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Must lose. Don't want any of those pesky NFC wins to bite us in the behind at the end of the year.

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1 hour ago, AirAllenPower said:

Akers - torn rib cartilage 

Brown- broken finger ( surgery but will play)

 

 

Why wont it be an easy game? 

 

Our offense is unstoppable 

We could just as easily run them out of the building if we stop the fumbles 

 

I'm expecting us to jump on them quickly 

 

Their oline is banged up

Their RBS are banged up

 

We have ***** Josh Allen!!!

 

Buffalo 44

Rams 20

I like your enthusiasm, however you'll have to count me amongst those who absolutely do not think this will be an easy game. Not by a long shot.  I think it's a little premature to call our offense unstoppable just yet.  Don't get me wrong, I think Allen is ballin out of control, and Diggs Brown and Beasley are an excellent starting 3.  We have yet to get our running game flowing, and we still don't know where we are as far as our TE situation goes, especially with Knox fumbling and dropping another pass before going out w/injury.

 

We ARE 2-0, but we beat two teams we were SUPPOSED to beat.  In the Jets game we left ALOT of points on the table and let them hang around til the 4th quarter due to turnovers and sloppy play.  In the Dolphins game they were beating US and we had to comeback to get the W.

 

We got lots of work to do.  But I do believe we have the potential to be unstoppable, and if Josh keeps improving like he has, man oh man, I can vision a future where he's not just in the conversation about MVP,  but is the favorite!

 

This Rams game is gonna be a more accurate gage on where we are as a team, IMHO.  

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10 minutes ago, stuvian said:

how do we factor for home field advantage?

 

What home field advantage? Teams have to get on a plane and travel but as far as game day goes their is no "home" or "road" games this year. Basically every team is playing 16 games on a neutral site field with empty stadiums or extremely small crowds.

 

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11 minutes ago, smuvtalker said:

I like your enthusiasm, however you'll have to count me amongst those who absolutely do not think this will be an easy game. Not by a long shot.  I think it's a little premature to call our offense unstoppable just yet.  Don't get me wrong, I think Allen is ballin out of control, and Diggs Brown and Beasley are an excellent starting 3.  We have yet to get our running game flowing, and we still don't know where we are as far as our TE situation goes, especially with Knox fumbling and dropping another pass before going out w/injury.

 

We ARE 2-0, but we beat two teams we were SUPPOSED to beat.  In the Jets game we left ALOT of points on the table and let them hang around til the 4th quarter due to turnovers and sloppy play.  In the Dolphins game they were beating US and we had to comeback to get the W.

 

We got lots of work to do.  But I do believe we have the potential to be unstoppable, and if Josh keeps improving like he has, man oh man, I can vision a future where he's not just in the conversation about MVP,  but is the favorite!

 

This Rams game is gonna be a more accurate gage on where we are as a team, IMHO.  

Gabriel Davis has de facto replaced knox...  

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If I were the Rams I would seriously consider simply running at the Bills and hitting the short stuff to drag this game out and keep Allen and this offense cooling its heels on the sideline.

 

Allen is on fire and we have a ton of offensive weapons so the best defense is long drives that keep him off the field.

 

I do not envision a wide open game, but we will see.

 

 

 

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23 hours ago, Penfield45 said:

We beat 1 playoff team last season in the Titans, and that didn't even count bc they had Mariota

 

if we wanna win the division we have to win these games. NE went into seattle and was a few yards away from beating them with Cam throwing almost 400 yards to no names. Patriots are a very good team this season 

Cam throwing 400yds against no names and has beens, sounds more accurate.

Edelman has a few rings I believe.

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21 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Its gonna be Wilson for sure.  He did it on Primetime with everyone watching.  Outside of Bills and Dolphin fans, how many people were actually watching him play Sunday.  But its still great he's getting attention.

 

And honestly, Wilson probably deserves it more given the quality of opponent was so much higher than the Dolphins.  Not to take anything away from Allen, and I still voted for Allen, but Wilson had a phenomenal day himself against the GOAT defensive mind in history and one the best DB's in the game.  

They left off the pic-6 Wilson threw.

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6 minutes ago, K-9 said:

The lack of respect informed by lack of familiarity is not surprising. 

 

I didnt see a lot of lack of respect.  I mean if you are not a Bills fan and look at how we beat up on 2 weak teams, I wouldn't automatically pencil us in for the SB either.  Most of them were pretty complimentary and predicted close scores.  

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20 hours ago, H2o said:

If we have no Edmunds and no Milano this game then I don't see it ending well for us. We NEED our young, athletic LB's out there. I am hoping that McDermott held them out this last game more as precautionary by giving them the ability to rest up for a week prior to the Rams game. The matchup of Aaron Donald vs Spain also makes me extremely nervous. The key for us in this game will be whether or not we can get interior pressure on Goff. If Ed O, Harry, Butler, and Jefferson can push the pocket or disrupt from the middle then Goff will not be that effective. The pressure from the middle will force him to move right into our defensive ends crashing from the outside. Goff is also the type who starts seeing ghosts once he takes a few hits so we need to get to him early and often. The problem with that is they have only given up 2 sacks in 2 games. Hopefully Frazier and McD can find a way to create pressure with just our front 4 because they have a lot of weapons at the skill positions which will need to be accounted for. I believe our offense can put up points with them, I just hope it doesn't come to that. I would much rather see the defense get back to form and our offense maintain what they've been doing, as well as find a way to get the running game going. 

I think a lot of people are looking at it wrong.  If we don't have Edmonds and Milano then the Rams have a chance.  This isn't 2018.

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10 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

I didnt see a lot of lack of respect.  I mean if you are not a Bills fan and look at how we beat up on 2 weak teams, I wouldn't automatically pencil us in for the SB either.  Most of them were pretty complimentary and predicted close scores.  

Yeah most of them are giving the Bills credit but of course they're picking their team they aren't a garbage fire right now like the Jets.

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5 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said:

I think a lot of people are looking at it wrong.  If we don't have Edmonds and Milano then the Rams have a chance.  This isn't 2018.

No, it's not 2018. This is however a team a little over a year removed from being in the SB that we are facing. It will be the best defense we have faced thus far and the best offense from top to bottom. They also have the arguably the best player in the NFL on their DL who will be lining up across from Spain and one of the 5 best CB's in the league. Don't sleep on Micah Kiser either, their starting ILB. I have confidence that our team can put up points this year and hang in a shootout, but I'm also not overconfident to think that we have arrived just yet. Higbee, Kupp, Woods, Jefferson, and whatever RB they throw out there are the best we will have faced thus far. It could make for a really long day on defense without our two starting LB's who fly all over the field making plays.  

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I have this weird feeling like the eagles game last year, confident we would take them at home and bam wake up call. Just the unfamiliarity with them.

 

We absolutely need to rattle Goff and throw his timing off. He has some nice weapons and you can bet they are going after Levi. He is going to need to step up this game. I’m more worried about D at this point this week then what our offense will deliver. 

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22 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

I didnt see a lot of lack of respect.  I mean if you are not a Bills fan and look at how we beat up on 2 weak teams, I wouldn't automatically pencil us in for the SB either.  Most of them were pretty complimentary and predicted close scores.  

I didn’t read the entire thread over there so I’ll take your word for it, but the few I did read showed a lack of knowledge of our team and a lack of respect. Things like Ramsey will just take out Diggs so our pass game will be stopped, for example. I don’t expect anyone to pencil us in for the SB, either, btw, in order to illustrate respect. 

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1 hour ago, AirAllenPower said:

Gabriel Davis has de facto replaced knox...  

I think Davis is gonna be just fine as our #4 WR don't you?  I'm not givin up on Knox yet, I just hope he can get past this concussion and back onto the field pronto.  Last game was a lil rough for him....but it's wayyy early and plenty of time for him to be the guy for us at TE....

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3 minutes ago, smuvtalker said:

I think Davis is gonna be just fine as our #4 WR don't you?  I'm not givin up on Knox yet, I just hope he can get past this concussion and back onto the field pronto.  Last game was a lil rough for him....but it's wayyy early and plenty of time for him to be the guy for us at TE....

Knox honestly had a great play against the Dolphins if he didn't lose the football at the end.

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1 hour ago, MAJBobby said:

Here is what the Ram Fans are saying...

 

http://www.laramsfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=35259&sid=2e86e0eef4203ede3dc6d1478ab3470c

 

Pretty superficial assessment. 

16 minutes ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said:

I have this weird feeling like the eagles game last year, confident we would take them at home and bam wake up call. Just the unfamiliarity with them.

 

We absolutely need to rattle Goff and throw his timing off. He has some nice weapons and you can bet they are going after Levi. He is going to need to step up this game. I’m more worried about D at this point this week then what our offense will deliver. 

 

Oh no question we can easily lose to the Rams. But they will have their hands full with us too.

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22 minutes ago, H2o said:

No, it's not 2018. This is however a team a little over a year removed from being in the SB that we are facing. It will be the best defense we have faced thus far and the best offense from top to bottom. They also have the arguably the best player in the NFL on their DL who will be lining up across from Spain and one of the 5 best CB's in the league. Don't sleep on Micah Kiser either, their starting ILB. I have confidence that our team can put up points this year and hang in a shootout, but I'm also not overconfident to think that we have arrived just yet. Higbee, Kupp, Woods, Jefferson, and whatever RB they throw out there are the best we will have faced thus far. It could make for a really long day on defense without our two starting LB's who fly all over the field making plays.  

 

As far as being 2018 NFC Champions....as someone on the SB-winning Steelers said "take those rings off and put 'em in the locker, boys, they won't help us this year".  The 2018 NFC Champions failed to become the Superbowl champions because they had a meh D going in (20th) and Belicheck brought their high-flying #2 offense down to earth.

Last year the Rams had the meh #17 ranked defense to accompany their meh 9-7 record and just-below top-10 offense (#11).  They had Donald last year.  They acquired Ramsey week 7 and were 5-4 afterwards. 

 

Questiion: What do you feel has changed for them this season to make them more like 2018 than 2019?

 

You're right "best defense we've faced so far" and we better not take them lightly ...... but that may be a relatively mediocre bar.

 

I do hope we get Milano and Edmunds back but better not to rush them.

 

7 minutes ago, stevewin said:

Not sure if it's been discussed

 

Robert Woods is #$#%##$ crazy

 

What makes you say that? 

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28 minutes ago, H2o said:

No, it's not 2018. This is however a team a little over a year removed from being in the SB that we are facing. It will be the best defense we have faced thus far and the best offense from top to bottom. They also have the arguably the best player in the NFL on their DL who will be lining up across from Spain and one of the 5 best CB's in the league. Don't sleep on Micah Kiser either, their starting ILB. I have confidence that our team can put up points this year and hang in a shootout, but I'm also not overconfident to think that we have arrived just yet. Higbee, Kupp, Woods, Jefferson, and whatever RB they throw out there are the best we will have faced thus far. It could make for a really long day on defense without our two starting LB's who fly all over the field making plays.  

If we had Milano and Edmonds back then the Rams would be facing top 5 on both sides of the ball.  As I said.  The Rams have a chance to beat us without them.  With them, their are not many teams that have a high chance to beat us.

 

Legit top 5 D I would add as another poster pointed out we are top 5 on D right now.

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34 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I'm old, and I've been on TBD a long time.  Why do you say that?

When Woods was here someone started a thread, apropos of nothing, titled "Robert Woods is $#%#$% crazy" - it got a lot of play at the time - and there are some of us on here that still bring it up

 

Now that all the fun has been sucked from that - feel free to proceed with thread 😛 

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4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

As far as being 2018 NFC Champions....as someone on the SB-winning Steelers said "take those rings off and put 'em in the locker, boys, they won't help us this year".  The 2018 NFC Champions failed to become the Superbowl champions because they had a meh D going in (20th) and Belicheck brought their high-flying #2 offense down to earth.

Last year the Rams had the meh #17 ranked defense to accompany their meh 9-7 record and just-below top-10 offense (#11).  They had Donald last year.  They acquired Ramsey week 7 and were 5-4 afterwards. 

 

Questiion: What do you feel has changed for them this season to make them more like 2018 than 2019?

 

You're right "best defense we've faced so far" and we better not take them lightly ...... but that may be a relatively mediocre bar.

 

I do hope we get Milano and Edmunds back but better not to rush them.

The switch to Brandon Staley, who learned under Fangio in Denver and Chicago, seems to have injected some life into that defense. In their first two games they have held the opposing teams under 20 points. It's the same scheme Denver was running for the Peyton Manning years. The fact that they are keeping Goff clean on drop backs is also helping the offense as he is off to a hot start. This is why I said in my original post that getting pressure on Goff, especially from the interior, is the key to the game. He starts seeing ghosts if you bang him around in the pocket. McVay is one of the most intelligent coaches in the NFL though and he will surely attack our weak LB group if we are without Edmunds/Milano once again. Higbee is every bit as talented a Gesicki, who just ate us alive last week. Gerald Everett has been known to turn in the occasional as well. The prospects of Levi Wallace trying to hang with either Kupp or Woods also doesn't seem that ideal. The Rams tend to play with more pace than either the Jets or the Dolphins so I worry about our guys getting gassed again, only this time facing a more talented overall group. I'm not saying we are going to get blown out because I believe our offense can score points this year, but I am not at the point where I am overly confident thinking that we are just going to handle everyone on the schedule. We have a much tougher road in 2020 and this is the first big test. With a healthy Edmunds and Milano I do believe we win by 10. Without them I believe in the best case scenario it will be a nail biter that hopefully Josh can go Captain Clutch again to pull off for us somehow. 

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24 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

They also mentioned how we struggle to beat good teams

 

I have a question:  what teams don’t struggle to beat good teams?  I mean, if you don’t struggle to beat good teams you should be 16-0, right?

 

The point being, as long as the Bills are putting themselves in a position to win against every opponent the “struggle to beat good teams” thing sounds pretty silly.

 

The next step is to get over the hump against “good teams” more often than not.

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1 minute ago, ScottLaw said:

Their record against winning teams since McD arrived is atrocious.

 

Agreed that is the next step. Hopefully starts this Sunday. 👍🏻

 

2017 and 2018 don’t mean a hill of beans at this point.  Last season the Bills gave themselves a chance in every game except one (Philly).  Yes, I’m hoping they finish the job more frequently starting this week.

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Didn’t want to start a new thread so I was thinking about Shaq and Phillips after seeing Shaq do nothing against us last game. 
 

Combined they have five tackles and one sack. I hope those who were arguing to keep them finally recognize that Beane has got this. 😃 

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1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

I didnt see a lot of lack of respect.  I mean if you are not a Bills fan and look at how we beat up on 2 weak teams, I wouldn't automatically pencil us in for the SB either.  Most of them were pretty complimentary and predicted close scores.  

 

My take too, and there were some passibly knowledgeable posts with insight about the Bills players and strengths scattered between the less informed nonsense.

 

There was an expected  amount of homerism, but no reason for them to think their team can't get a win.

 

I have visited worse boards.. Going to be a tough game. 

 

 

 

 

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I am looking forward Sunday. No matter how tough it is to play division games, both games so far were 'must' wins for us, and we only had to lose something. 

 

Next four games are completely different story, against teams which have currently 8-0 combined record, and are all really tough.

 

I love it though. We are relevant and need to prove it. If we start with Rams this week we'll get a lot of respect.

 

As for the game, I read what smarter people than me posted in this thread and I do think this game has 27-24 score written all over it. I hope that it is Bass who scores those two FGs :)

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