I think Bills will draft Edwards-Helaire in the second round

[DCOrange]

18 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

So Ty Montgomery type? Maybe gets some looks at WR, but finds more career opportunities at RB?

 

That is precisely who PFF has listed as his NFL comparison

[ALLEN1QB]

How many positions do we realistically have available? I am not thinking too many this is the reason I really feel that we will put a package together to move up into the first round to get an impact player.

Edited March 23, 2020 by ALLEN1QB

[PIZ]

1 hour ago, Sherlock Holmes said:

I say just acquire McCaffrey, solves everything since he's the best at everything

Is he really available? Would definitely trade for him. What would it take?

 

 

[Boatdrinks]

4 hours ago, JinxedBill said:

Is it possible this staff values Yeldon more then the fans do?  I think they are willing to take a back in the draft and if they can’t land one will get a vet on the outside.  

 

Imo we desperately need another dynamic RB.  Yeldons not scaring anyone.  Singletary is great but I’m not sure he’s a lead back.

 

Now Dobbins I think is.  

Since Yeldon was inactive most games last season, I’d venture the staff doesn’t value him all that much. 

[Estro]

I did a little research on how many RB's tend to go in the Top 3 Rounds & what I found it's been between 6-8 RB's the last 3 drafts.

 

This year I expect it to break down as such:

 

DeAndre Swift (1st)

Jonathan Taylor (1st/2nd)

 

Clyde Edwards Helaire (2nd)

Cam Akers (2nd)

JK Dobbins (2nd)

 

Zack Moss (3rd)

Eno Benjamin (3rd)

 

Darrynton Evans (3rd/4th)

AJ Dillon (3rd/4th)

La'Mical Perine (4th)

Anthony McFarland (4th)

 

I personally think if Cam Akers is there in the 2nd, when we pick he will be under serious consideration.

 

 

I know it's not high on the list for qualities in a RB, but:  check out the throw he makes @1:07, running to his left and thows the ball over 50 yards downfild right on the spot.  That's crazy for a RB.  

 

 

 

 

Edited March 23, 2020 by Estro

[PIZ]

Any good RBs from the XFL? They can sign with NFL teams today. 
 

 

9 minutes ago, Estro said:

I did a little research on how many RB's tend to go in the Top 3 Rounds & what I found it's been between 6-8 RB's the last 3 drafts.

 

This year I expect it to break down as such:

 

DeAndre Swift (1st)

Jonathan Taylor (1st/2nd)

 

Clyde Edwards Helaire (2nd)

Cam Akers (2nd)

JK Dobbins (2nd)

 

Zack Moss (3rd)

Eno Benjamin (3rd)

 

Darrynton Evans (3rd/4th)

AJ Dillon (3rd/4th)

La'Mical Perine (4th)

Anthony McFarland (4th)

 

I personally think if Cam Akers is there in the 2nd, when we pick he will be under serious consideration.

 

 

I know it's not high on the list for qualities in a RB, but:  check out the throw he makes @1:07, running to his left and thows the ball over 50 yards downfild right on the spot.  That's crazy for a RB.  

 

 

 

 

Eno Benjamin looks like a playa. 
 

 

[Mister Defense]

If Edwards-Helaire is tough like Singletary, then he sounds like a good choice. I was thinking a big back is what the Bills would want, to complement Motor, but if Clyde can break tackles like him, then size may not matter.

 

Crappy football last name, but Clyde will work.

[Victory Formation]

I like Jonathan Taylor and JK Dobbins in RD2. If we miss out on them, I want Prince Tega Wanogho, the RT out of Auburn and AJ Dillon RD3.

[TigerJ]

I am most intrigued by Antonio Gibson, but he might be the least sure prospect of all the running backs.  I think he has the highest upside.  His body and skill set make him look like the second coming of Saquon Barkley, but his  39 career carries in college (he played more WR than RB) mean that its possible he'll do nothing in the pros.  Best case scenario - he probably still needs time to learn how to block and sharpen his running vision, use of blockers and moves.

[BringBackFlutie]

3 hours ago, Mickey said:

 

I'd rather analyze how he did in short yardage situations but the Bills didn't give him the ball in those situations, trusting Josh or Gore to handle them. Besides, not losing yardage is not exactly what you are looking for. In my limited understanding of the game, the goal is to gain yards, not avoid losing them. Devin is awesome at that in many situations but. 4th and 1 guy he is not. Call me crazy but we already have a small, quick guy, why do we need two? Is it so awful to have a guy who can bull over a few defenders? I have more than one kind of knife in the drawer, you want nothing but steak knives?

No.  Just butter knives.  If you buy the right steak, that's all you need.

[TheBeaneBandit]

I'm on the Dobbins or Akers train with our 2nd round pick. Akers doesn't make it to the 3rd round fellas

[njbuff]

55 minutes ago, Estro said:

I did a little research on how many RB's tend to go in the Top 3 Rounds & what I found it's been between 6-8 RB's the last 3 drafts.

 

This year I expect it to break down as such:

 

DeAndre Swift (1st)

Jonathan Taylor (1st/2nd)

 

Clyde Edwards Helaire (2nd)

Cam Akers (2nd)

JK Dobbins (2nd)

 

Zack Moss (3rd)

Eno Benjamin (3rd)

 

Darrynton Evans (3rd/4th)

AJ Dillon (3rd/4th)

La'Mical Perine (4th)

Anthony McFarland (4th)

 

I personally think if Cam Akers is there in the 2nd, when we pick he will be under serious consideration.

 

 

I know it's not high on the list for qualities in a RB, but:  check out the throw he makes @1:07, running to his left and thows the ball over 50 yards downfild right on the spot.  That's crazy for a RB.  

 

 

 

 

I agree wholeheartedly.

 

Akers is the best back in this draft.

 

He played behind the worst OL in college for 3 years and still managed to produce.

 

He does everything well and would a great fit in this offense.

 

But, I think the Bills want Noah Igbinoghene first and foremost, so whomever you guys are projecting for later on in the draft is who the Bills will look at.

 

 

[maryland-bills-fan]

3 hours ago, pop gun said:

As good as he is, IMO the Bills re not going with two 5'7" guys in their backfield.

Good point.  Hope one of the top 3 drops to us.

[C.Biscuit97]

I like the player a lot but this would be such a Bulls pick. Roscoe 2.0.

[maryland-bills-fan]

3 hours ago, thebandit27 said:

I know that when I look at Buffalo’s roster I think to myself: the one thing they’re missing is a 5’7” RB with 4.6 speed that can’t pass protect, but he’s shifty and can slash for yards effectively.

 

Wait...

Thomas was not a great pass blocker.  He WAS great at chipping and then sneaking behind the defensive line and taking a short pass, beating the linebacker and getting a big chunk.  With the 3 good wide receivers and some pass catching from the TE, there will be plenty of room for such plays.

[Dopey]

1 hour ago, Estro said:

I did a little research on how many RB's tend to go in the Top 3 Rounds & what I found it's been between 6-8 RB's the last 3 drafts.

 

This year I expect it to break down as such:

 

DeAndre Swift (1st)

Jonathan Taylor (1st/2nd)

 

Clyde Edwards Helaire (2nd)

Cam Akers (2nd)

JK Dobbins (2nd)

 

Zack Moss (3rd)

Eno Benjamin (3rd)

 

Darrynton Evans (3rd/4th)

AJ Dillon (3rd/4th)

La'Mical Perine (4th)

Anthony McFarland (4th)

 

I personally think if Cam Akers is there in the 2nd, when we pick he will be under serious consideration.

 

 

I know it's not high on the list for qualities in a RB, but:  check out the throw he makes @1:07, running to his left and thows the ball over 50 yards downfild right on the spot.  That's crazy for a RB.  

 

 

 

 

He played some QB in high school. How about that catch(1st highlight)!

I would love:

Akers in the 2nd

Gandy-Golden in the 3rd 

AJ Dillon in the 4th.

Edited March 23, 2020 by Dopey

[maryland-bills-fan]

42 minutes ago, Mister Defense said:

If Edwards-Helaire is tough like Singletary, then he sounds like a good choice. I was thinking a big back is what the Bills would want, to complement Motor, but if Clyde can break tackles like him, then size may not matter.

 

Crappy football last name, but Clyde will work.

I guess there are two ways to approach it.  If you have two backs that are similar there are some good things. One good thing is that you can change players during a game and not tip your hand. Another good thing is that if the starter goes down, you don't have to redo you playbook. ... ... A bad thing is that you may lack the big bruiser for goal line plays and short yardage. ... ....  Also remember you can get big bruiser guys from FA or even use a tight end in the backfield.

[maryland-bills-fan]

27 minutes ago, njbuff said:

I agree wholeheartedly.

 

Akers is the best back in this draft.

 

He played behind the worst OL in college for 3 years and still managed to produce.

 

He does everything well and would a great fit in this offense.

 

But, I think the Bills want Noah Igbinoghene first and foremost, so whomever you guys are projecting for later on in the draft is who the Bills will look at.

 

 

Swift                 5-8     212     4.48

Taylor               5-10   226    4.39

Edward-H        5-7      209    4.50

Moss                5-9     233    4.65

Dobbins           5-9    210     4.50

Akers               5-10  213     4.47

 

I could go for Akers, why do most sites consider him a round 2-3 type pick and others a 1 or a 1.2 pick? His highlights look like he has vision and useful speed.  It looks like we could get him with our #54 pick and then use 4th+ picks to move up our 3rd round pick.

Edited March 23, 2020 by maryland-bills-fan

[Thurman#1]

We have no depth at RB has some truth. We could certainly use another.

 

From there to we will draft my guy in the 2nd is a rather desperate stab. Certainly possible. I deeply doubt it myself, though I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see them draft someone a bit later.

[BurpleBull]

3 hours ago, pop gun said:

As good as he is, IMO the Bills re not going with two 5'7" guys in their backfield.

 

I hope that's not the thinking, Bills should take an impact player regardless of size. 

 

No need to start acting like we're so dynamic an offense that we can pass on talent for the sake of convention; this draft is loaded with undersized RBs.

[Thurman#1]

38 minutes ago, maryland-bills-fan said:

Thomas was not a great pass blocker.  He WAS great at chipping and then sneaking behind the defensive line and taking a short pass, beating the linebacker and getting a big chunk.  With the 3 good wide receivers and some pass catching from the TE, there will be plenty of room for such plays.

 

 

You're referring to Thurman Thomas, yes?

 

Thurman was indeed great at what you say there. But he was also very good at pass blocking.

Edited March 23, 2020 by Thurman#1

[DCOrange]

26 minutes ago, maryland-bills-fan said:

Swift                 5-8     212     4.48

Taylor               5-10   226    4.39

Edward-H        5-7      209    4.50

Moss                5-9     233    4.65

Dobbins           5-9    210     4.50

Akers               5-10  213     4.47

 

I could go for Akers, why do most sites consider him a round 2-3 type pick and others a 1 or a 1.2 pick? His highlights look like he has vision and useful speed.  It looks like we could get him with our #54 pick and then use 4th+ picks to move up our 3rd round pick.

 

Akers' draft stock has probably been hurt by the level of talent or lackthereof around him. Florida State had one of the worst OLines in football and made life a living hell for him. He seems to check a lot of boxes though; good speed and agility, good pass blocker, pretty good production as a receiver though he drops passes at a somewhat alarming rate. He probably dances a bit too much behind the line of scrimmage, but you could also argue he was forced to by the guys blocking in front of him. I think there's some bad habits there that his team will want to break but he has pretty much everything you'd be looking for in a potentially very good RB. If people want to argue that he and Moss deserve to be mentioned with the top 4 RBs in this draft, you won't really get an argument from me personally.

Edited March 23, 2020 by DCOrange

[Sherlock Holmes]

2 hours ago, PIZ said:

Is he really available? Would definitely trade for him. What would it take?

 

 

Rumors, I doubt he would be but hey they are rebuilding and we have the guys in charge who would want him. I would give anything but obviously we want something fair

[chris heff]

I don’t know enough about any of these guys, but just based on size and complimenting Singletary I’d like AJ Dillon in the fourth.

[Big Gun]

1 hour ago, BurpleBull said:

 

I hope that's not the thinking, Bills should take an impact player regardless of size. 

 

No need to start acting like we're so dynamic an offense that we can pass on talent for the sake of convention; this draft is loaded with undersized RBs.

Fair enough but they say take 2 guys of equal skill and determination the bigger guy will win 100% of the time so there is that.

[Green Lightning]

Rather get Hyde in FA and draft an RB inround 4.  We need a veteran presence in that room and someone who can pick up blitzes and block. Our time to win is now and not depend on developing somebody.

[T master]

He's the same size as Singletary why would yo want 2 backs the same size i would rather go with a veteran back that is a bit bigger to ave the size for the tough yards & the veteran leadership to mentor the younger guys or just bring up the international player Wade from the PS I think he would do fine with one year of learning under his belt ..

[BurpleBull]

17 minutes ago, T master said:

He's the same size as Singletary why would yo want 2 backs the same size i would rather go with a veteran back that is a bit bigger to ave the size for the tough yards & the veteran leadership to mentor the younger guys or just bring up the international player Wade from the PS I think he would do fine with one year of learning under his belt ..

 

I worry that the Bills will reach for a player such as AJ Dillon just because of his size, passing on a more dynamic, but undersized guy.

 

Gotta go for talent over size if it's sitting there IMO. 

[maryland-bills-fan]

I like a guy who can catch the ball and make our WR even more effective. But looking at Aiken and how he seems to be undervalued by many draftniks,,,,maybe we can get him at 54 without any tradeups and then add picks to our 3rd round pick to get some guy we really want.  It doesn't hurt that he has a bit more size.  I guess I should look up more stuf to compare Aiken, EH and Dobbins.  Changing my minds.   (both of them)

[RoyBatty is alive]

A lot of RBs last year on LSU could have looked spectacular with that incredible passing attack.

 

I wouldnt be terribly upset or shocked but I would Rather take a hot on a RB later.

[Estro]

Cam Akers is a nice prospect and I think it's going to be really close whether he makes it to our pick at #54.  I think it's about 65% chance he'll be gone.

 

I'm fairly certain Swift and Taylor will go before Akers, and then the next group is a cluster of 3 players:

 

Edwards Helaire

Cam Akers

JK Dobbins

 

It's kind of like a soup du jour, what's your preference?  I like both Akers & Edwards Helaire above Dobbins, but I think some teams might prefer Dobbins.  I'm rooting for Dobbins (who I'm not all that high on as a prospect) to go before we pick so there's a greater chance Akers and or Helaire are there @ 54.  

[billsfan_34]

14 hours ago, JinxedBill said:

Is it possible this staff values Yeldon more then the fans do?  I think they are willing to take a back in the draft and if they can’t land one will get a vet on the outside.  

 

Imo we desperately need another dynamic RB.  Yeldons not scaring anyone.  Singletary is great but I’m not sure he’s a lead back.

 

Now Dobbins I think is.  

No- as evidenced by Yeldon riding the pine last year

[Augie]

I’m glad Beane and McD will make this decision!   

[LABILLBACKER]

I think the best value would be Joshua Kelley in the 4th. Great receiver out of the backfield and a perfect compliment to Singletary. Saves the 2nd and 3rd pick for edge and wr. Now if by some miracle Jonathan Taylor falls to 54, you run to the streamed podium.....

[billspro]

16 hours ago, CEN-CAL17 said:

I think Akers has a shot at 54 as well. I think the Bills value him.

I would prefer Akers if the top 3 guys are gone. Edwards-Helaire is a similar player to Singletary. We need someone with a different style.

[maryland-bills-fan]

6 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

I think the best value would be Joshua Kelley in the 4th. Great receiver out of the backfield and a perfect compliment to Singletary. Saves the 2nd and 3rd pick for edge and wr. Now if by some miracle Jonathan Taylor falls to 54, you run to the streamed podium.....

I disagree with your approach. Beane's approach to the top of the draft has NOT been to go for value in the draft that will give you adequate backups.  He traded up in the first two rounds the last two years to try to get studs.  Allen & Edwards, and Oliver & Ford.  This year he already got Diggs with the first pick.  The depth chart has

Patrick DiMarco
Taiwan Jones*
Devin Singletary
Christian Wade
T.J. Yeldon  at running back.   We need another starting level guy to share the position.  Another stud player to come in.

 

QB, RB, Kicker, punter are positions that don't come in "twos".  LG can swing to RG.  FS can play SS. CB1 and CB3 can switch.  If Singletary goes down, we can't replace him with a TE.

[Hampton Josh fan]

On 3/23/2020 at 7:28 AM, Mickey said:

i don't think we can afford to have two RBs on the roster who are next to useless in pass pro and short yardage situations. There are plenty of RBs with a skill set that offsets Devin's weaknesses that we will have a chance to draft. I'd pass on Edwards-Helaire.

The pluses of Edwards-Helaire far outweigh the few plays that DeMarco is not in to block. Remember,  Edwards-Helaire was far more productive for a National Championship team, than Motor playing inferior talent. 

[CEN-CAL17]

I trust this FO to pick the best RB. CEH and Akers seem to be the guys they’ve targeted. Don’t expect them to be around in the 3rd round.

 

I expect one of those guys to be the pick. JK Dobbins too... I think Beane values vision. I think CEH and Akers have better vision compared to Dobbins.

[dezertbill]

Safe to say the positions the Bills didn't make a splash in are what they will focus in on the draft.

 

RB (rounds 2-4)

Edge (rounds 2-4)

OLB 

CB

OL

 

[maryland-bills-fan]

On 3/23/2020 at 1:29 PM, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

You're referring to Thurman Thomas, yes?

 

Thurman was indeed great at what you say there. But he was also very good at pass blocking.

I was comparing him to a blocking fullback or a TE lined up in the backfield. I don't remember him pancaking a DE.