Bears decline 5th year option on Trubisky

[YoloinOhio]

KOD for a QB

 

 

Also using a 4th rd pick to trade for Foles means they want him to play imo 

[ColoradoBills]

2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

KOD for a QB

 

 

Also using a 4th rd pick to trade for Foles means they want him to play imo 

 

I've wondered IF the Bears picked Mahomes would KC have moved up for Trubisky?

That would change a lot of posts on this board!  LOL.

[Don Otreply]

Foles is gonna have to screw the pooch to not be the starter, jmo. 

[Drunken Pygmy Goat]

8 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

I've wondered IF the Bears picked Mahomes would KC have moved up for Trubisky?

That would change a lot of posts on this board!  LOL.

I don’t think Reid would have done that for anyone but Mahomes. Trubisky only had a handful of college starts, and I think that was an important factor for teams (other than Chicago, obviously).

Edited May 2, 2020 by Drunken Pygmy Goat

[WMDman]

Well this is a shocker...

[Bangarang]

He had his 15 minutes of fame in his 2nd season but it looks like he’ll be another guy who was crowned a franchise QB too early. 
 

Also, Foles is going to eclipse Josh McCown for being the ultimate journeyman.

[machine gun kelly]

This is a surprise to who?  Even in his 12 win season he was average at best.  I’m happy for people from Chicago for having two SB appearances and one win, but they’ve also faced a lot of adversity too.

[YoloinOhio]

I don’t think Trubisky is done for good but he’s done in Chicago. He was really raw coming out of college and things just seemed to get off on the wrong foot from the beginning. He was booed at the Bulls game the night after he was drafted.

[GoBills808]

13 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

He had his 15 minutes of fame in his 2nd season but it looks like he’ll be another guy who was crowned a franchise QB too early. 
 

Also, Foles is going to eclipse Josh McCown for being the ultimate journeyman.

Fitzpatrick still reigns supreme

[CapeBreton]

I don’t think Trubisky is as bad as he showed last year, but he’s also not very good either. Expectations were so high so he was kind of doomed from the beginning.

 

I think he was dealing with some injuries last season, he’s usually fairly mobile but he wasn’t running at all last year. Should be interesting to see how this plays out in Chicago, Foles isn’t the model of health so Trubisky should get a look next year. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

27 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

He had his 15 minutes of fame in his 2nd season but it looks like he’ll be another guy who was crowned a franchise QB too early. 
 

Also, Foles is going to eclipse Josh McCown for being the ultimate journeyman.

yeah- he’s that cautionary tale of what a plateau after year 2 looks like. 

[FireChans]

21 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I don’t think Trubisky is done for good but he’s done in Chicago. He was really raw coming out of college and things just seemed to get off on the wrong foot from the beginning. He was booed at the Bulls game the night after he was drafted.

Would not be surprised to see him end up in Carolina as a backup next season. Or Tenn. 

 

Teddy/Tanny, Mitch and a rookie battling for the QB spot in a season or two.

[Albany,n.y.]

43 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

I've wondered IF the Bears picked Mahomes would KC have moved up for Trubisky?

That would change a lot of posts on this board!  LOL.

They would have moved up for Watson & the conversation would be the same.  

Here's something I haven't seen discussed very often:  If Rex Ryan was still the coach, the Bills would have taken Watson.  No way Rex lets a Clemson guy get away.  

[Billl]

This isn’t the nail in his coffin people are making it out to be.  The franchise tag is $24 million, and the 5th year option is $19 million.  No reason to risk guaranteeing him for injury unless they’re 90% sure they want him.

[MrEpsYtown]

55 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

I've wondered IF the Bears picked Mahomes would KC have moved up for Trubisky?

That would change a lot of posts on this board!  LOL.

Unfortunately, if Trubisky was there at 10

I think we would have taken him. I think he was the guy McDermott liked and when he was taken, he punted on quarterback. They worked him out a bunch of times and even had Terry Pegula fly down to chapel hill to meet him. I think Mitch was their guy. So the negative posts quota would have remained the same, if not worse. 

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

1 hour ago, Bangarang said:

 

Also, Foles is going to eclipse Josh McCown for being the ultimate journeyman.

 

Fitzpatrick has to be up there.

[Bangarang]

5 minutes ago, Billl said:

This isn’t the nail in his coffin people are making it out to be.  The franchise tag is $24 million, and the 5th year option is $19 million.  No reason to risk guaranteeing him for injury unless they’re 90% sure they want him.

He’s done in Chicago. They’re going to move on.

[Gugny]

Bears have two backups competing for the starting spot.  My God, is that all too familiar.

[YoloinOhio]

25 minutes ago, Billl said:

This isn’t the nail in his coffin people are making it out to be.  The franchise tag is $24 million, and the 5th year option is $19 million.  No reason to risk guaranteeing him for injury unless they’re 90% sure they want him.

I disagree completely. If the Bears thought he could still be their franchise QB they 100% pick up the option. There is a possibility that he turns things around and ends up signing an extension but it doesn’t appear likely that he will even play. 

Edited May 2, 2020 by YoloinOhio

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

I've wondered IF the Bears picked Mahomes would KC have moved up for Trubisky?

That would change a lot of posts on this board!  LOL.

 

No. Veach and Reid were in love with Mahomes. From what I heard they'd have taken Watson if he had fallen down the board but the only guy they were giving up a future #1 for was Mahomes.

19 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

He’s done in Chicago. They’re going to move on.

 

I agree long term he is done. He will start at least some of this year though. Foles sucks too.

[YoloinOhio]

28 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

Unfortunately, if Trubisky was there at 10

I think we would have taken him. I think he was the guy McDermott liked and when he was taken, he punted on quarterback. They worked him out a bunch of times and even had Terry Pegula fly down to chapel hill to meet him. I think Mitch was their guy. So the negative posts quota would have remained the same, if not worse. 

Seems like the Bills were not going to take a QB that year. They wanted a full year to scout QBs with their FO, not draft one tied to whaley
 

Tbh the Bears could have talked to anyone associated with college football and they would have told them that Deshaun Watson was a much better bet than Trubisky. Everyone knew this. 

Mock the Bears endlessly.

Edited May 2, 2020 by YoloinOhio

[ColoradoBills]

4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

No. Veach and Reid were in love with Mahomes. From what I heard they'd have taken Watson if he had fallen down the board but the only guy they were giving up a future #1 for was Mahomes.

 

Boy I got a lot of replies to my post.  I "LOL'ed" in it.  

I posted a joke in reference to the uncountable "passed on Mahomes" posts on this board.

[Chicken Boo]

1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

I've wondered IF the Bears picked Mahomes would KC have moved up for Trubisky?

That would change a lot of posts on this board!  LOL.

 

Reid would have selected Watson.

[Bangarang]

39 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

 

Fitzpatrick has to be up there.

Fitz is 37 and is on team 8, Foles is 31 and on team 6. I like Foles’ chances to surpass Fitz.

Edited May 2, 2020 by Bangarang

[Buffalo Barbarian]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

KOD for a QB

 

 

Also using a 4th rd pick to trade for Foles means they want him to play imo 

 

the end

[Punching Bag]

11 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

Fitz is 37 and is on team 8, Foles is 31 and on team 6. I like Foles’ chances to surpass Fitz.

 

1. Philadelphia Eagles
2. St Louis Rams
3. Kansas City (not state) Chiefs
4. Philadelphia Eagles (again)
5. Jacksonville Jaguars
6. Chicago Bears

Yes 6 but same team twice.  Only 5 teams.  Exaggeration makes argument less valid.

 

Year	Tm
2012	PHI
2013*	PHI
2014	PHI
2015	STL
2016	KAN
2017	PHI
2018	PHI
2019	JAX

[Bangarang]

13 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

1. Philadelphia Eagles
2. St Louis Rams
3. Kansas City (not state) Chiefs
4. Philadelphia Eagles (again)
5. Jacksonville Jaguars
6. Chicago Bears

Yes 6 but same team twice.  Only 5 teams.  Exaggeration makes argument less valid.

 

Year	Tm
2012	PHI
2013*	PHI
2014	PHI
2015	STL
2016	KAN
2017	PHI
2018	PHI
2019	JAX

Oh goodness, egg all over my face. 

[Billl]

52 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I disagree completely. If the Bears thought he could still be their franchise QB they 100% pick up the option. There is a possibility that he turns things around and ends up signing an extension but it doesn’t appear likely that he will even play. 

 

1 hour ago, Bangarang said:

He’s done in Chicago. They’re going to move on.

I agree with both of you.  Just saying that his 5th year option really doesn’t provide much value over the franchise tag.

[MrEpsYtown]

37 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Seems like the Bills were not going to take a QB that year. They wanted a full year to scout QBs with their FO, not draft one tied to whaley
 

Tbh the Bears could have talked to anyone associated with college football and they would have told them that Deshaun Watson was a much better bet than Trubisky. Everyone knew this. 

Mock the Bears endlessly.

Trubisky is the only one they did not get a chance to pass on. I agree that they likely were not going to take a qb early in 2017, but I do believe they would have taken Trubisky at 10 if he were there. I know Whaley was getting fired and all reports seemed to suggest Watson was his guy, but all signs pointed to the Bills (McDermott) loving Mitch. I mean we will never know the truth, But McDermott would have had a good grip on Trubisky having been from Carolina. 
 

To your second point, I think, at least the top ten, all agreed that Mitch was the best. A bunch of teams who needed QBs passed on Mahomes and Watson. Obviously everyone was pretty much wrong accept for the Chiefs and Texans, but the Bears would have been mocked if they picked either of those guys at 2 at the time. Obviously, we should all mock the Bears now, but I have to say I do feel a bit bad for them. Not a lot, just a little bit.  

[HOUSE]

I would rather have Jake from State Farm

[Seasons1992]

2 hours ago, Bangarang said:

Also, Foles is going to eclipse Josh McCown for being the ultimate journeyman.

 

 

"How soon you forget about me!"

 

[Ga boy]

Next stop ? for ARod??

[YoloinOhio]

36 minutes ago, Billl said:

 

I agree with both of you.  Just saying that his 5th year option really doesn’t provide much value over the franchise tag.

Top 10 picks have a higher 5th year option cost. It’s the 2020 QB transition tag amount 

Edited May 2, 2020 by YoloinOhio

[Coach Tuesday]

3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

I don’t think Trubisky is done for good but he’s done in Chicago. He was really raw coming out of college and things just seemed to get off on the wrong foot from the beginning. He was booed at the Bulls game the night after he was drafted.

They have NEVER had a real quarterback.  I mean maybe Sid Luckman 70 years ago.  In the modern era they’ve never had one.  It’s an incredible run unrivaled in any sport - I’m struggling to think of a second-place organization for longest-running tenure without a great player in a key position.  Maybe the Knicks and Center?  Ewing was very good but never got them over the hump.

 

Anyway, the Bears...

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

They would probably decline his 4th year if they could. The guy sucks

[JaCrispy]

4 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

I've wondered IF the Bears picked Mahomes would KC have moved up for Trubisky?

That would change a lot of posts on this board!  LOL.

And Pegula supposedly wanted Trubisky...?

[stuvian]

it's called the Windy City because when you whiff that hard, the breeze still swirls around 6 months later 

[BillsPride12]

1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said:

They have NEVER had a real quarterback.  I mean maybe Sid Luckman 70 years ago.  In the modern era they’ve never had one.  It’s an incredible run unrivaled in any sport - I’m struggling to think of a second-place organization for longest-running tenure without a great player in a key position.  Maybe the Knicks and Center?  Ewing was very good but never got them over the hump.

 

Anyway, the Bears...

You wouldn't consider Jim McMahon a real quarterback?  I'm not being a smartass just asking a sincere question.  That Bears era was before my time so I'm curious.  I know he wasn't elite by any means but I always thought he was considered a legit starting quarterback in the NFL.  And yes I'm completely aware it was the Bears defense that carried the team then.

[Utah John]

Sometimes an average talent gets into a situation where other players make him look better than he is.

 

Sometimes a good talent gets into a situation where the scheme or the coaches or the other players are a bad fit.  (Ref: Rosen, Josh, over and over) Fortunately for these guys, they have a lot of money in the bank.

5 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said:

You wouldn't consider Jim McMahon a real quarterback?  I'm not being a smartass just asking a sincere question.  That Bears era was before my time so I'm curious.  I know he wasn't elite by any means but I always thought he was considered a legit starting quarterback in the NFL.  And yes I'm completely aware it was the Bears defense that carried the team then.

McMahon was very good, but not elite.  The 85 Bears defense was the best in history.

[BillsPride12]

2 minutes ago, Utah John said:

Sometimes an average talent gets into a situation where other players make him look better than he is.

 

Sometimes a good talent gets into a situation where the scheme or the coaches or the other players are a bad fit.  (Ref: Rosen, Josh, over and over) Fortunately for these guys, they have a lot of money in the bank.

McMahon was very good, but not elite.  The 85 Bears defense was the best in history.

That's how I've always perceived McMahon.  So I'm not sure I would agree with the other guys statement that the Bears have NEVER had a real quarterback.