stinky finger Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Wayne Cubed said: What a world we live in that we can actually see the arrest hours after it’s happened... What are his measureables? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 minute ago, plenzmd1 said: Well, there were times when I was 23 where I prolly had a beer in one hand, a Marlboro Red in another hand, and had to drive and shift too! But that was way before phones. ! where do you keep all the weed and coke at ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, fansince88 said: Texas law is moot ( thanks @JoPoy88for the correction) Didnt this happen in Montgomery County NY? Or am I misunderstanding that the gun was unregistered. Don't know whether you're kidding or not. Montgomery Co, Texas. As far as I know no determination on the gun has been released, I'm assuming it's registered. The alternative is a really big idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Just now, Bangarang said: Well isn’t this just dandy. Yup. News at a time of year where no news is good news. A DWI and a gun violation in Texas, not an easy two-fer to pull off. Stupid decisions to be sure and this will have an impact on Oliver (and possibly the Bills), but luckily no one was hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: Yep, agree should never drive drunk. Did I say I have a beer every time I get in a car? Good to know that we have banned all people driving from a restaurant and bar if they have had a drink. I think that law where they take your keys when you have had a beer was the right choice. Good to know they do the same thing at the Bills game. Many cops will tell you to go right home if they catch you or to get a Uber. When I was 19 I got stopped and a cop told me to go right home, he was cool about it. From their POV though they’re trying to see if there’s any hard drugs in the car, so if they catch someone driving under the influence their main course of action is trying to find heroin, meth, pills etc. I’m kind of torn on this because some folks can only sober up if they’re in jail for 6 months on drug charges. Most DWIs will get reduced to a DUI if only alcohol is involved. Once again though they’re mainly trying to find the hard stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Joe in Winslow said: Like him less that I did on draft day now I get 2 things from this: 1) your assessment of poor behavior is uncanny 2) your evaluation of talent is lacking 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 With the Bills shirt on. This guy's work ethic was already in question; now this raises legitimate bust concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Just now, inaugural balls said: I get 2 things from this: 1) your assessment of poor behavior is uncanny 2) your evaluation of talent is lacking Not sure 2 is accurate. He didn't exactly light the world on fire last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 He looked to perform fairly well during that sobriety test. He messed up once during walking heal to toe but im sure anyone would be nervous when they are about to go to jail. His head didnt move once when they asked his eyes to follow pen. He obviously had been drinking but based off video released i wouldnt say that was enough to convict him of a DWI. If he gets a good lawyer he may be able to get all charges dropped due to unlawful arrest. Stupid move still however. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: Don't know whether you're kidding or not. Montgomery Co, Texas. As far as I know no determination on the gun has been released, I'm assuming it's registered. The alternative is a really big idiot. No. I saw the article that was an Orchard Park news feed and just assumed it was in NY. That said, many states determine consumption of alchohol while in posession of aa weapon illegal. My guess is the beer in his lap is what made the handgun illegal to possess. Other states it is as stringent as under the influence. Anyone that has ever been to a hunting camp knows full well that law has many counts of violations. Edited May 17, 2020 by fansince88 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Woke up to this. Sad. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said: Not sure 2 is accurate. He didn't exactly light the world on fire last season. I'm searching for material, man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 47 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: How in the he’ll is that an issue? Did you see him have any issue with coaches or teammates last year? Dude “ possibly”’made a mistake. It sucks if he did, it is not a testament to his character. Sure glad you have never made a mistake. Surprised they took blood, not surprised if he refused a breathalyzer . I was stopped about 6 years ago for speeding , had a roadie open , did all my tests perfectly . They said let’s do a breathalyzer just to be sure. Told em go take a flying leap. They had no basis to believe I was impaired. I would never take a breathalyzer , especially if I was a young black man. I did not see that quote. Is there another article , I only saw the PFT blog. Thx ! Give me a break. This is absolutely a testament to his character. Guys with great work ethic, integrity, and discipline do not have this happen to them, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Just now, Victory Formation said: Many cops will tell you to go right home if they catch you or to get a Uber. When I was 19 I got stopped and a cop told me to go right home, he was cool about it. From their POV though they’re trying to see if there’s any hard drugs in the car, so if they catch someone driving under the influence their main course of action is trying to find heroin, meth, pills etc. I’m kind of torn on this because some folks can only sober up if they’re in jail for 6 months on drug charges. Most DWIs will get reduced to a DUI if only alcohol is involved. Once again though they’re mainly trying to find the hard stuff. I think if you are driving, and impaired over the legal limit , should be punished to full extent of the law. No leniency, as I believe Oliver should be. No debate on that one iota. my debate has been, and always will be , if I have one beer while driving in a car, or two beers at a bar and then drive home , am I and the general public safer after I lever the bar ? because why? If the argument is no driving after any drinking, and I mean none, let’s make everyone who has had one drink at a bar, a restaurant , Christmas gathering 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 "Don't be mistaken we are not looking for choir boys"- Beane 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Woke up to this. Sad. Im amazed you didnt break it. You're slipping my friend. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Just now, inaugural balls said: I'm searching for material, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Ask yourself if he would have been the pick if this had happened before the draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Ed Oliver now officially enters the inescapable level of moron. Congratulations Ed, you’ve worked hard for this. You deserve it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: I think if you are driving, and impaired over the legal limit , should be punished to full extent of the law. No leniency, as I believe Oliver should be. No debate on that one iota. my debate has been, and always will be , if I have one beer while driving in a car, or two beers at a bar and then drive home , am I and the general public safer after I lever the bar ? because why? If the argument is no driving after any drinking, and I mean none, let’s make everyone who has had one drink at a bar, a restaurant , Christmas gathering I believe in forgiveness for first time offenders, harsher treatment for repeat offenders. Kid is 23 years old, there’s no hard drugs in the car, reduce it to a DUI. Only time I believe in extensive jail time is if that person has a problem and they need that time to sober up in the slammer. Some folks need that 6 months in jail otherwise they’ll never get sober. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Give me a break. This is absolutely a testament to his character. Guys with great work ethic, integrity, and discipline do not have this happen to them, period. What a load of BS this is. #1) he is charged , not convicted. #2) young people make mistakes all the time, sure as hell know I did. Good to know you are being canonized for your exampler life in your early 20’s has nothing to do with his work efforts, integrity etc. just an awful leap. 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Victory Formation said: Many cops will tell you to go right home if they catch you or to get a Uber. When I was 19 I got stopped and a cop told me to go right home, he was cool about it. From their POV though they’re trying to see if there’s any hard drugs in the car, so if they catch someone driving under the influence their main course of action is trying to find heroin, meth, pills etc. I’m kind of torn on this because some folks can only sober up if they’re in jail for 6 months on drug charges. Most DWIs will get reduced to a DUI if only alcohol is involved. Once again though they’re mainly trying to find the hard stuff. My main course of action when I find someone driving while intoxicated isn’t to find the hard drugs. Its to stop someone from driving drunk. Finding drugs or anything else is just an added bonus. Your generalized statements about a cops approach to this stuff is way off. Also, saying most DWIs get reduced to DUI if only alcohol is involved is pretty bad advice. Not sure what state you’re in bud. Edited May 17, 2020 by Bangarang 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 minute ago, plenzmd1 said: What a load of BS this is. #1) he is charged , not convicted. #2) young people make mistakes all the time, sure as hell know I did. Good to know you are being canonized for your exampler life in your early 20’s has nothing to do with his work efforts, integrity etc. just an awful leap. I made mistakes too, and it had everything to do with me being undisciplined and unprincipled. Of course he'll get a chance to redeem himself, and I hope he'll be ready to maximize it and grow from this experience. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: "He determined that the driver was impaired but by possibly something besides alcohol." So with the blood draw and the gun that they found I don't know it's registered if it's fine or not but I guess we'll see how this all turns out. Doesn't look great. Gun is probably legal. It is illegal to carry a firearm while under the influence in texas. Also in texas you can travel with a handgun in a vehicle without a handgun license if the holder owns the owns the gun. Most likely he is in trouble because of the first one 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurst44 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 This sucks. Fwiw, Bills greatest defensive player of all time was suspended for cocaine (if memory serves) and that was a few years into his career, and still had a HoF career with team. Hopefully this is a blip/wake up call for Oliver. 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, bmur66 said: Doesn’t everyone have a gun and open container in a vehicle in Texas? Isn’t it illegal not to have open containers and firearms on the road there? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 45 minutes ago, sherpa said: Should have stayed on his horse. Nobody would have questioned it. Good thing he wasn't wearing his other shirt. Bill O'Brien planted the evidence anyway, wait till all the facts are in. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkirchofer Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Brennan Huff said: And get absolutely nothing in return To be fair, you did get to O’Reilly hoist the Cup. As a Blues fan, I appreciate the terrible decisions of the Sabres front office. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 I see a lot of debate about a mistake being understandable, because he’s a young guy. I agree, but there is also a point where you need to understand what you have to lose. Oliver has way more than the typical 23 year old. I don’t understand why so many guys cruise the streets of their hometowns, often drunk and high with firearms to protect themselves from their old adversaries on the streets. Nothing wrong with responsible drinking or firearm ownership, but take your millions of dollars, stay away from the streets of home, and find some decent people to chill in your mansion with. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Wayne Cubed said: What a world we live in that we can actually see the arrest hours after it’s happened... Atleast he's representing with that shirt.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 A small tremor was measured with the epicenter being a residence in Amherst at 5:23 am this morning. It was the vein in McDermotts forehead pulsing upon reading a text from Ed Oliver’s agent. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Well, that’s not good. Pretty dumb, Ed. Good thing the team brought in Vernon Butler and Quentin Jefferson and have Harrison Phillips coming back for when Oliver gets suspended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Wayne Cubed said: What a world we live in that we can actually see the arrest hours after it’s happened... Too bad he was partaking in #sportsjerseysaturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 23 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Not sure 2 is accurate. He didn't exactly light the world on fire last season. We could turn this into a debate on ability too... if you’re judging a guy off of 1 season you’re definitely jumping to conclusions. You’re also definitely basing things off of stats... because if you watch his technique and noticed how disruptive he was... you wouldn’t be making this comment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Both charges are misdemeanors he's still an idiot......hire a driver 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagoon Blues Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Seems like some are taking odd pleasure in this. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 he probably won't be suspended this coming season right? get it delayed any maybe it happens next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 18 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: I think if you are driving, and impaired over the legal limit , should be punished to full extent of the law. No leniency, as I believe Oliver should be. No debate on that one iota. Sure there's a debate about it. Or there used to be before MADD turned everyone blowing more than Lavoris into baby-killing Satan. I grew up when cops took hazardous drivers off the road for being hazardous, no matter what the reason. A random millennial with a cell phone is odds-on to be more of a hazard than me after a couple malt pops. An arbitrary limit is nonsense; people are different. And don't get me started on checkpoints which somehow passed Constitutional muster. Contrasted to the realm of Buffalo sports DWIs only, this thread is rife with laughable overreactions. But please go ahead and cut bait with a 9OA over it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Youth is wasted on the young. Wake up call for the young man. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 24 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Ask yourself if he would have been the pick if this had happened before the draft. 26 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said: "Don't be mistaken we are not looking for choir boys"- Beane Asked and answered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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