Week 3: Rams at Bills

[ColoradoBills]

Just now, Penfield45 said:

We beat 1 playoff team last season in the Titans, and that didn't even count bc they had Mariota

 

if we wanna win the division we have to win these games. NE went into seattle and was a few yards away from beating them with Cam throwing almost 400 yards to no names. Patriots are a very good team this season 

 

I'll bet McDermott has not even thought of this!

[Alphadawg7]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

Norman is not eligible to play until week 4

Ah thanks, wasn’t sure if he was on IR or not

[Alphadawg7]

3 hours ago, SCBills said:

We don’t need them healthy “to stand a chance”.  At least, I hope not... 
 

The Rams D has a couple studs and a bunch of fluff. We should be able to score on them.  ....and if our offense is truly legit, we should be able to score on anyone.  
 

On defense, even without Edmunds/Milano, I trust McDermott, Frazier and the Defense to redeem themselves.    I’m sure they are not happy, at all, about how that side of the ball played yesterday.  

 

Yeah, one thing to remember, while Rams have the best defensive player in football, and one of the best DB's in football...the rest of the D is not exactly scary.  I live in LA, Rams are my second team, and they have several areas that can be exploited.  

 

Honestly, Bills offense is a matchup nightmare for the Rams.  Allens ability to move and escape the pocket already neutralizes the Rams best defensive player.  Not saying Donald wont still be a force or a disruptor, but Allen's escapability helps reduce his impact.  Yes, Jalen Ramsey is likely going to be on Diggs, but end of the day, Diggs may be the best route runner in football and will still get his on Jalen.  But with Jalen likely shadowing Diggs, guys like Brown and Cole are going to have a lot of opportunities because the other DB's for the Rams are going to struggle hanging with those 2 as they are also great route running WRs both twitchy and fast too.  

 

Rams run defense isn't great either, so I think Allen, Moss, and Singletary will have strong outings too.  

 

For me, its going to come down to whether or not we can slow the Rams passing attack down.  And that will be a 2 fold question...will we get to Goff enough and will we have at least one, if not both, of Milano and Edmunds back.  Rams have talent at TE and a very smart offensive coach who is going to watch the Miami game and see gold at attacking the middle of the field and using the talented TE's they have to move the chains.  

 

Plus, they have Henderson involved in the offense now, and he's an explosive fast 2nd year RB who can be a real weapon out of the back field too in the passing game.  We are going to really need to get Edmunds and Milano back out there if possible.  

[YoloinOhio]

30 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Ah thanks, wasn’t sure if he was on IR or not

He and Feliciano are currently the two on IR, I believe 

[Cantankeous]

3 hours ago, nucci said:

such an overrated issue. These guys are young and in shape and fly chartered planes. Why would they be tired and not ready to play?

Why? I don’t know. But history, Vegas and facts say so. You’re correct that it shouldn’t be an issue.

it just is.

[Rocky Landing]

I believe we are going to need a more balanced attack against the Rams. I fear that if Allen is passing on over 65% of our plays, Aaron Donald will end the day with multiple sacks.

 

Considering the limited use he had, I thought Motor looked pretty good yesterday. Moss, maybe not so much, although he does look good as either a check down option, or short-yardage receiver. I don't mind Allen's designed run plays, and I could see them using more of them v. the Rams. But, Allen's rushing notwithstanding, our run game is a concern v. the Rams.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

15 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Never forget 

 

 

 

You gotta add this fine Jalen Ramsey opinion to it: Sam Darnold is just like Carson Wentz or Dak Prescott.

https://draftwire.usatoday.com/2018/08/15/sam-darnold-josh-norman-carson-wentz-dak-prescott/

[Putin]

11 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

I don't think people understand what a mess the Eagles are currently.  

 

Dallas had the ball for 24 minutes and had over 400 yards of O vs the Rams.  Philly over 360 after a slow start.  Their D is Donald and Ramsey.  

 

Expecting a shootout and the game of the week.  Bills 34 Rams 31

Feels good to be able to say Bills - 34 doesn’t it ? Our OL will have to step up a notch A Donald is no joke 

[billsfan89]

This game might be a bit of a shootout. IF Edumonds and Milano can get back on the field I think the Bills should be able to take it as with a healthy LB core I think they can slow down the Rams offense just enough. But if one or both are out then it could get ugly over the middle again and it becomes a 60/40 game where I can see the Rams taking it. This is a solid game to see exactly how good this team is. Decent defense, very good offense solid ST unit. Good test for Josh as the Rams defense will be the best he has faced so far in 2020 and the defense will be facing a potent offense. Overall it seems like a good temperature check for this team.

[Chandler#81]

2 hours ago, dubs said:

In some ways, the season starts this week.  Glad the Bills were able to start with a couple less imposing games, although all the credit with how they played.  This will be a big test.

 

 

In NO way is this accurate. We’ve won our 1st 2 Division games in a sport where winning the Division is paramount to playing home games in January with a chance at a title. How many Division titles have we had this century?

 

If anything, the Rams game is one we can lose and still be contending for a division championship.

[Victory Formation]

I’m interested to see how the whole Jalen Ramsey vs Josh Allen thing plays out.. Ramsey talked a lot of crap about Allen over the years so this one is personal.. Instead of running away from Ramsey, I’d love to see a whole litany of gimmicky plays to get Stefon Diggs the ball on Sunday.. Ramsey may be the best CB in football but Stefon Diggs is having an All-Pro year...

[whatdrought]

3 minutes ago, Victory Formation said:

I’m interested to see how the whole Jalen Ramsey vs Josh Allen thing plays out.. Ramsey talked a lot of crap about Allen over the years so this one is personal.. Instead of running away from Ramsey, I’d love to see a whole litany of gimmicky plays to get Stefon Diggs the ball on Sunday.. Ramsey may be the best CB in football but Stefon Diggs is having an All-Pro year...

 

 1 v 1doesn't win anything in the NFL. It's 11 v 11. If Diggs is open throw his way, if not, get someone else cause someone else will be open. Vendettas lose games. 

[stuvian]

Clay Matthews has great hair

[Warcodered]

 

[eball]

10 minutes ago, Victory Formation said:

I’m interested to see how the whole Jalen Ramsey vs Josh Allen thing plays out.. Ramsey talked a lot of crap about Allen over the years so this one is personal.. Instead of running away from Ramsey, I’d love to see a whole litany of gimmicky plays to get Stefon Diggs the ball on Sunday.. Ramsey may be the best CB in football but Stefon Diggs is having an All-Pro year...

 

What you are saying goes completely against everything McD's Buffalo Bills are about.  Everything.  I guarantee you the thought of trying to "show up" Jalen Ramsey is not part of the discussion in preparation for Sunday's game.

[MJS]

6 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

 

 1 v 1doesn't win anything in the NFL. It's 11 v 11. If Diggs is open throw his way, if not, get someone else cause someone else will be open. Vendettas lose games. 

Allen has shown he can spread the ball around. 8 different receivers in both games so far.

[eball]

19 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

In NO way is this accurate. We’ve won our 1st 2 Division games in a sport where winning the Division is paramount to playing home games in January with a chance at a title. How many Division titles have we had this century?

 

If anything, the Rams game is one we can lose and still be contending for a division championship.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Bills' postseason chances improve with a loss to an NFC team.  It's all about the tiebreakers.

[K-9]

8 minutes ago, MJS said:

Allen has shown he can spread the ball around. 8 different receivers in both games so far.

A testament to how well he’s reading defenses, getting in and out of plays, and finding the open man. Josh has officially arrived. 
 

That said, there’s gonna be clunkers along the way and the true mark of a great team is being able to win a game when it’s just not your day. There were several of those back in our SB years. 

[Warcodered]

 

[AirAllenPower]

What will this board do if Allen throws for 500 yards in this game??!!!

[Alphadawg7]

22 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

 

 

Its gonna be Wilson for sure.  He did it on Primetime with everyone watching.  Outside of Bills and Dolphin fans, how many people were actually watching him play Sunday.  But its still great he's getting attention.

 

And honestly, Wilson probably deserves it more given the quality of opponent was so much higher than the Dolphins.  Not to take anything away from Allen, and I still voted for Allen, but Wilson had a phenomenal day himself against the GOAT defensive mind in history and one the best DB's in the game.  

Edited September 21, 2020 by Alphadawg7

[ColoradoBills]

31 minutes ago, MJS said:

Allen has shown he can spread the ball around. 8 different receivers in both games so far.

 

If I was a betting man still I would put some money on Cole Beasley being a big part of next weeks game plan.

For those who know more than I, who is the Rams nickel corner and how does that match up look?

 

Mainly asking because I know Robey-Coleman is gone.

Edited September 21, 2020 by ColoradoBills

[Alphadawg7]

19 minutes ago, AirAllenPower said:

What will this board do if Allen throws for 500 yards in this game??!!!

 

You know there will be some that will still complain about some pass he didn't complete still

 

8 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

If I was a betting man still I would put some money on Cole Beasley being a big part of next weeks game plan.

For those who know more than I, who is the Rams nickel corner and how does that match up look?

 

I expect both Brown, and Cole to be used a lot next week as Diggs is likely going to draw Jalen Ramsey most the day.  That being said, Allen is a huge competitor and will into be afraid of Ramsey and Diggs is probably the best route runner in the league, so do think Diggs still gets his.  Rams secondary is not that strong behind Ramsey IMO.  

 

I think Gabe Davis may be used more and could be a sneaky strong game for him, especially after the confidence the team is going to have in him after that insane catch.  My prediction is Gabe gets 4-5 receptions and another TD against the Rams.

Edited September 21, 2020 by Alphadawg7

[Victory Formation]

47 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

 

 1 v 1doesn't win anything in the NFL. It's 11 v 11. If Diggs is open throw his way, if not, get someone else cause someone else will be open. Vendettas lose games. 

 

39 minutes ago, eball said:

 

What you are saying goes completely against everything McD's Buffalo Bills are about.  Everything.  I guarantee you the thought of trying to "show up" Jalen Ramsey is not part of the discussion in preparation for Sunday's game.

Disagree.. Diggs is your star receiver.. we didn’t bring him here to be a decoy.. start humiliating Ramsey and that entire D will fall apart..

[eball]

1 minute ago, Victory Formation said:

 

Disagree.. Diggs is your star receiver.. we didn’t bring him here to be a decoy.. start humiliating Ramsey and that entire D will fall apart..

 

I really don't think you understand how this works.  Who said to use Diggs as a decoy?

[Logic]

I predict a loss this Sunday.

The Bills are good, and I believe they will make the playoffs, but this is not a good matchup.

Cooper Kupp and Tyler Higbee are gonna have monster games if Edmunds and Milano aren't back. Aditionally, the Rams have a killer play-action game, which further highlights the linebacker/middle of the field deficiencies the Bills are currently experiencing.

If the stadium was packed with Bills fans, it might be a different story. On what is essentially a level playing field, though? I expect a high scoring shootout and a loss for the Bills. Something like 34-27 Rams.

It's fine. If you're going to lose, it's always best to lose to NFC opponents. The swing of tough AFC opponents coming up after the Rams game is much more important. Hopefully Milano and Edmunds are back for that.

[SCBills]

17 minutes ago, Logic said:

I predict a loss this Sunday.

The Bills are good, and I believe they will make the playoffs, but this is not a good matchup.

Cooper Kupp and Tyler Higbee are gonna have monster games if Edmunds and Milano aren't back. Aditionally, the Rams have a killer play-action game, which further highlights the linebacker/middle of the field deficiencies the Bills are currently experiencing.

If the stadium was packed with Bills fans, it might be a different story. On what is essentially a level playing field, though? I expect a high scoring shootout and a loss for the Bills. Something like 34-27 Rams.

It's fine. If you're going to lose, it's always best to lose to NFC opponents. The swing of tough AFC opponents coming up after the Rams game is much more important. Hopefully Milano and Edmunds are back for that.

 

I think a lot of us are conditioned to predict this until the Bills prove us otherwise against, perceived, good teams.

[CEN-CAL17]

I think 35 is the magic number.....

 

obviously Bills needing your score more than and holding the Rams under....

 

If the Bills can limit the Rams under 30 points we have a great shot.

 

I just think the Rams can score a lot of points and to hold them under 30 is going to be tough regardless of who’s on the field.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

5 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

I think a lot of us are conditioned to predict this until the Bills prove us otherwise against, perceived, good teams.

 

Weak sauce it is. I'm picking the Bills to win by 10 this week. Outside of Ramsey and Donald, who's going to step up on the Rams' defense?

 

[Logic]

6 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

I think a lot of us are conditioned to predict this until the Bills prove us otherwise against, perceived, good teams.

Fair enough.

When predicting game outcomes, I look at specific matchups.

To me, Higbee/Kupp vs Bills defense without Edmunds/Milano (if they miss another game) is a scary matchup. Also, the way to beat the Rams is to limit the run and not be as susceptible to play-action. Their whole passing game seems to be built off of play-action and run game success. If Edmunds and Milano are out, I see the Bills struggling to stop the run and, thus, struggling to contain play-action. Furthermore, we just saw Mike Gesicki tear up our defense. Tyler Higbee is every bit as good as Gesicki. 

Put a different way: the Bills defense was mostly unable to stop the Dolphins offense. The Rams offense is superior. The Bills just beat the Dolphins by 3 points. The Rams are vastly superior to the Dolphins as a team.

I still see something like 10-12 wins for the Bills, I just don't think this will be one of them.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

3 minutes ago, Logic said:

Fair enough.

When predicting game outcomes, I look at specific matchups.

To me, Higbee/Kupp vs Bills defense without Edmunds/Milano (if they miss another game) is a scary matchup. Also, the way to beat the Rams is to limit the run and not be as susceptible to play-action. Their whole passing game seems to be built off of play-action and run game success. If Edmunds and Milano are out, I see the Bills struggling to stop the run and, thus, struggling to contain play-action. Furthermore, we just saw Mike Gesicki tear up our defense. Tyler Higbee is every bit as good as Gesicki. 

Put a different way: the Bills defense was mostly unable to stop the Dolphins offense. The Rams offense is superior. The Bills just beat the Dolphins by 3 points. The Rams are vastly superior to the Dolphins as a team.

I still see something like 10-12 wins for the Bills, I just don't think this will be one of them.

 

I'm not impressed with the Rams defense.

 

 

[billsrul120]

1 minute ago, Logic said:

Fair enough.

When predicting game outcomes, I look at specific matchups.

To me, Higbee/Kupp vs Bills defense without Edmunds/Milano (if they miss another game) is a scary matchup. Also, the way to beat the Rams is to limit the run and not be as susceptible to play-action. Their whole passing game seems to be built off of play-action and run game success. If Edmunds and Milano are out, I see the Bills struggling to stop the run and, thus, struggling to contain play-action. Furthermore, we just saw Mike Gesicki tear up our defense. Tyler Higbee is every bit as good as Gesicki. 

Put a different way: the Bills defense was mostly unable to stop the Dolphins offense. The Rams offense is superior. The Bills just beat the Dolphins by 3 points. The Rams are vastly superior to the Dolphins as a team.

I still see something like 10-12 wins for the Bills, I just don't think this will be one of them.

Generally I agree with you here but I will say it should be noted that the Dolphins were able to complete a lot of really close plays, several to Gesicki.  The success rate they had on plays with Bills players draped all over them or from an amazing catch is something that isn't likely to be a regular occurrence.  Gesicki made a couple of catches yesterday that he might make a couple times out of every ten and they just all hit.

[AirAllenPower]

Ppl still don't get it. It doesn't matter what the rams do... nobody can stop our offense 

 

Buffalo 41

Rams 20

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

 

 

 

 

[Like A Mofo]

19 hours ago, ChevyVanMiller said:

That’s a sign of respect. In the past a 2-0 Bills team would always be an underdog to another 2-0 squad.

 

If PFF was running the point spreads, the Rams would be -7.5

[H2o]

If we have no Edmunds and no Milano this game then I don't see it ending well for us. We NEED our young, athletic LB's out there. I am hoping that McDermott held them out this last game more as precautionary by giving them the ability to rest up for a week prior to the Rams game. The matchup of Aaron Donald vs Spain also makes me extremely nervous. The key for us in this game will be whether or not we can get interior pressure on Goff. If Ed O, Harry, Butler, and Jefferson can push the pocket or disrupt from the middle then Goff will not be that effective. The pressure from the middle will force him to move right into our defensive ends crashing from the outside. Goff is also the type who starts seeing ghosts once he takes a few hits so we need to get to him early and often. The problem with that is they have only given up 2 sacks in 2 games. Hopefully Frazier and McD can find a way to create pressure with just our front 4 because they have a lot of weapons at the skill positions which will need to be accounted for. I believe our offense can put up points with them, I just hope it doesn't come to that. I would much rather see the defense get back to form and our offense maintain what they've been doing, as well as find a way to get the running game going. 

Edited September 21, 2020 by H2o

[RiotAct]

I had this down as a win once the schedule was announced back in April..... and I still do.  

 

3-0 baby.

[Nihilarian]

16 hours ago, BillsFan130 said:

Don’t let Donald dominate. Easier said than done. But got to contain him somehow 

The Patriots triple teamed him at times in the 2019 SB. Donald had only one QB hit and one tackle in that game. The Rams only sacked Brady once too.

 

Allen probably won't have all day to choose his pass target in this game like he did against Miami...

 

The Bills are 16th in rushing attempts and 22nd in rushing yards so far. #5 in pass attempts, #1 in passing yards, #2 in passing TDs. Here is hoping the Bills get their run game working overtime against the Rams.

[Logic]

30 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

I'm not impressed with the Rams defense.

 

 

I'm not worried about the Bills scoring on the Rams. I'm worried about the Bills not being able to stop the Rams offense.

It will be a shootout, as I said.

30 minutes ago, AirAllenPower said:

Ppl still don't get it. It doesn't matter what the rams do... nobody can stop our offense 

 

Buffalo 41

Rams 20

I mean...I'm gonna pump the brakes a little bit here.

Our offense has looked pretty impressive, but it HAS been against two of the worst teams in the league. Even the Dolphins defense, which isn't very good, held the Bills to two consecutive three-and-outs in the third quarter yesterday.

Good? Yes. Unstoppable? I think it's too early to say on that one.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

I don't think they'll win because I've never seen them win this game. I'm excited though. It'll be fun.