If the Titans are the one team threatening the NFL season and it turns out after investigation it is because they failed to act appropriately in managing an outbreak then I would suspend their membership of the league, revoke their 3 wins and give those games to the teams they beat and give everyone still to play them a free victory. A further result of their suspension means 0 draft picks in the 2021 draft though I'd let them sign FAs and UDFAs. 

 

It is why they would never in reality let me administer a sports league. Because I am a regulator who actually believes in regulating. 

 

 

[NoSaint]

6 hours ago, Returntoglory said:

I love when people mention the word "Fair".

This team has blatantly disregarded league rules in regards to COVID-19 and put many people at risk, both on and off the field, and they were sat down as a group in a team meeting and were briefed!
"

The Tennessee Titans were informed on Sept. 29 that in-person gatherings had been banned because of the organization's ongoing coronavirus outbreak, a league source told ESPN's Dan Graziano, meaning that the players' informal workouts the following day were unauthorized and a violation of the NFL's virus-related protocols.

A group of Titans players held a workout at a Nashville school on Sept. 30, one day after the organization closed its facility. The Titans have had 23 positive tests for COVID-19 since Sept. 24, with another player testing positive for the virus Thursday, according to ESPN and reports."

Screw what's fair. Whatever punishment the receive, regardless of how severe it may appear to some, is deserved.

I know if I was playing against this team I would not want to take the chance of lining up or tackling.

"Fair". Pfffftttttt.....

 

yup. Fair was them following the rules that everyone else is. 
 

this isn’t bending slightly or a few chuckleheads... it was full scale organizational defiance that will cost the league money, players money and puts health at risk. 
 

it’s going to be a historic consequence.

[Returntoglory]

3 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

yup. Fair was them following the rules that everyone else is. 
 

this isn’t bending slightly or a few chuckleheads... it was full scale organizational defiance that will cost the league money, players money and puts health at risk. 
 

it’s going to be a historic consequence.

Well put NoSaint!

[BarleyNY]

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2912543-report-sentiment-among-nfl-teams-titans-should-forfeit-vs-bills-after-outbreak.amp.html

 

Looks like a lot of people want the Titans to forfeit.  That surprises me, but it’s out there.  Looks like the punishment will be severe. 

[Paulus]

9 hours ago, mattynh said:

would you want that?

Yes, rather than exposing the Bills' team to possible infection.

34 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

yup. Fair was them following the rules that everyone else is. 
 

this isn’t bending slightly or a few chuckleheads... it was full scale organizational defiance that will cost the league money, players money and puts health at risk. 
 

it’s going to be a historic consequence.

I hope you're right, but I have my reservations...

[Da webster guy]

8 hours ago, mattynh said:

 

Unprecedented, all the other leagues are also dealing with Covid, which ones are using forfeits?  I am obviously in the minority here....I don't want a free win, I want to earn them.....and I dont say that like I am part of the Bills, that is how I personally live my life.

 

Well, looks like we are gettin the chance.  These next two teams were the hottest in the league for most of the year last season would be ok to split wins, unbelievably great if we could sweep.

 

Never thought i'd say this but Tuesday Night Football here come the Bills !

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, BarleyNY said:

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2912543-report-sentiment-among-nfl-teams-titans-should-forfeit-vs-bills-after-outbreak.amp.html

 

Looks like a lot of people want the Titans to forfeit.  That surprises me, but it’s out there.  Looks like the punishment will be severe. 

 

I’ll believe it when I see it.  I think it’s wrist slaps and whacks with wet noodles for all

[MJS]

10 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

I’ll believe it when I see it.  I think it’s wrist slaps and whacks with wet noodles for all

 

So far we just seem to have speculation. I'm with you. Just have to wait and see.

[Augie]

9 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I’ll believe it when I see it.  I think it’s wrist slaps and whacks with wet noodles for all

 

Financial penalties are a joke. We hear $250k and think it’s devastating! A fortune!

 

It’s a drop in the bucket, half of what a backup LB gets signed for mid-season. 

 

Crazy times......

[Mango]

14 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I’ll believe it when I see it.  I think it’s wrist slaps and whacks with wet noodles for all

Curious on your thoughts on a 2 game suspension for players who attended off campus practices. 2 games because they’ve had to reschedule two games. 
 

Granted that could be 30 players since it sounds like there were 3 positional practices. But that’s a different problem that needs a different solution all together.