YoloinOhio Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 KOD for a QB Also using a 4th rd pick to trade for Foles means they want him to play imo 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: KOD for a QB Also using a 4th rd pick to trade for Foles means they want him to play imo I've wondered IF the Bears picked Mahomes would KC have moved up for Trubisky? That would change a lot of posts on this board! LOL. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Foles is gonna have to screw the pooch to not be the starter, jmo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: I've wondered IF the Bears picked Mahomes would KC have moved up for Trubisky? That would change a lot of posts on this board! LOL. I don’t think Reid would have done that for anyone but Mahomes. Trubisky only had a handful of college starts, and I think that was an important factor for teams (other than Chicago, obviously). Edited May 2, 2020 by Drunken Pygmy Goat 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Well this is a shocker... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 He had his 15 minutes of fame in his 2nd season but it looks like he’ll be another guy who was crowned a franchise QB too early. Also, Foles is going to eclipse Josh McCown for being the ultimate journeyman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 This is a surprise to who? Even in his 12 win season he was average at best. I’m happy for people from Chicago for having two SB appearances and one win, but they’ve also faced a lot of adversity too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 2, 2020 Author Share Posted May 2, 2020 I don’t think Trubisky is done for good but he’s done in Chicago. He was really raw coming out of college and things just seemed to get off on the wrong foot from the beginning. He was booed at the Bulls game the night after he was drafted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 13 minutes ago, Bangarang said: He had his 15 minutes of fame in his 2nd season but it looks like he’ll be another guy who was crowned a franchise QB too early. Also, Foles is going to eclipse Josh McCown for being the ultimate journeyman. Fitzpatrick still reigns supreme 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeBreton Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 I don’t think Trubisky is as bad as he showed last year, but he’s also not very good either. Expectations were so high so he was kind of doomed from the beginning. I think he was dealing with some injuries last season, he’s usually fairly mobile but he wasn’t running at all last year. Should be interesting to see how this plays out in Chicago, Foles isn’t the model of health so Trubisky should get a look next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 27 minutes ago, Bangarang said: He had his 15 minutes of fame in his 2nd season but it looks like he’ll be another guy who was crowned a franchise QB too early. Also, Foles is going to eclipse Josh McCown for being the ultimate journeyman. yeah- he’s that cautionary tale of what a plateau after year 2 looks like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 21 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I don’t think Trubisky is done for good but he’s done in Chicago. He was really raw coming out of college and things just seemed to get off on the wrong foot from the beginning. He was booed at the Bulls game the night after he was drafted. Would not be surprised to see him end up in Carolina as a backup next season. Or Tenn. Teddy/Tanny, Mitch and a rookie battling for the QB spot in a season or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 43 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: I've wondered IF the Bears picked Mahomes would KC have moved up for Trubisky? That would change a lot of posts on this board! LOL. They would have moved up for Watson & the conversation would be the same. Here's something I haven't seen discussed very often: If Rex Ryan was still the coach, the Bills would have taken Watson. No way Rex lets a Clemson guy get away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 This isn’t the nail in his coffin people are making it out to be. The franchise tag is $24 million, and the 5th year option is $19 million. No reason to risk guaranteeing him for injury unless they’re 90% sure they want him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 55 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: I've wondered IF the Bears picked Mahomes would KC have moved up for Trubisky? That would change a lot of posts on this board! LOL. Unfortunately, if Trubisky was there at 10 I think we would have taken him. I think he was the guy McDermott liked and when he was taken, he punted on quarterback. They worked him out a bunch of times and even had Terry Pegula fly down to chapel hill to meet him. I think Mitch was their guy. So the negative posts quota would have remained the same, if not worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Bangarang said: Also, Foles is going to eclipse Josh McCown for being the ultimate journeyman. Fitzpatrick has to be up there. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, Billl said: This isn’t the nail in his coffin people are making it out to be. The franchise tag is $24 million, and the 5th year option is $19 million. No reason to risk guaranteeing him for injury unless they’re 90% sure they want him. He’s done in Chicago. They’re going to move on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Bears have two backups competing for the starting spot. My God, is that all too familiar. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 2, 2020 Author Share Posted May 2, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Billl said: This isn’t the nail in his coffin people are making it out to be. The franchise tag is $24 million, and the 5th year option is $19 million. No reason to risk guaranteeing him for injury unless they’re 90% sure they want him. I disagree completely. If the Bears thought he could still be their franchise QB they 100% pick up the option. There is a possibility that he turns things around and ends up signing an extension but it doesn’t appear likely that he will even play. Edited May 2, 2020 by YoloinOhio 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said: I've wondered IF the Bears picked Mahomes would KC have moved up for Trubisky? That would change a lot of posts on this board! LOL. No. Veach and Reid were in love with Mahomes. From what I heard they'd have taken Watson if he had fallen down the board but the only guy they were giving up a future #1 for was Mahomes. 19 minutes ago, Bangarang said: He’s done in Chicago. They’re going to move on. I agree long term he is done. He will start at least some of this year though. Foles sucks too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 2, 2020 Author Share Posted May 2, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Unfortunately, if Trubisky was there at 10 I think we would have taken him. I think he was the guy McDermott liked and when he was taken, he punted on quarterback. They worked him out a bunch of times and even had Terry Pegula fly down to chapel hill to meet him. I think Mitch was their guy. So the negative posts quota would have remained the same, if not worse. Seems like the Bills were not going to take a QB that year. They wanted a full year to scout QBs with their FO, not draft one tied to whaley Tbh the Bears could have talked to anyone associated with college football and they would have told them that Deshaun Watson was a much better bet than Trubisky. Everyone knew this. Mock the Bears endlessly. Edited May 2, 2020 by YoloinOhio 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: No. Veach and Reid were in love with Mahomes. From what I heard they'd have taken Watson if he had fallen down the board but the only guy they were giving up a future #1 for was Mahomes. Boy I got a lot of replies to my post. I "LOL'ed" in it. I posted a joke in reference to the uncountable "passed on Mahomes" posts on this board. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said: I've wondered IF the Bears picked Mahomes would KC have moved up for Trubisky? That would change a lot of posts on this board! LOL. Reid would have selected Watson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Fitzpatrick has to be up there. Fitz is 37 and is on team 8, Foles is 31 and on team 6. I like Foles’ chances to surpass Fitz. Edited May 2, 2020 by Bangarang 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: KOD for a QB Also using a 4th rd pick to trade for Foles means they want him to play imo the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Fitz is 37 and is on team 8, Foles is 31 and on team 6. I like Foles’ chances to surpass Fitz. Philadelphia Eagles St Louis Rams Kansas City (not state) Chiefs Philadelphia Eagles (again) Jacksonville Jaguars Chicago Bears Yes 6 but same team twice. Only 5 teams. Exaggeration makes argument less valid. Year Tm 2012 PHI 2013* PHI 2014 PHI 2015 STL 2016 KAN 2017 PHI 2018 PHI 2019 JAX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 13 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Philadelphia Eagles St Louis Rams Kansas City (not state) Chiefs Philadelphia Eagles (again) Jacksonville Jaguars Chicago Bears Yes 6 but same team twice. Only 5 teams. Exaggeration makes argument less valid. Year Tm 2012 PHI 2013* PHI 2014 PHI 2015 STL 2016 KAN 2017 PHI 2018 PHI 2019 JAX Oh goodness, egg all over my face. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 52 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I disagree completely. If the Bears thought he could still be their franchise QB they 100% pick up the option. There is a possibility that he turns things around and ends up signing an extension but it doesn’t appear likely that he will even play. 1 hour ago, Bangarang said: He’s done in Chicago. They’re going to move on. I agree with both of you. Just saying that his 5th year option really doesn’t provide much value over the franchise tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 37 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Seems like the Bills were not going to take a QB that year. They wanted a full year to scout QBs with their FO, not draft one tied to whaley Tbh the Bears could have talked to anyone associated with college football and they would have told them that Deshaun Watson was a much better bet than Trubisky. Everyone knew this. Mock the Bears endlessly. Trubisky is the only one they did not get a chance to pass on. I agree that they likely were not going to take a qb early in 2017, but I do believe they would have taken Trubisky at 10 if he were there. I know Whaley was getting fired and all reports seemed to suggest Watson was his guy, but all signs pointed to the Bills (McDermott) loving Mitch. I mean we will never know the truth, But McDermott would have had a good grip on Trubisky having been from Carolina. To your second point, I think, at least the top ten, all agreed that Mitch was the best. A bunch of teams who needed QBs passed on Mahomes and Watson. Obviously everyone was pretty much wrong accept for the Chiefs and Texans, but the Bears would have been mocked if they picked either of those guys at 2 at the time. Obviously, we should all mock the Bears now, but I have to say I do feel a bit bad for them. Not a lot, just a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 I would rather have Jake from State Farm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Bangarang said: Also, Foles is going to eclipse Josh McCown for being the ultimate journeyman. "How soon you forget about me!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga boy Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Next stop ? for ARod?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 2, 2020 Author Share Posted May 2, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Billl said: I agree with both of you. Just saying that his 5th year option really doesn’t provide much value over the franchise tag. Top 10 picks have a higher 5th year option cost. It’s the 2020 QB transition tag amount Edited May 2, 2020 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I don’t think Trubisky is done for good but he’s done in Chicago. He was really raw coming out of college and things just seemed to get off on the wrong foot from the beginning. He was booed at the Bulls game the night after he was drafted. They have NEVER had a real quarterback. I mean maybe Sid Luckman 70 years ago. In the modern era they’ve never had one. It’s an incredible run unrivaled in any sport - I’m struggling to think of a second-place organization for longest-running tenure without a great player in a key position. Maybe the Knicks and Center? Ewing was very good but never got them over the hump. Anyway, the Bears... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 They would probably decline his 4th year if they could. The guy sucks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 4 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: I've wondered IF the Bears picked Mahomes would KC have moved up for Trubisky? That would change a lot of posts on this board! LOL. And Pegula supposedly wanted Trubisky...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 it's called the Windy City because when you whiff that hard, the breeze still swirls around 6 months later 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said: They have NEVER had a real quarterback. I mean maybe Sid Luckman 70 years ago. In the modern era they’ve never had one. It’s an incredible run unrivaled in any sport - I’m struggling to think of a second-place organization for longest-running tenure without a great player in a key position. Maybe the Knicks and Center? Ewing was very good but never got them over the hump. Anyway, the Bears... You wouldn't consider Jim McMahon a real quarterback? I'm not being a smartass just asking a sincere question. That Bears era was before my time so I'm curious. I know he wasn't elite by any means but I always thought he was considered a legit starting quarterback in the NFL. And yes I'm completely aware it was the Bears defense that carried the team then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Sometimes an average talent gets into a situation where other players make him look better than he is. Sometimes a good talent gets into a situation where the scheme or the coaches or the other players are a bad fit. (Ref: Rosen, Josh, over and over) Fortunately for these guys, they have a lot of money in the bank. 5 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said: You wouldn't consider Jim McMahon a real quarterback? I'm not being a smartass just asking a sincere question. That Bears era was before my time so I'm curious. I know he wasn't elite by any means but I always thought he was considered a legit starting quarterback in the NFL. And yes I'm completely aware it was the Bears defense that carried the team then. McMahon was very good, but not elite. The 85 Bears defense was the best in history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Utah John said: Sometimes an average talent gets into a situation where other players make him look better than he is. Sometimes a good talent gets into a situation where the scheme or the coaches or the other players are a bad fit. (Ref: Rosen, Josh, over and over) Fortunately for these guys, they have a lot of money in the bank. McMahon was very good, but not elite. The 85 Bears defense was the best in history. That's how I've always perceived McMahon. So I'm not sure I would agree with the other guys statement that the Bears have NEVER had a real quarterback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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