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Unpopular take here...Tre is playing very meh


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1 minute ago, Dr.Sack said:

When a team comes from behind they will throw at all targets that are open. To me White is simply playing the concept of the defense which is to keep everything in front of him.  

But issue is that he's not coming up and tackling....thats the idea of that D.  

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I love White as a person but I would rather spend that money on a DT,DE,OT, WR, OLB. I think I saw White covering Everett today 3 times when he should've been glued to Woods or Kupp. I'm not a big fan of giving the CB position that kind of money, I would rather draft, develop and trade or franchise at that position. 

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10 minutes ago, Hebert19 said:

he's already been burned more this year than last...and his run support and tackling has been non existent.  

 

A couple times today he actually looked like he avoided contact.  

 

Thoughts?   


thought the exact same thing today regarding avoid contact.

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The entire D is not up to snuff. 

Hell -- defenses across the entire LEAGUE are not up to snuff.

For whatever reason, the lack of offseason, preseason, and fans in the stands seems to have hurt NFL defenses more than offenses.

Things will even out over time, I think.

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3 minutes ago, Real McNasty said:

I think the lack of crowd noise is playing into this big time, 12th man is real.

 

I think we need a true leader on D as well. 

With all due respect, I think we need to stop with the excuses for the defence.

 

Last week it was no Milano and Edmunds which is “why” Miami gashed them, this week it’s the no crowd noise and no preseason.

 

Its time for the Bills defence to start playing better.

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15 minutes ago, Gene1973 said:

I agree. Never thought he'd be the type of player to fall off after signing a big extension. Either that or he's playing hurt...

He signed a big extension five seconds ago. 

 

Let's wait a few minutes before we go there.

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1 minute ago, BillsFan130 said:

With all due respect, I think we need to stop with the excuses for the defence.

 

Last week it was no Milano and Edmunds which is “why” Miami gashed them, this week it’s the no crowd noise and no preseason.

 

Its time for the Bills defence to start playing better.

I'm with you and totally agree. All that we can do is look at what is different. 

 

No Lorax?

No Phillips?

No Shaq?

No Star?

No Crowd?

 

We are getting destroyed right know up the gut. Edmunds is totally hit or miss in run support. From above all I can see is the leadership in Lorax missing, Star hurt and lack of Crowd. 

 

 

 

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Just now, NewEra said:

This.  I thought the thread was about him.

 

tremaine was awful today

 

I'm actually very confused as to who the thread is supposed to be about. Re-reading the OP, could still go either way. I guess it's saying something that it could be about either of them.

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I think the offenses all around the league are ahead of the defenses.   Jalen Ramsey looked like an idiot on one TD pass.  The OCs know how to attack the defenses right now.   

 

Give it a few more weeks, it's going to get tougher to pass.   For the Bills, too.  

 

These are important games to win, before the season turns into the usual November December dogfights. 

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Just now, Real McNasty said:

I'm with you and totally agree. All that we can do is look at what is different. 

 

No Lorax?

No Phillips?

No Shaq?

No Star?

No Crowd?

 

We are getting destroyed right know up the gut. Edmunds is totally hit or miss in run support. From above all I can see is the leadership in Lorax missing, Star hurt and lack of Crowd. 

 

 

 

Fair points buddy and I agree as well

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Just now, Shaw66 said:

I think the offenses all around the league are ahead of the defenses.   Jalen Ramsey looked like an idiot on one TD pass.  The OCs know how to attack the defenses right now.   

 

Give it a few more weeks, it's going to get tougher to pass.   For the Bills, too.  

 

These are important games to win, before the season turns into the usual November December dogfights. 

 

He got fooled hard on at least 2 TDs actually. But one got called back.

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White has been underperforming, so has Edmunds.  Whatever “Tre” you’re taking about lol. As stated by many, the whole defense is subpar right now. Defenses around the NFL are getting torched.

 

Idk what Is going, but I have faith in the skill, coaching and intelligence of this defense that they’ll figure it out in the next couple weeks. 

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20 minutes ago, Gene1973 said:

I agree. Never thought he'd be the type of player to fall off after signing a big extension. Either that or he's playing hurt...


Or he just had a couple less than perfect plays coming off a bizarre offseason.

 

but maybe he decided to start coasting 3 weeks ago. Maybe. 

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12 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

I love White as a person but I would rather spend that money on a DT,DE,OT, WR, OLB. I think I saw White covering Everett today 3 times when he should've been glued to Woods or Kupp. I'm not a big fan of giving the CB position that kind of money, I would rather draft, develop and trade or franchise at that position. 

Look what happened to Carolina's defense when Norman left.  A #1 CB is crucial for a defense.

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Just now, Whkfc said:

They are missing the inside pass rush of Jordan Phillips more than i think most realize.

I'd say Star clogging up those double teams is the bigger loss.  He's always been underappreciated because of his contract and lack of sacks.

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1 minute ago, Doc Brown said:

Look what happened to Carolina's defense when Norman left.  A #1 CB is crucial for a defense.

You need to look at the Washington Washingtons Norman because that is how he played after he got paid. I don't want to call them the Redskins because I might get a infraction. 

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1 minute ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

You need to look at the Washington Washingtons Norman because that is how he played after he got paid. I don't want to call them the Redskins because I might get a infraction. 

Thank you for your enormous sacrifice.  His skill set fit better in McDermott's system than the Football Team's.

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29 minutes ago, Azucho98 said:

The entire D is playing very "meh".  It almost seems like they are confident the offense will bail them out....The D-Line was nowhere today.

I think you hit the nail on the head. In past years they knew they couldn’t give up more then 17. 

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10 minutes ago, Whkfc said:

They are missing the inside pass rush of Jordan Phillips more than i think most realize.

Not missing Phillips per say, but they could use a top tier pass rusher and/ penetrator on the D line. Also doesn’t help that Star is out.... I think Edmunds needs a space eater in front of him to function at top level. 

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26 minutes ago, Real McNasty said:

I think the lack of crowd noise is playing into this big time, 12th man is real.

 

I think we need a true leader on D as well. 


 

I also think a distinct lack of tackling in preseason is playing a huge part.

 

Even when they let them finally practice it was with such limited contact - very hard to get a rhythm on defense and conversely allowed offense time to gel.

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