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Probably the worst play was the Injury Play.  It’s one of those plays where you realize Allen is probably never going to learn that every play isn’t the last play of the game.  It’s going  by to take a more serious injury to hammer it home.  And that sucks for him...the team and the fans.  But it is where it is trending.

 

So that play probably drops the grade to a B+.

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2 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

I don't even have words for this foolishness


So, out of all 4 of his games, you think this one was better than his against Miami and the Rams?

 

That’s all I’m saying and explaining why 

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Just now, RalphWilson'sNewWar said:

Probably the worst play was the Injury Play.  It’s one of those plays where you realize Allen is probably never going to learn that every play isn’t the last play of the game.  It’s going  by to take a more serious injury to hammer it home.  And that sucks for him...the team and the fans.  But it is where it is trending.

 

So that play probably drops the grade to a B+.

 

He will never learn that and to be honest I don't want him to. It is the hero inside him that makes him great. You are going to have to live with a few bad moments as a result, but the good outweighs the bad so we are fine.

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1 minute ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said:

Probably the worst play was the Injury Play.

 

This is nonsense. That was one of his best plays of the game. If your QB can't run and take a hit in 2020 you don't have a QB. Brady is the lone exception right now.

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Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

He will never learn that and to be honest I don't want him to. It is the hero inside him that makes him great. You are going to have to live with a few bad moments as a result, but the good outweighs the bad so we are fine.

Exactly. Josh is always going to have that risk/reward to him which makes him great as usually the good outweighs the bad. 

 

Or we can just have a conservative QB and sign Tyrod Taylor back..

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2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

He will never learn that and to be honest I don't want him to. It is the hero inside him that makes him great. You are going to have to live with a few bad moments as a result, but the good outweighs the bad so we are fine.

Exactly. It's what lets Josh be Josh. If he did what people want him to do, he would have 2-3 less bad plays and 9-10 less good ones. Unless you expect him to make the right decision 99% of the time, which is stupid.

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1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

 

This is nonsense. That was one of his best plays of the game. If your QB can't run and take a hit in 2020 you don't have a QB. Brady is the lone exception right now.

Not even close.

 

its one of the worst considering the situation.  Your up 14-6 already in field goal range.  You dump the ball into the stands, stay clean and get the 3.

 

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31 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said:

No 300 yard game. He sux.

 

haha. Apart from that bizarre 3rd down he was great again.

2 15 yard drops. One catch gives him 303yds. Im happy to talk you off the edge. No need to thank me. BTW, saw your sarcasm. 

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33 minutes ago, rayray808 said:

WEEK ONE: B+

WEEK TWO: A+

WEEK THREE: B+

 

WEEK FOUR: A-

 

24/34 - 71% completion - 288 yards - 2 TDs passing - 1 TD rushing - 0 turnovers

 

He had one bad play. That's it. So for those who want to harp on the late sack he took that got us out of field goal range, here is me recognizing that yes, it was a bad play. Now let's move on to the rest of the game...

 

Unreal accuracy and poise shown today. The bad drops today didn't break him and cause the offense to unravel like it has done in the past. Just darts all over the field. The fastball and change up was working. Short passes. Deep passes. He had it all. The what should have been TD pass to John Brown as just amazing. The laser to Beasley was a throw not many in the league could make. There was no trickery, and broken plays needed. Josh Allen did it with his arm today.

 

There was a moment after he got hurt where the season flashed before my eyes. If he would have broken his collarbone I honestly have no idea where we would be as a team. Perhaps that "Plan B" is something we should start thinking about as the W's pile up?

 

This now marks 4 games in a row where we saw Josh Allen the passer. Josh Allen the franchise QB. Josh Allen the AFC offensive player of the month. Josh Allen... the potential MVP.

 

GO BILLS!


So why A- and not an A or A+?  You are always at least a half grad too low every week.  I mean reading your notes, you would think for sure it’s an A.  

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34 minutes ago, rayray808 said:

WEEK ONE: B+

WEEK TWO: A+

WEEK THREE: B+

 

WEEK FOUR: A-

 

24/34 - 71% completion - 288 yards - 2 TDs passing - 1 TD rushing - 0 turnovers

 

He had one bad play. That's it. So for those who want to harp on the late sack he took that got us out of field goal range, here is me recognizing that yes, it was a bad play. Now let's move on to the rest of the game...

 

Unreal accuracy and poise shown today. The bad drops today didn't break him and cause the offense to unravel like it has done in the past. Just darts all over the field. The fastball and change up was working. Short passes. Deep passes. He had it all. The what should have been TD pass to John Brown as just amazing. The laser to Beasley was a throw not many in the league could make. There was no trickery, and broken plays needed. Josh Allen did it with his arm today.

 

There was a moment after he got hurt where the season flashed before my eyes. If he would have broken his collarbone I honestly have no idea where we would be as a team. Perhaps that "Plan B" is something we should start thinking about as the W's pile up?

 

This now marks 4 games in a row where we saw Josh Allen the passer. Josh Allen the franchise QB. Josh Allen the AFC offensive player of the month. Josh Allen... the potential MVP.

 

GO BILLS!

Ya when josh went down I thought the game was over. A good backup would be nice

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4 minutes ago, Virgil said:


So, out of all 4 of his games, you think this one was better than his against Miami and the Rams?

 

That’s all I’m saying and explaining why 

 

Yep I'll say it again - this was the most consistent game of his career. Dolphins was overall better because he had to make huge plays at the end. As far as managing a game goes this was as good as it gets.

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34 minutes ago, rayray808 said:

WEEK ONE: B+

WEEK TWO: A+

WEEK THREE: B+

 

WEEK FOUR: A-

 

24/34 - 71% completion - 288 yards - 2 TDs passing - 1 TD rushing - 0 turnovers

 

He had one bad play. That's it. So for those who want to harp on the late sack he took that got us out of field goal range, here is me recognizing that yes, it was a bad play. Now let's move on to the rest of the game...

 

Unreal accuracy and poise shown today. The bad drops today didn't break him and cause the offense to unravel like it has done in the past. Just darts all over the field. The fastball and change up was working. Short passes. Deep passes. He had it all. The what should have been TD pass to John Brown as just amazing. The laser to Beasley was a throw not many in the league could make. There was no trickery, and broken plays needed. Josh Allen did it with his arm today.

 

There was a moment after he got hurt where the season flashed before my eyes. If he would have broken his collarbone I honestly have no idea where we would be as a team. Perhaps that "Plan B" is something we should start thinking about as the W's pile up?

 

This now marks 4 games in a row where we saw Josh Allen the passer. Josh Allen the franchise QB. Josh Allen the AFC offensive player of the month. Josh Allen... the potential MVP.

 

GO BILLS!

Beautiful analysis. This guy is right there with the top QBs in the NFL. Have you noticed he doesn't run that much anymore, because he's putting a priority on taking care of the football. 

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3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

He will never learn that and to be honest I don't want him to. It is the hero inside him that makes him great. You are going to have to live with a few bad moments as a result, but the good outweighs the bad so we are fine.

I don’t mind the bad moments when it’s warranted.

 

You need to sell out to get into field goal range at end of half/game...get a 1st down/touchdown or game is over.

 

by all means.

 

But you have a 8 point lead in the second quarter.  And your doing a play like that that makes it appear that it’s the end of the game.

 

No way dude.  It’s just not a smart play.  And look what happened...he ran to locker room.

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I’m good with A - A minus. He has total control of this offense right now and once again made  some insane throws to Beasley and Smoke that I’m not sure many qbs make. I’m not happy with the sack but I think this 
 

Right now he has a huge load to carry on his shoulder. He has to carry us because we are lacking in other areas. Like we had guys drop three straight balls on him, kicker misses an extra point, for three quarters Carr is throwing all over us with replacement receivers.. at some point It’s gotta wear mentally

 

I think  maybe the Coaches  wanted him to protect him coming out of half, play it a bit safe get him loose again. I also think late in the game  our coaches wanted to score again keep throwing  let’s get some confidence with another td and learn to put teams away. 
 

some guys stepped up big time in the fourth for us that was great! I want to see bigger players from our d for four quarters, bend and don’t break is going to cost us at some point. 

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3 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

It may been said but the sack took him under 300

No it didn't. Sacks don't reduce a QBs passing yards. 

1 minute ago, BillsFanSD said:

We lose this game, and lose it badly, without Allen.

 

No grade, just saying that Josh Allen is literally carrying this team right now.

MVP

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16 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

A- 

 

The sack was really that bad but it was really his only mistake in an otherwise good day.

 

So do you not give higher than an A- grade? If you're saying a one mistake game is an A- that must be the highest you'll go.

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Just now, HappyDays said:

 

So do you not give higher than an A- grade? If you're saying a one mistake game is an A- that must be the highest you'll go.

Even though it was not a turnover, that mistake was far bigger than a normal play where he does the same thing by knocking us out of FG range in a 14 point game which all but wins it. That takes it from a stupid mistake to an intolerable mistake. And in turn, we likely had to recover an onside kick to secure the win. Not that Bass's FG would have been automatic but still.

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2 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

Even though it was not a turnover, that mistake was far bigger than a normal play where he does the same thing by knocking us out of FG range in a 14 point game which all but wins it. That takes it from a stupid mistake to an intolerable mistake. And in turn, we likely had to recover an onside kick to secure the win. Not that Bass's FG would have been automatic but still.

 

You can find a costly mistake from every QB in every game. Against Miami he almost threw a pick six. The overreaction to one play is classic fan tunnel vision. And like you said above the mindset that causes that bad play will be responsible for five good plays.

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The drops were more on Josh than the receivers. Hard throws down below the knees on the move. He seemed a bit jumpy after the injury bet settled back down. The sack was old Josh rearing its head. 

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Just now, HappyDays said:

 

You can find a costly mistake from every QB in every game. Against Miami he almost threw a pick six. This is classic fan tunnel vision.

Of course you can. But the time of the game is a huge factor in whether the mistake is consequential or non-consequential. That play is a nothing in the first half, but rather large when it happened.

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24 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said:

Not even close.

 

its one of the worst considering the situation.  Your up 14-6 already in field goal range.  You dump the ball into the stands, stay clean and get the 3.

 

 

No thanks. I love that Allen can turn a broken play into a miracle completion that brings up 4th and short. Do you watch Patrick Mahomes play? This is the style that QBs are winning with right now.

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Just now, HappyDays said:

 

No thanks. I love that Allen can turn a broken play into a miracle completion that brings up 4th and short. Do you watch Patrick Mahomes play? This is the style that QBs are winning with right now.

I rarely, rarely criticize Josh for those kinds of plays. I totally accept his hero ball and never want to stifle or censor him in any way when he tries to make a play to win the game. The risk reward is 90% in his favor. The bonehead play people are talking about was not that. It was plain dumb.

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