[Vague Title] The King..Is out there..Sammy

[teef]

Just now, C.Biscuit97 said:

He played well enough that the Chiefs signed him the second FA started and gave him $16 million a year.  
 

it’s funny that all these terrible ex Bills players - Watkins, Darby, Gilmore, Bradham, Ragland, Hogan - all have won rings.  Instead of being salty (not you, your post is fine), why not just say good for Sammy for overcoming his injuries and making big plays when his team needed him?

why not just let posters have their own, valid opinions about players that were once on the bills and are now on another team?

[FireChans]

4 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

You’re such a liar and full of ?.  I never said all I do is bang super models. ?  Like my 5 is probably is probably your 10 but still I have dated normies as well.  Super models are overrated anyways.

 

and I never had 4 tds in a high school game. ? but Al Bundy ended up with Sophia Vergera, so thank you.  If only you would have made JV. 

 

Yeah, these fans really showed him!!!

 

such a salty thread.  

Just incredible stuff as always. I love you Biscuit.

[Logic]

10 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Could've sworn Sammy Watkins just won a Super Bowl and played an intricate part in the W.... you'd think he was out of the league from some of these posts.?

 

I think what you MEANT to say is “I was wrong”. 

 

[Dr. K]

If this is an accurate profile, the man is seriously troubled and needs help. I feel sorry for him, but he's also scary, a potential danger to himself and others. 

[billsgpr88]

keep it up fellas, I'm sitting here like Newman in court with a bucket of popcorn

[SWATeam]

14 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Could've sworn Sammy Watkins just won a Super Bowl and played an intricate part in the W.... you'd think he was out of the league from some of these posts.?

Yes, that would be my take away from this article.  

 

Yikes.

[NewEra]

4 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

??

 

They won a Super Bowl. Your boy hasn't won a playoff game yet.?

“So dumb. Unbelievably bad.   McDermotts another dud. 20 year drought, mark it down-“- ScottLaw 

 

oh it’s marked down alright. 
 

he broke the 20 year drought in a year where he traded away all of his best players.  In a year where everyone thought we were tanking.  He and Beane have been masterful in their rebuild.  The only thing yet TBD is whether or not Josh Allen is the right guy to deliver them the Lombardi.  Nearly everything else they’ve done has been on point imo.  

[jimmy10]

I read no less insanity/inanity in yesterday’s NFL reopening/“Fauci can suck a bag of ****” thread. 

[C.Biscuit97]

16 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Just incredible stuff as always. I love you Biscuit.

I hate you. 
 

 

but as annoying as you are, I’ve come to hate you less.  Maybe I’ll just go back to being a homer.  ?
 

Josh Allen is the best qb in the nfl and anyone who says different is a ? head!!! Better?

[Teddy KGB]

3 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Sammy Watkins is not competitive. 

 

You saw this from him early. 

 

He allowed himself to be taken completely out of games. 

 

Look at the game logs. 3 catches and <35 yards. That's half of Sammy Watkins games in Buffalo. 

 

And he hasn't proven the Bills wrong at all with the Rams or Chiefs. He is a #3/#4 WR, who will never be the #1 option on a good offense. 

he just kicked butt in the playoffs and won a sb though ??‍♂️

[FireChans]

3 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I hate you. 
 

 

but as annoying as you are, I’ve come to hate you less.  Maybe I’ll just go back to being a homer.  ?
 

Josh Allen is the best qb in the nfl and anyone who says different is a ? head!!! Better?

Your playbook hasn’t changed in 10 years of posting. It’s just incredible. I now truly understand your Jauron love. It’s because you are the Jauron of TBD posters. 

Edited May 12, 2020 by FireChans

[C.Biscuit97]

20 minutes ago, Logic said:

 

I think what you MEANT to say is “I was wrong”. 

 

What about his post was wrong? Watkins was their leading receiver in the playoffs and they won the SB. 

[Alphadawg7]

This was quite informative and insightful.  So much of this makes senses now...how a guy with no injury history can go to dealing with so many things like this.  Not taking care of his body, partying, and ripping his cast off, etc.

 

One thing I will always stand by is that the talent and gifts are there.  But he was clearly a troubled soul between his personal demons and his off field troubles, struggles, and distractions.  

 

I feel bad for him, reading this just puts into perspective how difficult his journey has been both thanks to self sabotage from fighting his own demons, to the struggles and problems with those around him he cared most for.  

 

I will say this...if Sammy can get to a place where he has peace off the field...peace within himself...he could still be quite special on the field.  That being said, I don't know if he will ever find that balance though.  Reading this I just kept thinking about Cris Carter.  A guy with all this talent but his demons were holding his career back.  But once he broke through and got to a good place the rest was history.  

 

But thats not an easy task to do...and only time will tell.  I will continue to hope for his success and he finds his way out of all these dark places.  But, having read all this now, the original trade of him to the Rams not only makes perfect sense, but was pretty significant foresight for Beane and we got great value in return.  It also makes sense why Rams did not want to keep him, and instead traded for Cooks.

 

Moral of the story:  Beane is a wizard.  

[C.Biscuit97]

Just now, FireChans said:

Your playbook hasn’t changed in 10 years of posting. It’s just incredible. I now truly empathize with your Jauron love. It’s because you are the Jauron of TBD posters. 

See I was trying to extend an olive branch and you’re just stuck in d bag mood.  
 

and I thought you were a new poster here.  I literally have no idea who you are.  But I’m glad you remember me.  Maybe one day I’ll remember something about you.  

[Stank_Nasty]

14 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I hate you. 
 

 

but as annoying as you are, I’ve come to hate you less.  Maybe I’ll just go back to being a homer.  ?
 

Josh Allen is the best qb in the nfl and anyone who says different is a ? head!!! Better?

That fact that you don’t understand there’s a huge area of reasonable thinking between the homers you describe and the people who theme their posts similar to you is funny. 

5 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

This isn't allowed to be discussed. It's a bash Sammy and praise McBeane thread. ?

There’s a long list of guys that have had really nice playoff runs or Super Bowls and just weren’t really all that good as whole. I don’t understand why the playoffs thing is such a default response. It’s honestly just really lazy. 

Edited May 12, 2020 by Stank_Nasty

[Chicken Boo]

3 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:

Loved the use of the cliche Native American Wolf story....he isn't crazy, he is an immature idiot who thinks he is intelligent. 

 

I have a good friend like this.  He's a good guy and his heart is in the right place, but his mind...wanders, to put it gently.

[Logic]

10 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

What about his post was wrong? Watkins was their leading receiver in the playoffs and they won the SB. 

 

He called McDermott a dud and said “20 years of no playoffs, mark it down.”

 

Id say that’s...objectively wrong.

[NewEra]

12 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Masterful is a little much don't you think? 

 

They are right at the .500 mark and have 0 playoffs wins through 3 years.... your telling me they couldn't have used Sammy last season? 

 

The problem is the standards from Bills fans is so low due to the past two decades that McBeane are looked at as geniuses... they are definitely better than what the franchise has had but still have much to prove. 

 

Anyway, I thought the point of this thread was to bash the weirdness that is the Super Bowl champ Sammy Watkins? 

Always have to argue something.  Now let’s argue about what masterful means.  Never stops

[atlbillsfan1975]

35 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

He played well enough that the Chiefs signed him the second FA started and gave him $16 million a year.  
 

it’s funny that all these terrible ex Bills players - Watkins, Darby, Gilmore, Bradham, Ragland, Hogan - all have won rings.  Instead of being salty (not you, your post is fine), why not just say good for Sammy for overcoming his injuries and making big plays when his team needed him?

My post was more response to that poster. 
 

Honestly, I do not wish Sammy anything but the best. I think he is in a great place for him. 

[K-9]

43 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Could've sworn Sammy Watkins just won a Super Bowl and played an intricate part in the W.... you'd think he was out of the league from some of these posts.?

Are you suggesting the Sammy Watkins we traded in August of ‘17 is the same Sammy Watkins that won a SB in February of 2020? That’s a specious argument at best not to mention lazy.

[Dragoon]

This is a baaaaad look for Whaley. 

[NewEra]

14 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Masterful is a little much don't you think? 

 

They are right at the .500 mark and have 0 playoffs wins through 3 years.... your telling me they couldn't have used Sammy last season? 

 

The problem is the standards from Bills fans is so low due to the past two decades that McBeane are looked at as geniuses... they are definitely better than what the franchise has had but still have much to prove. 

 

Anyway, I thought the point of this thread was to bash the weirdness that is the Super Bowl champ Sammy Watkins? 

Last I knew, the purpose of saying “mark it down” is so we can discuss it later on.  
 

it’s later on. Another 20 year drought, you predicted. Discuss your bold statement 

[C.Biscuit97]

8 minutes ago, Logic said:

 

He called McDermott a dud and said “20 years of no playoffs, mark it down.”

 

Id say that’s...objectively wrong.

Ok, then that’s wrong.  

[billykay]

3 hours ago, matter2003 said:

Sounds like either he has the gift like a medium/psychic/empath does where they can sense and have other worldly/dimensional entities make themselves known to them or he has some serious challenges mentally.  I know a few people with those type of abilities and I 100% believe in it but sometimes it is hard to discern those people from people with mental illness.  Unsure of what he has going on but it sounds like a rough path he has to follow.

I don't know who you know, but imho they all have mental health issues.

[C.Biscuit97]

4 minutes ago, Dragoon said:

This is a baaaaad look for Whaley. 

Why?  I mean I would be one thing If Sammy was a homeless guy or in prison.  Dude just played a key role in winning a SB.  
 

for some reason, people love RI and made every excuse for him.  Now, Watkins who has never been in trouble, is some kind of maniac?  

[Radar]

And we paid two first rounders for him. I was not happy at all at the time but this really puts an even blacker mark on it.

[Golden*Wheels]

Jeez I know it can happen to almost anyone but it's bad enough to draft a nut job in your normal spot...but to trade up for the privilege of doing so.....woof. And this nuttiness....seems like it must have at least been visible pre-draft?

 

He must have had really nice feet or something.

[C.Biscuit97]

13 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:

 

I have a good friend like this.  He's a good guy and his heart is in the right place, but his mind...wanders, to put it gently.

I think most people think some crazy thoughts but it’s a question of whether to express them or not.  Then some people like Stephen King or Eminem make a lot of money expressing crazy thoughts.  
 

Sammy has money so he’s eccentric. 

[teef]

17 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:There’s a long list of guys that have had really nice playoff runs or Super Bowls and just weren’t really all that good as whole. I don’t understand why the playoffs thing is such a default response. It’s honestly just really lazy. 

 

It’s 1000% lazy.  That’s why there tends to be only two posters who do it on the regular.  Oddly enough, they were the same two posters who consistently repeated the records of mcd and Gase to try and draw some comparison in the type of coaches they were. Completely lazy. 

[Paulus]

Sammy, Richie, and OJ in the true true. Seriously, there is a fine line between madness and greatness. One must endure a lot to even be close to either.

[NewEra]

1 minute ago, ScottLaw said:

Then the title of the thread should be changed...

Where did I suggest that?

The original sammy was traded thread is linked in this thread and is closed in archives. You can’t post there.  What better place than here?  Or should it be in its own thread?

[Motorin']

1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I think most people think some crazy thoughts but it’s a question of whether to express them or not.  Then some people like Stephen King or Eminem make a lot of money expressing crazy thoughts.  
 

Sammy has money so he’s eccentric. 

 

And just to be on the safe side, he should stay away from the drugs and alcohol. 

 

[HappyDays]

27 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

your telling me they couldn't have used Sammy last season? 

 

This ignores the fact that we traded Sammy specifically to get a draft pick to use in a trade up for a QB in 2018. He wasn't traded in a vacuum. They were doing everything possible to make sure they would have the capital needed to get a QB. If the choice is Mason Rudolph + Sammy Watkins, or just Josh Allen, there's no debate.

[Doc Brown]

Effin Whaley.  Did you even interview this guy before mortgaging your future for him?

 

I always thought he was prematurely celebrating but maybe he was pointing to the cloud where his great great grandfather was watching from in spirit.

 

[Jauronimo]

2 minutes ago, Paulus said:

Sammy, Richie, and OJ in the true true. Seriously, there is a fine line between madness and greatness. One must endure a lot to even be close to either.

Save your words.  These guys do not understand the warrior mentality.  

[YoloinOhio]

So, Sammy is promising "World War III" if he doesn't get his share of the football this year with the Chiefs. 
 

 

[Bferra13]

Headlines spinning this as another, "Athlete Wants out of Buffalo" story. Should be more like, "Watkins is a Raving Psychotic and Probably Needs Help."

[C.Biscuit97]

4 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

And just to be on the safe side, he should stay away from the drugs and alcohol. 

 

Completely reasonable.  The Sammy who came from Clemson was not the Sammy who left Buffalo.  Whenever I saw him, he was with a bunch of dudes you would never think he would ever hang out with.  And I know why he was hanging out with them.  

[NewEra]

7 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Why?  I mean I would be one thing If Sammy was a homeless guy or in prison.  Dude just played a key role in winning a SB.  
 

for some reason, people love RI and made every excuse for him.  Now, Watkins who has never been in trouble, is some kind of maniac?  

The dude that we traded up for for drank and smoked fatties til 4am every night, slept 2 hours and went to work.  We all wondered wth the problem was with him. Why is he always hurt?  Why does he call fans out telling them to go back to their little jobs?  Now we know. It’s not as if he was an angel during his time here. 
 

I’ve always been a sammy supporter, but now that the cards are on the table, it’s quite obvious why he was traded.  

[Albany,n.y.]

Sammy 100 years from now: