YoloinOhio Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) Quote I don’t feel like he’s the right leader for this organization to reach the Promised Land,” Adams said. “As a leader, what really bothers me is that he doesn’t have a relationship with everybody in the building. “At the end of the day, he doesn’t address the team,” Adams added. “If there’s a problem in the locker room, he lets another coach address the team. If we’re playing sh---y and we’re losing, he doesn’t address the entire team as a group at halftime. He’ll walk out of the locker room and let another coach handle it.” Gase’s recent claim that his relationship with Adams “has been good since the time I’ve gotten here” and “there’s been a lot of dialogue between us” appears to be the latest in a series of exaggerations and/or prevarications. Adams told the News that he hasn’t spoken to Gase since his exit interview on the day after the end of the regular season (Dec. 30). Gase did not respond to a message for comment. https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-jamal-adams-trade-joe-douglas-contract-extension-20200724-vc6zwwpmjrepjii67hojt2t5ri-story.html Edited July 24, 2020 by YoloinOhio 2 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Well, what do the players expect?! I thought Gase was only a 'QB whisperer'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 You don’t need to have a relationship with everyone in the building. You don’t need to address problems with the team or speak to the team at half time. You need to have good players that can execute the plays based off a sound game plan on Game Days. Jets don’t have good players...their coaching staff doesn’t develop good game plans. Look at it this way... Change nothing about GASE, except make him a Game Planning/Playcalling genius. No one would say anything You can be aloof and weird if you are great. But when you are not a good coach AND you are aloof and weird...disaster. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 24, 2020 Author Share Posted July 24, 2020 They pretty much have to trade him now, right? 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 I see lots of people in the building every day! 2 17 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 I think Gase is a fantastic coach. I hope he coaches the Jets forever and ever. 18 18 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 No ***** Sherlock. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: They pretty much have to trade him now, right? Only thing for Adams left to do.... 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushypeaches Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Thank god we're finally off this cycle of hiring failed retread coaches just because that's all that will take the job (Jauron, Gailey, Rex) Who in their right mind hires Adam Gase coming off his stint in Miami? The red flags were all there, and if anything, they've gotten worse under the microscope in NY. Teams that fail to learn from the past, deserve all the misery that they get 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 I know that there are only 32 GM jobs but Joe Douglas must have been desperate for his first GM gig to leave the Iggles and sign on with the brothers Johnson and Adam Gase. Woof. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Big Turk Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 13 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: You don’t need to have a relationship with everyone in the building. You don’t need to address problems with the team or speak to the team at half time. You need to have good players that can execute the plays based off a sound game plan on Game Days. Jets don’t have good players...their coaching staff doesn’t develop good game plans. Look at it this way... Change nothing about GASE, except make him a Game Planning/Playcalling genius. No one would say anything You can be aloof and weird if you are great. But when you are not a good coach AND you are aloof and weird...disaster. Some coaches get the most out of their players like McDermott and some coaches don't. Gase appears to be in the latter group of coaches...which is why the Jets will never be a threat while he is their coach. If you think leadership doesn't matter you couldn't be more wrong. Great leaders inspire, poor ones demoralize. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 He’s trying so hard to get out of there. As long as he ends up in the NFC. The Washington, Lions, or Eagles all have at least $20,000,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) Johnson & Johnson are forced to sell the team due to public sentiment. New owner brings back Wrecks. 'Third time's the charm'. EDIT: Oops! Second! ? Edited July 24, 2020 by Ridgewaycynic2013 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 13 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: You don’t need to have a relationship with everyone in the building. You don’t need to address problems with the team or speak to the team at half time. You need to have good players that can execute the plays based off a sound game plan on Game Days. Jets don’t have good players...their coaching staff doesn’t develop good game plans. Look at it this way... Change nothing about GASE, except make him a Game Planning/Playcalling genius. No one would say anything You can be aloof and weird if you are great. But when you are not a good coach AND you are aloof and weird...disaster. I would argue that even though you are right- you don't need to have a relationship with everyone or address the team at halftime, a real leader WILL do those things when they are neccesary. Leaders don't just do things their way all the time. Sometimes you figure out what is needed by the people following you and do it because it needs to be done. Leading is the ultimate "team" activity, which means you do whatever is best for the team- regardless of whether you like it or not. It is the leaders' responsibility to get the most out of the players. Clearly Adams needs more out of his coach. Maybe Adams is being unreasonable, but maybe it is Gase and he's not flexible enough to effectively lead these men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: He’s trying so hard to get out of there. As long as he ends up in the NFC. The Washington, Lions, or Eagles all have at least $20,000,000. He is a bit of a drama queen but he is a really good player. I know the Jets would never trade him here but I wouldn't mind seeing him on the Bills. I don't think he would have that bad attitude playing for a real leader like McDermott. Winning cures all so he would be happy playing here. As a bonus he would absolutely want to stick it to the Jets every time. With all that said I hope he gets traded to the NFC as well. Edited July 24, 2020 by Greg S 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 28 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: You don’t need to have a relationship with everyone in the building. You don’t need to address problems with the team or speak to the team at half time. You need to have good players that can execute the plays based off a sound game plan on Game Days. Jets don’t have good players...their coaching staff doesn’t develop good game plans. Look at it this way... Change nothing about GASE, except make him a Game Planning/Playcalling genius. No one would say anything You can be aloof and weird if you are great. But when you are not a good coach AND you are aloof and weird...disaster. So what you’re saying is, if he was a good coach people wouldn’t make fun of him for being a bad coach?.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Good player but man, does this guy ever shut up? He has to be the whiniest crybaby in the league. The one thing not stressed enough about this Bills team is that since getting rid of guys like Incognito and, to a lesser extent, McCoy, they're pretty much all good dudes who are easy to cheer for. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Gase isn’t the right leader for any organization. Hiring him was just another sign that the Jest are as dysfunctional as ever. They’re a true reflection of their owner. Jamal Adams wants out and I do not blame him one bit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 37 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: You don’t need to have a relationship with everyone in the building. You don’t need to address problems with the team or speak to the team at half time. You need to have good players that can execute the plays based off a sound game plan on Game Days. Jets don’t have good players...their coaching staff doesn’t develop good game plans. Look at it this way... Change nothing about GASE, except make him a Game Planning/Playcalling genius. No one would say anything You can be aloof and weird if you are great. But when you are not a good coach AND you are aloof and weird...disaster. I don't agree. I don't think you can be aloof. You don't have to be the players' friend but you have to be present. Gase is aloof and a sulker. He puts himself above the team, always. He actually is a pretty good playcaller. But he does not have the make up to be a successful Head Coach. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 You don’t say? I think anyone with half a brain has known this for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Gase and Woody Johnson what a gift to the Bills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Adams trying to force his way out any way he can. You hate to see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRHater69 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) If it wasn't for being able to ride Peyton Manning's coattails in Denver would Gase even be a HC? It's clear Adams just wants out which would suck for them but be good for us in the long run. He's probably their best defensive player. Edited July 24, 2020 by GRHater69 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 I don’t think they have the right ownership neither. Lots of pride, egotism and arrogance in that organization. I think there’s a lot wisdom in acknowledging what you don’t know because you can ask yourself the right questions that’ll lead you to the correct answers and intellectual growth. Problem with Woody and Gase is that they think they know everything which is stagnant water in terms of growth. I don’t view the Jets as a threat until they’re under new ownership. Same situation with Snyder over in DC. Glad to have the Jets in our division. They’re wasting Darnold’s talent by all of the dysfunction in that franchise. Good for the Bills though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, Victory Formation said: I don’t think they have the right ownership neither. Lots of pride, egotism and arrogance in that organization. I think there’s a lot wisdom in acknowledging what you don’t know because you can ask yourself the right questions that’ll lead you to the correct answers and intellectual growth. Problem with Woody and Gase is that they think they know everything which is stagnant water in terms of growth. I don’t view the Jets as a threat until they’re under new ownership. Same situation with Snyder over in DC. Glad to have the Jets in our division. They’re wasting Darnold’s talent by all of the dysfunction in that franchise. Good for the Bills though. No do I. I do like Joe Douglas the GM though. If they get out of the way and let him work they will get better. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: No do I. I do like Joe Douglas the GM though. If they get out of the way and let him work they will get better. He has a 6 year contact with the Jets. I don't think he would have taken the job if he didn't get a long term commitment. He knows there is a lot of work to be done and this won't be fixed in a year of two. Just curious to see if he is allowed to fire Gase. Gase was hired by Johnson first and he also played a big part in convincing ownership to hire Douglas. Same the situation with the Bills in their hiring of McDermott then Beane. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romie Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 23 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Adams trying to force his way out any way he can. You hate to see it Absolutely breaks my heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Since I’m a big man and so rarely wrong, I am raising my hand to say I couldn’t be more wrong about Gase. Like I never thought he was a great coach but I thought he would be fine if he just developed Darnold. Since that adderall press conference, he was been a total weirdo. Coaches like him getting second chances before Eric Bienemy gets one are a joke. the sad part is I think Darnold can be really good but he is toxic environment. If not for that one SB 50 years, they would be one of the worst franchises in sports. What a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykidsdad Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 1 hour ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: You don’t need to have a relationship with everyone in the building. You don’t need to address problems with the team or speak to the team at half time. You need to have good players that can execute the plays based off a sound game plan on Game Days. Jets don’t have good players...their coaching staff doesn’t develop good game plans. Look at it this way... Change nothing about GASE, except make him a Game Planning/Playcalling genius. No one would say anything You can be aloof and weird if you are great. But when you are not a good coach AND you are aloof and weird...disaster. I agree. However, there are genius coaches who do it the opposite way and motivate the people around them and do a good job managing egos of good players and the brilliant coaches around them and have enough football iq to know who to delegate to. I think there are different ways to be great. In the end, though, you need good players and good coaches collectively. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 23 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: No do I. I do like Joe Douglas the GM though. If they get out of the way and let him work they will get better. It seems like such an easy job too. Build up the line and load up on skill players. As much as fans talk about how bad Allen’s weapons have been, Darnold has had awful targets. That franchise is a joke, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: No ***** Sherlock. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said: Any of the Jets players on your man crush list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 11 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Since I’m a big man and so rarely wrong, I am raising my hand to say I couldn’t be more wrong about Gase. Like I never thought he was a great coach but I thought he would be fine if he just developed Darnold. Since that adderall press conference, he was been a total weirdo. Coaches like him getting second chances before Eric Bienemy gets one are a joke. the sad part is I think Darnold can be really good but he is toxic environment. If not for that one SB 50 years, they would be one of the worst franchises in sports. What a joke. I wouldn't call it sad. At the time of the draft Darnold was the one I wanted the Bills to get. Allen has done a good so far considering he was supposed to sit for a year. This year is put up or shut up time for Josh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Just about every fan from every team has known that Gase is not cut out to be a HC. He is a Slightly better than ave OC as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Florida Bills Fanatic Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 There have been numerous coaches that are good X's and O's guys. Unfortunately, many of them have no charisma and are not capable of really relating to their organizations. The few that are great at both are rare. Bill Walsh is the best example that I can think of who was great at both. I don't think that anyone would project Gase being in the mold of Walsh or anyone like him. Selecting a guy to lead your football team because he is a good play caller is total folly. The JESTS will continue to be a dumpster fire until they overpay to get an established capable head coach in the building. They have shown that they are willing to over pay for free agent players. Doing this for a good head coach would be more productive. Let the coordinators be the X and O guys and the head coach be the strong leader. I have to admit that I take great pleasure watching the JESTS flounder like an intoxicated mud wrestler ( like that visual?). Like others have stated, it's great that the Bills are out of this recycled failed head coaching merry go round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bss Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: Just about every fan from every team has known that Gase is not cut out to be a HC. He is a Slightly better than ave OC as well. Wouldnt even call him an above average OC. Not counting when he had Peyton Manning who is basically his own offensive coordinator, his offenses have ranked 21st, 24th, 25th, 31st, and 32nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 If we’re playing sh---y and we’re losing, he doesn’t address the entire team as a group at halftime. He’ll walk out of the locker room and let another coach handle it.” Here's a tip: stop playing "sh---ty" and STFU. No one wants to drink your tears, son. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: If we’re playing sh---y and we’re losing, he doesn’t address the entire team as a group at halftime. He’ll walk out of the locker room and let another coach handle it.” Here's a tip: stop playing "sh---ty" and STFU. No one wants to drink your tears, son. I never heard of a head coach not talking to the time at halftime. That’s weird. Gase is weird. He seems antisocial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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