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30 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

Phillips was terrible against the run. 
Not saying the Bills don’t need to do something, but Phillips didn’t fix the problem last year. 

 

He put pressure on the QB, something we are also struggling with.

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4 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

 

Jordan Phillips was bad against the run... In fact Star was there when the team went through a stretch of bad run defense last year. It was only scheme adjustments and improved play from the D-line that got the team on track when it hit that mid-year slump.

This is a good point and shows a trend. How many blowouts have we seen mcds defense give up over the years.  And all the times it has been horrible run defense with our middle being gashed. How many times have we had to bring in players to help stop the horrific run defense!?  I know we have seen this at least twice in mcds tenure.  This time we fortunately didn’t lose because of such an improved offense but this is not a consistent way to win Needing 4 th quarter comebacks weekly. 
Let’s hope this is not another 3 game stretch to get the run d corrected.  Edmunds , if he was hurt should have been subbed. He was awful other than one hit. Trey also looked lost at times. Something is wrong with the scheme or communication.  Rams are good but they came back from 28-3 and once again we should have easily cruised from that point.  The terrible interception changed momentum but we still had an 11 point lead after that. Hard to explain that collapse but we have seen this too many times with this D. Remember Houston?   No lead is safe with this situation. Is it Frazier , Mcd, or lack of leadership by vets?  Not sure but this takes the luster from an amazing offensive performance. Maybe just an aberration,,,,but if it persists I bring up Zimmer , love, and consider more Dodson. Doubt we have cap space to add from outside.  Great win but definite red flags. Btw, Wallace did have a nice pick in first half. Our d line was getting some pressure early but that disappeared in second half. 

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6 hours ago, NoSaint said:

Welcome to Winning in the Nfl. 
 

you have to score a lot and hopefully your defense holds up for stretches along the way.

 

It's week to week and it seldom makes sense most of the time.

 

How do the Chargers put the clamps on the Chiefs last week but then can't stop the Panthers this week?

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1 hour ago, Luka said:

 

He put pressure on the QB, something we are also struggling with.

We didn’t struggle putting pressure in week 1 and 2.  We applied good pressure in the first quarter today, then they ruled the day with the run and play action off the run.  
 

he didn’t get that much pressure on the QB.  When he applied pressure, he got sacks.  9.5.  Don’t get me wrong, 9.5 sacks for a DT is impressive, but it’s not representative of his play each and every game.  
 

he wasn’t very good vs the run and our run d was a problem today. Missing him has nothing to do with our regression on D after 3 games

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What’s good, gents? What’s good?

 

Since McDermott took over, the defense has been excellent, but has gone through periods like this where they put up a few clunkers. That 3 week stretch in 2017 where we were losing 50-3 every week was enough for YE OLE to start thinking McBean wouldn’t see year 2.
 

But somehow McDermott and his staff always get it back together. As bad as it’s looked for stretches these last couple of weeks, there’s very good reason to believe that this defense starts playing lights out again and McDermott talks about going back to watch the tape, making corrections, PROCESS, etc. If that does happen and Allen is apparently an MVP level QB, it’s probably not going to go very well for the rest of the teams on our schedule.

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I think it is a good idea. Corey Luiget is still out there as well. I thought he was very good against the run last year and gave us some nice pass rush push as well. Other guys out there who woul help, Kyle Love (former Panther) and Brandon Mebane. All stout nose tackle types. Snacks is the splashier move but Luiget is an easy add. 
 

Raiders have a strong power run game with Jacobs,  multiple tight ends, and use a very good fullback in Ingold. This week will be a very tough test in gap integrity and toughness. 

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11 hours ago, NewEra said:

We didn’t struggle putting pressure in week 1 and 2.  We applied good pressure in the first quarter today, then they ruled the day with the run and play action off the run.  
 

he didn’t get that much pressure on the QB.  When he applied pressure, he got sacks.  9.5.  Don’t get me wrong, 9.5 sacks for a DT is impressive, but it’s not representative of his play each and every game.  
 

he wasn’t very good vs the run and our run d was a problem today. Missing him has nothing to do with our regression on D after 3 games

 

So between Phillips, Star and Lawson all being gone from last year's D Line, you don't see an issue with the defense and none of those players missing, especially the guy who could get to the QB and blow up some of that play action. Well ok then lol.

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5 minutes ago, Luka said:

 

So between Phillips, Star and Lawson all being gone from last year's D Line, you don't see an issue with the defense and none of those players missing, especially the guy who could get to the QB and blow up some of that play action. Well ok then lol.

No, I don’t think losing Jordan Phillips and replacing him with Quinten Jefferson has hurt our D.  


No, I don’t think star opting out and replacing him with Vernon butler has hurt our D.

 

no, I don’t think losing Shaq Lawson and replacing him with Mario addison has hurt our D.  
 

I think that the makeshift offseason, having no fans, tremaine sucking, Tre’Davious not playing like he did last year and not playing the terrible offenses we played last year has more to do with it than the additions/subtractions.  

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19 hours ago, Brennan Huff said:

***** sign him right now. The defense has become the glaring weakness of the team

 

 

We don't have the money. They will save the $4 mill they have left for any replacements they need to make for injuries.

 

 

16 hours ago, apuszczalowski said:

I've been saying that for a while, the NFL right now requires an offence that can put up big points, there are very few defences that are going to be able to stop most offences to allow you to win close games regularly

 

 

Equally there are very few offenses that will run through most defenses well enough to win close games regularly.

 

You need both to be good and hopefully one to be excellent.

 

 

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14 hours ago, Luka said:

 

He put pressure on the QB, something we are also struggling with.

 

 

Phillips didn't have all that many pressures last year. He was lucky enough to turn a large number of his pressures to sacks. But he wasn't the answer.

 

Losing Star was big, bigger than most wanted to admit. Hopefully the D can adjust using scheme and tactics. And by getting healthy, which is certainly a major part of the problem.

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19 hours ago, Mat68 said:

I dont think a space eater in the problem.  They played the #1 running team by a wide margin.  Milano and Edmunds are not where they need to be in run fits.  Its also the second game they saw another team.  Give it some time.  I think they are going to be a very good compliment to the offense.  

 

Who is the number 1 running team? 

39 minutes ago, NewEra said:

No, I don’t think losing Jordan Phillips and replacing him with Quinten Jefferson has hurt our D.  


No, I don’t think star opting out and replacing him with Vernon butler has hurt our D.

 

no, I don’t think losing Shaq Lawson and replacing him with Mario addison has hurt our D.  
 

I think that the makeshift offseason, having no fans, tremaine sucking, Tre’Davious not playing like he did last year and not playing the terrible offenses we played last year has more to do with it than the additions/subtractions.  

 

The Jets are the worst offense in the league. The Dolphins aren't very good either.

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1 minute ago, NewEra said:

I stated my points prior.  You disagree.  Cool. What would you like me to do? Restate the points I’ve already made?

 

It's not a disagreement. The Jets are the worst offense in the league. That's a fact. The Dolphins are bottom 10. So the statement of playing good offenses is bogus. The Rams are good obviously.

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1 hour ago, cle23 said:

 

It's not a disagreement. The Jets are the worst offense in the league. That's a fact. The Dolphins are bottom 10. So the statement of playing good offenses is bogus. The Rams are good obviously.

Are you serious?  Where did I say we played against good offenses.  You are 💯 putting words in my mouth.  
 

In my post i stayed several reasons why our defense is struggling.  ONE of the things I said was that we aren’t playing the terrible offenses of last season.  I think the disconnect here is that you must think that offenses are either terrible or good.   You’re insinuating that I said the dolphins are a good offense when in actuality, I was insinuating that the dolphins don’t have a terrible offense.....especially when their QB is on his game.

 

This year, we played one terrible offense.  the Jets.

 

Miami, while they aren’t great, aren’t terrible.....unless you say they are of course. They were good enough to beat the best defense in football last season with a bye on the line.  If Fitz is on his game, the offense he runs is FAR from terrible.  He played great vs us.  The Miami offense is not terrible imo.  They have a streaky QB.  When he’s hot, he’s hot.  When he’s not, he’s not. He was hot vs us. 


The rams have a great offense. 

 

Last year, we played duck Hodges, Brandon allen, Dwayne Haskins, Eli Manning, Marcus mariota and the Jets x2.  the other QBs we played, Dalton, Baker, wentz, dak, Lamar, Brady x2.  We played vs 2 good QBs.  4 if you want to include Brady as being good last season. 
 

The offenses that we played last year, as a whole are MUCH worse than the offenses we’ve played this year. Almost every offense we faced was bad


that was a monumental waste of my time.  Don’t expect another reply.

 

 

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2 hours ago, cle23 said:

 

It's not a disagreement. The Jets are the worst offense in the league. That's a fact. The Dolphins are bottom 10. So the statement of playing good offenses is bogus. The Rams are good obviously.

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On 9/27/2020 at 9:05 PM, atlbillsfan1975 said:

Phillips was terrible against the run. 
Not saying the Bills don’t need to do something, but Phillips didn’t fix the problem last year. 

 

Funny that we are way worse without them, couldn't have been that bad, can add Corey Liuget to that list as well.

 

They really need to address this next offseason and some Olineman that can actually play, dont know why they signed Dawkins long term as he is just a guy and the rest of them are ok with Ford being terrible.

 

 

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I'll take the contrarian position on this.  It's nothing against Damon Harrison.  The position of the players is that the roles of the defensive linemen are more complex than we, the fans realize (my words, not Harrison Phillips - the interview I heard),  The Bills have brought in a bunch of new linemen (Mario Addison, Quinton Jefferson, Vernon Butler, and AJ Epenesa).  Without the benefit of OTAs, and mini-camp, and with the training camp being abbreviated and lacking the benefit of preseason games, players are not as familiar and comfortable with their assignments and coordinating with other players as they might have been going into the season under more normal circumstances.  The struggles of the line are less related to talent than they are being sharp with assignments.  Signing another new player who has to learn the system will likely not help.

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2 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Funny that we are way worse without them, couldn't have been that bad, can add Corey Liuget to that list as well.

 

They really need to address this next offseason and some Olineman that can actually play, dont know why they signed Dawkins long term as he is just a guy and the rest of them are ok with Ford being terrible.

 

 

Bills gave up 105 yds/gm rushing last season, 123 per game for the last 3 of the season.

  Through 3 games this season 106 per game. How is that way worse? 

  The line has a lot of new parts with not much prep time together and both starting lbs have been fighting injuries.

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2 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Funny that we are way worse without them, couldn't have been that bad, can add Corey Liuget to that list as well.

 

They really need to address this next offseason and some Olineman that can actually play, dont know why they signed Dawkins long term as he is just a guy and the rest of them are ok with Ford being terrible.

 

 

 

We've drafter 4 D-Lineman in the past 3 years and Ford is far from terrible.

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1 hour ago, TigerJ said:

I'll take the contrarian position on this.  It's nothing against Damon Harrison.  The position of the players is that the roles of the defensive linemen are more complex than we, the fans realize (my words, not Harrison Phillips - the interview I heard),  The Bills have brought in a bunch of new linemen (Mario Addison, Quinton Jefferson, Vernon Butler, and AJ Epenesa).  Without the benefit of OTAs, and mini-camp, and with the training camp being abbreviated and lacking the benefit of preseason games, players are not as familiar and comfortable with their assignments and coordinating with other players as they might have been going into the season under more normal circumstances.  The struggles of the line are less related to talent than they are being sharp with assignments.  Signing another new player who has to learn the system will likely not help.

 

 

Every defensive tackle has a plan.........until they shift their weight slightly the wrong way.

 

In that case the current Harrison Phillips gets dominated. 

 

A better DT would not.

 

This isn't an old style 3 man, two gap front.   1T and the 3T both have the opportunity to make tackles and get in the backfield. 

 

Unless Vernon Butler steps up they probably won't have the horse at 1T this season to be stout.  They bet a lot on him........ because Phillips was coming back from injury and Star Lotulelei has been mostly a traffic cone at 1T since they gave him that $50M deal.

 

 

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The Seattle Seahawks are planning to add a veteran presence to their defensive line.

 

The team intends to sign defensive tackle Damon 'Snacks' Harrison to their practice squad, NFL Network's Mike Garafolo reports, per source. However, with the process for adding free agents currently in flux the timeframe for this move is unclear at this point, according to Garafolo.

 

https://www.nfl.com/news/wednesday-s-nfl-injury-and-roster-news-for-week-5

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38 minutes ago, ALF said:

The Seattle Seahawks are planning to add a veteran presence to their defensive line.

 

The team intends to sign defensive tackle Damon 'Snacks' Harrison to their practice squad, NFL Network's Mike Garafolo reports, per source. However, with the process for adding free agents currently in flux the timeframe for this move is unclear at this point, according to Garafolo.

 

https://www.nfl.com/news/wednesday-s-nfl-injury-and-roster-news-for-week-5

 

See my post on page one 10th one down ;)

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Word is the Bucs tried to snag him off the Seahawks PS but he said he wanted to stay in Seattle.

 

I propose: offer him our cap and a starting spot and have Zimmer or Butler back him up.  Allow Jefferson to play the 3tech, because he can’t play the 1tech effectively.  I think that’s a fact at this point.  Allow Jefferson and Oliver to move out to DE in situations where we are getting gashed by the run.  
 

that being said, I’m sure it’s a waste of time at this point because he seems happy in Seattle.  
 

but we need a big body along the DL, that we know.    How do we get this done

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On 9/28/2020 at 12:03 PM, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Phillips didn't have all that many pressures last year. He was lucky enough to turn a large number of his pressures to sacks. But he wasn't the answer.

 

Losing Star was big, bigger than most wanted to admit. Hopefully the D can adjust using scheme and tactics. And by getting healthy, which is certainly a major part of the problem.

Huge difference between sacks and pressures. Also, he had 9.5 sacks, 13 TFLs, and 16 QB hits. That is called making plays, something the Bills d-linemen aren't doing this year. 

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46 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

 

Well force them to elevate him, it literally costs you nothing to try and get him. 

I’m not even sure if that’s the case.  I think the Bills can sign him and there’s nothing Seattle can do about it.  The problem here seems to be that Snacks doesn’t want to leave and refuses to sign with other teams, allowing Seattle to keep him on the PS.

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8 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I’m not even sure if that’s the case.  I think the Bills can sign him and there’s nothing Seattle can do about it.  The problem here seems to be that Snacks doesn’t want to leave and refuses to sign with other teams, allowing Seattle to keep him on the PS.

 

Maybe offer him a bit more money? Got to kick the tires.

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17 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

 

Maybe offer him a bit more money? Got to kick the tires.

 

I would sure, but I’m not quite sure Beane and McD want him.  They could’ve had him for next to nothing a few weeks ago. Hopefully now that our lack of size up front has become a more pressing issue, they’ll make something happen.

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