Ed Oliver Arrested DWI

[MAJBobby]

13 minutes ago, Clutchwarfare said:

Buffalo Bills first round pick DT arrested during off season. 

nope still don’t 

[Big Gun]

2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

The suspension probably happens in 2021 not 2020. He'll get 4 games in 2021.

Doubt he gets suspended at all.

[MAJBobby]

12 minutes ago, artmalibu said:

Texas does require a permit for handguns.  It is very easy to get, considering he has lived there his whole life no reason why he should not have it.  

 

I believe the only reason for him to catch a gun charge would be because of not having the permit.  

 

If this is the case he is a real idiot!!!

no it doesn’t. It is an open carry state. To carry Concealed YES you need a permit 

[keepthefaith]

The 4-wheeler may also be a problem as I think most pro sports contracts have restrictions on activities like riding one of those. Small problem compared to the alcohol though. 

Edited May 17, 2020 by keepthefaith

[MAJBobby]

5 minutes ago, noacls said:

Are gun law senteces in texas mandatory like New York state? Thanks bobby

no because there is no charge. It is an add on crime. It is a Misdemeanor (if not tossed). Nothing like NYS laws 

[whatdrought]

Not great. 
 

I think we’ll be fine with Butler and Jefferson, though losing him will hurt. I’m more concerned about what it could do to derail his career. Hopefully he can get back to himself and stay out of trouble. 

[GreggTX]

Relax. He made a stupid mistake. He's a kid. He'll learn (I hope). I hope his impending suspension is his wakeup call. I'll be so disappointed if he's the next Darius. I'll wager he's gonna have a very difficult conversation with McDermott in the near future. He was supposed to make a big jump in progress this year. Let's hope that process doesn't get derailed. Why do these guys have to drive around with guns anyways? Just to show off? He needs to grow up.

3 minutes ago, pop gun said:

Doubt he gets suspended at all.

1st offense. McDermott is his biggest worry.

[Mark Vader]

I don't see what the big deal is here.

 

To me this looks like Ed Oliver aspires to be just like Marshawn Lynch.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

1 hour ago, Limeaid said:

Signed this year with CFL Saskatchewan Roughriders now.

He had better be careful then...mostly flat with comparatively few trees.  Less places to hide when the urge for a pantsless stroll hits.  ?

[YoloinOhio]

10 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

Not great. 
 

I think we’ll be fine with Butler and Jefferson, though losing him will hurt. I’m more concerned about what it could do to derail his career. Hopefully he can get back to himself and stay out of trouble. 

I think the suspension will be next year, so hard to say what the DL will look like at that point 

[mannc]

5 hours ago, LabattBlue said:

Does this mean he is not a “process” guy?

 

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No, he’s being processed right now...

[HappyDays]

He should be more scared of McDermott than the legal system. Honestly it doesn't look like he did something terrible, just stupid. He looks remorseful and I don't think it will be a pattern. Pretty stupid mistake but it's not as bad as I feared from the headline. Probably will end up with a minor game suspension in 2021. 2 games if the weapons charge gets dropped, otherwise 4.

[Happy]

13 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

Not great. 
 

I think we’ll be fine with Butler and Jefferson, though losing him will hurt. I’m more concerned about what it could do to derail his career. Hopefully he can get back to himself and stay out of trouble. 

 

No, it's not great.  But he's hardly the first pro athlete who got a DUI.  Ed can turn this around and move past it, if he wants to.  He has to realize the mistake and make a concerted effort not to repeat it.  I'm confident the Bills organization and Ed will be able to move past this.  But again, it is up to Ed.

[ColoradoBills]

11 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

no because there is no charge. It is an add on crime. It is a Misdemeanor (if not tossed). Nothing like NYS laws 

 

Thanks MAJBobby for educating people about "open carry states" and the difference between open carry and concealed permits.

Colorado is open carry too and it's weird but when I lived in Texas it was just a few miles away from where this incident took place.

I agree with your opinions and all that is left is to wait for the BAC test results to see what is going to happen.

 

[Mango]

4 hours ago, plenzmd1 said:

Well, o have had my license since 78, never been cited for an open container. 
 

now I gots big problem with driving while drunk , that rightly is and should be strictly enforced. I just don’t understand why if I have 3 beers in a bar, get in a car and drive home that is somehow okay, but if I have a beer as I am driving to the Home Depot and back it is somehow illegal, and worse to some people immoral. It’s a dumb law. What matters is how much I drink, not where I drink it. 
 

 

 

I’ll add to this. From an ADA in Buffalo. Open container while driving is a non-moving violation. 0 points. 99.9% of the time will only result in a ticket for about $100. 

[Freddie's Dead]

He needs to call Fiandach and Fiandach here in Rochester.  Ed Fiandach wrote the book on DWI (seriously, https://www.prweb.com/releases/2013/7/prweb10886669.htm).

Edited May 17, 2020 by Freddie's Dead

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

Marcel Oliver .... not a good look would be an understatement 

[mannc]

3 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Thanks MAJBobby for educating people about "open carry states" and the difference between open carry and concealed permits.

Colorado is open carry too and it's weird but when I lived in Texas it was just a few miles away from where this incident took place.

I agree with your opinions and all that is left is to wait for the BAC test results to see what is going to happen.

 

People would be shocked at the things a good defense lawyer can do to undermine a DWI charge...

[ThurmasThoman]

A little birdie told me, if you ever get pulled over: never admit to having even a drop of alcohol.

The officers all have dash cams, and if you say you'e been drinking, their leniency goes right out the window. Letting you off the hook and then you plow into a pedestrian WHILE THEY HAVE YOU ON TAPE saying you've been drinking... their life is over too.

If you simply say "I've had nothing to drink," you could smell like a bottle redemption center and be blackout, and they still might let you go.
Even if the cop says "are you being honest with me?"
Your answer remains: "Yes. I've had absolutely nothing to drink."

Or so I've been told...

[Punching Bag]

3 hours ago, JMF2006 said:

I hope he gets at least 200 hours of community service from the courts(that should keep him busy)

 

Considering how much time some players spend on charities it may just offset it and if judge says "it does not count, you need to spend it in this jurisdiction doing menial labor picking up trash" he should make a big deal on it, giving bad publicity to jurisdiction.  Lots of local businessmen get off with a lot less.  In one company I worked at officer did community service for charity associated with company.  Everything was going well until he was caught drinking and driving while he was supposed to doing community service and investigation revealed he spent no time at charity but charity person just checked off box saying he did.

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

4 hours ago, plenzmd1 said:

I drive with an open container all the time, and I am 57. It’s a dumb law.  

The definition of the word “moron” comes to mind

[Thurman#1]

1 hour ago, Happy said:

 

And Star or Murphy haven't gotten any better.  They're still the same over-paid, middling players that they have been.

 

 

Nonsense. Star hasn't been middling and still isn't. He's still the same very fine space eater he's always been, the guy McD knew him to be and hired him to be.

 

Fair enough that since the injury Murphy mostly hasn't been as good as they hoped. But he's also been improving and near the end of the year was playing pretty damn well, four sacks in the last five games and then two more in the playoff game, 15 of his 36 tackles in the last five games and 4 of his 9 tackles for loss in the last five games.

[Mango]

1 hour ago, HOUSE said:

You got to be pretty cheap to be without a cup holder ,

 

This is weird to me too. I’m not condoning the open container. But why not put it in a cup holder and say it was somebody else’s. But really it’s only only like a $100 fine and no points in NYS anyways.

 

I had an ADA friend tell me that if you were to get pulled over over the legal limit. Before the cop comes over, get out of your car, open a fresh bottle of booze and start chugging. Can’t prove you were drunk when driving and it’s on video you pulled a bottle out and drank outside of your car. It’s a ballsy move. I’d just prefer not to be smashed while driving. 

 

I am wondering if I his was part of the play in not putting the bottle in the back. Opens beer in front of cop. Invalidates breathalyzer/blood test bought him time at the very least. 

[MAJBobby]

12 minutes ago, mannc said:

People would be shocked at the things a good defense lawyer can do to undermine a DWI charge...

It is gonna go away. Wait for the Wet Reckless plea to happen 

[mannc]

Just now, MAJBobby said:

It is gonna go away. Wait for the Wet Reckless plea to happen 

Probably.  I just wonder if sometimes the publicity can work against a guy like Oliver, with a DA who doesn’t want to be seen rolling over for the rich and famous.

[Punching Bag]

3 hours ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said:

Can we blame this on Covid?

 

No just too many Coronas.

We can blame officers if he comes down with virus however since no masks.

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

Maybe the NFL will treat this like the Patriots filming the Bengals and not get around to it until 2023.

[Punching Bag]

3 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Hmmm.  Missing 2 games in favor of $6.8M in cap relief...

 

 

It is not relief just not guaranteed now and doubt he would be cut for most of guaranteed period.

[CaptnCoke11]

17 minutes ago, JohnnyGold said:

A little birdie told me, if you ever get pulled over: never admit to having even a drop of alcohol.

The officers all have dash cams, and if you say you'e been drinking, their leniency goes right out the window. Letting you off the hook and then you plow into a pedestrian WHILE THEY HAVE YOU ON TAPE saying you've been drinking... their life is over too.

If you simply say "I've had nothing to drink," you could smell like a bottle redemption center and be blackout, and they still might let you go.
Even if the cop says "are you being honest with me?"
Your answer remains: "Yes. I've had absolutely nothing to drink."

Or so I've been told...

Yeah.. That doesn’t work

[Just Joshin']

53 minutes ago, artmalibu said:

Texas does require a permit for handguns.  It is very easy to get, considering he has lived there his whole life no reason why he should not have it.  

 

I believe the only reason for him to catch a gun charge would be because of not having the permit.  

 

If this is the case he is a real idiot!!!

You are right and wrong.  it is legal to own a handgun without a license and have in your house or car.  You can not take that handgun out of your car without the permit.  it could be in the car, loaded and in full view - no violation.

 

Now if the car was someone else's then he my be in trouble.

 

Texas has very different guns laws than the north east US.

[Punching Bag]

3 hours ago, plenzmd1 said:

what are you crazy! Why wait for test results. We have already concluded he is a malingerer, low character guy , who is clearly a bane on socity as a whole, and the Bills in specific. After all, it's on the internet y'all! 

 

Worst part is plenzmd1 will be assigned as his AA buddy.

3 hours ago, Locomark said:

He was charged with unlawfully carrying a firearm. So you now know more about what constitutes Texas law than the 3 officers on the scene? It’s no different than driving without a license. Even if you left your license at home you don’t get a do over to go prove it later. Say he only had a concealed carry which would mean he would need to have his FOID card on him at the time. That could be a low charge but it’s going to stick.

 

I have been charged with driving without a license. I got a do over to show up at court house and it was waived.  Depends on state.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

4 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

Maybe the NFL will treat this like the Patriots filming the Bengals and not get around to it until 2023.

I thought you might suggest giving the Patriots another compensatory draft pick.

[JaCrispy]

23 minutes ago, JohnnyGold said:

A little birdie told me, if you ever get pulled over: never admit to having even a drop of alcohol.

The officers all have dash cams, and if you say you'e been drinking, their leniency goes right out the window. Letting you off the hook and then you plow into a pedestrian WHILE THEY HAVE YOU ON TAPE saying you've been drinking... their life is over too.

If you simply say "I've had nothing to drink," you could smell like a bottle redemption center and be blackout, and they still might let you go.
Even if the cop says "are you being honest with me?"
Your answer remains: "Yes. I've had absolutely nothing to drink."

Or so I've been told...

This is excellent advice...I’ve been on both sides of the equation and seen it work...as a matter of fact, im actually drunk right now! ???

Edited May 17, 2020 by JaCrispy

[billsfan_34]

6 hours ago, Wayne Cubed said:

Yikes, looks like he’ll be taking a seat on the bench for part of the season.

He won’t be near the team. 4 games for the dwi, a year for dwi with the gun. 

[Punching Bag]

3 hours ago, Locomark said:

True. But watching that video changed my mind. He couldn’t put one foot in front of the other. That not distraction.

 

I am so surprised this is not a combine test.

[LABILLBACKER]

And to think I thought we had someone better than Dareus. Unbelievable......

[wiskibreth]

5 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said:

You are right and wrong.  it is legal to own a handgun without a license and have in your house or car.  You can not take that handgun out of your car without the permit.  it could be in the car, loaded and in full view - no violation.

 

Now if the car was someone else's then he my be in trouble.

 

Texas has very different guns laws than the north east US.

You're right, but I think it becomes illegal possession when you become "intoxicated" which doesn't have a stated BAC when it comes to possessing a firearm.   It's very vague.  best to not carry when drinking at all.

[njbuff]

You gotta be f-ing kidding me.

 

I wake up to this crap.

 

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[Mr. WEO]

22 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

Considering how much time some players spend on charities it may just offset it and if judge says "it does not count, you need to spend it in this jurisdiction doing menial labor picking up trash" he should make a big deal on it, giving bad publicity to jurisdiction.  Lots of local businessmen get off with a lot less.  In one company I worked at officer did community service for charity associated with company.  Everything was going well until he was caught drinking and driving while he was supposed to doing community service and investigation revealed he spent no time at charity but charity person just checked off box saying he did.

If he accepts the plea deal he does what the deal tells him to do.  Complaining is useless.

12 minutes ago, Mango said:

 

This is weird to me too. I’m not condoning the open container. But why not put it in a cup holder and say it was somebody else’s. But really it’s only only like a $100 fine and no points in NYS anyways.

 

I had an ADA friend tell me that if you were to get pulled over over the legal limit. Before the cop comes over, get out of your car, open a fresh bottle of booze and start chugging. Can’t prove you were drunk when driving and it’s on video you pulled a bottle out and drank outside of your car. It’s a ballsy move. I’d just prefer not to be smashed while driving. 

 

I am wondering if I his was part of the play in not putting the bottle in the back. Opens beer in front of cop. Invalidates breathalyzer/blood test bought him time at the very least. 

 

Your friend wants to get you in trouble.  Your BAL will reflect your pre pullover alcohol level.  If you fail the field sobriety and refuse to blow,  that blood level will have a fresh brew added to it

[billsfan_34]

15 minutes ago, Mango said:

 

This is weird to me too. I’m not condoning the open container. But why not put it in a cup holder and say it was somebody else’s. But really it’s only only like a $100 fine and no points in NYS anyways.

 

I had an ADA friend tell me that if you were to get pulled over over the legal limit. Before the cop comes over, get out of your car, open a fresh bottle of booze and start chugging. Can’t prove you were drunk when driving and it’s on video you pulled a bottle out and drank outside of your car. It’s a ballsy move. I’d just prefer not to be smashed while driving. 

 

I am wondering if I his was part of the play in not putting the bottle in the back. Opens beer in front of cop. Invalidates breathalyzer/blood test bought him time at the very least. 

Getting out of the car can get ya dead- ballsy for sure ?