r henderson Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 With the addition of Stefon Diggs our wr group was greatly upgraded. There’s still the possibility of drafting another wr to groom for the future. I know this class is deep, but there’s always the unknown. Unless his camp is asking for a hefty contract, I believe he would round the wr group out nicely. Once considered a bust Breshad has finally caught his strive. 6”3” 215lbs, 4.35 forty speed along with a 36 inch vertical. WR sometimes take a while to develop and I believe the light has finally come on for him. His ability to stretch the field and win contested jump balls is just what the doctor ordered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 The problem with him and the construction of the roster is that he isn’t going to play very much. He just wouldn’t get enough snaps here to justify the contract he might get. A rookie or Foster or even a Rashard Higgins are better suited to that role. Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to have him, but there are teams out there who can offer him a bigger role in the offense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardhatharry Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Nah draft a guy... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 I'm at the point where I'm hoping we pick up Claypool or Pittman in the 2nd or 3rd or Peoples-Jones in the 3rd/4th if he drops that far. They will be on team friendly deals and develop and we will be set. Can't see giving another WR 6m+ for 3-4 years. We will need that money for 2021/2022 to resign our own, especially if Allen develops the way we hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 We are good at WR. I’m all for adding another pass catcher and playmaker in the passing game though. I think we need another TE. Also a RB that can catch it out of the backfield would be very nice. Help the passing game sure, but not at WR. We are more then good there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, BillsRdue said: I'm at the point where I'm hoping we pick up Claypool or Pittman in the 2nd or 3rd or Peoples-Jones in the 3rd/4th if he drops that far. They will be on team friendly deals and develop and we will be set. Can't see giving another WR 6m+ for 3-4 years. We will need that money for 2021/2022 to resign our own, especially if Allen develops the way we hope. I am warming to the idea of Claypool as he offers a real mismatch physically and has good ST playing experience. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 34 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: The problem with him and the construction of the roster is that he isn’t going to play very much. He just wouldn’t get enough snaps here to justify the contract he might get. A rookie or Foster or even a Rashard Higgins are better suited to that role. Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to have him, but there are teams out there who can offer him a bigger role in the offense. I have heard that the Bills have spoken with Higgins and that he hasn’t gotten the kinds of offers he was hoping for. No surprise this offseason. Tons of cheap WR talent to be had in the draft so no need to pay second and third tier FA WRs much. Higgins would be a good pick up at a reasonable price. Perriman too, but I’d think he’d cost more. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFT Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) Our need for his ability to stretch the field and win contested catches was nullified the moment the Bills brought in Diggs. We won’t run many 4 receiver sets with our TEs in tow. Our outside speed and inside separation is already at its best point in years. We should let these guys gel, get as much time with each other as possible and draft one of the young (raw but promising- Pittman?) prospects in this draft. Throwing the dice at the wall, first 3 picks will all be BPA and could fall in any order of DB, WR, RB. Edited March 22, 2020 by DFT 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Drafting a good WR prospect to develop makes some sense. Very seldom does a team get through a season without losing at least one of their starting WR's for multiple games. It becomes essential for playoff caliber teams to have a guy that can fill in and contribute. In addition, Brown and Beasley don't have an unlimited shelf life and developing a high potential player for the future will be important. With great depth at WR in this draft, it makes sense to grab one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 We definitely need some height, especially for the red zone. I would take Perriman or Funchess, the longer they sit out there the cheaper you can get them. Or draft Claypool, Pittman, etc. Definitely the most important need behind edge rusher imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 It's kind of nice that we really don't have room for Perriman as a top 3 wr on our roster. At this point we need wr/st players, and hopefully they kind find at least one of those in the draft because we still have plenty of room to improve at least 2 wr slots. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 At this point they would be spending money on a guy who will see the feild in a limited basis. I think drafting a guy makes way more sense. They can learn the position and have a package of plays each week. In the draft I can see them gping multiple ways. Claypool or Pittman big slot or x wrs in the short term redzone threat. Hamler as a possible weapon and future replacememt to beasley in the slot. Finally a Shaunalt or Bowden type who can be a playmaker and future outside wr. I think day 2 those are all strong possiblites and imo will have the most value when they are on the clock. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 I think your idea stems from a desire to take advantage of a buyer's market for WRs this offseason - with a great draft group. I think that is the reason Perriman and Roby Anderson are not yet signed. But, there is no room on the roster to sign another FA WR. Now, if they manage to trade Duke, Foster or even Beasley ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 No. more breshard perriman talk!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Like it or not, and there is no reason not to like it, the coaching staff saw something from Duke Williams late last season and I believe he will be in the mix when September comes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perk71 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 19 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: Like it or not, and there is no reason not to like it, the coaching staff saw something from Duke Williams late last season and I believe he will be in the mix when September comes. I hope he is still with the team next year. I just like how he plays when he's in the game. He has to earn it though and if he doesn't, that's how it goes. I trust in the process. Go Bills!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 At this point with all the current options the Bills have in the WR room.....draft one and call it quits. I would MUCH rather see a vet RB and or a edge guy added over another WR. There is only one ball on the field in play...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Draft a guy in the 2nd or 3rd rounds save a ton of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Steele Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Love me sum Duke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 If Perrimans price tag was so low someone would have signed him by now. He’s waiting for the best deal available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: If Perrimans price tag was so low someone would have signed him by now. He’s waiting for the best deal available Yeah. On a cheap deal he would be a no-brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Say we sign this guy, will this board still include threads attempting to justify the need for more receivers, or will it finally end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 5 hours ago, BillsRdue said: I'm at the point where I'm hoping we pick up Claypool or Pittman in the 2nd or 3rd or Peoples-Jones in the 3rd/4th if he drops that far. They will be on team friendly deals and develop and we will be set. Can't see giving another WR 6m+ for 3-4 years. We will need that money for 2021/2022 to resign our own, especially if Allen develops the way we hope. So you want to use our first pick on a guy that will only play in 4 WR sets and red zone? i love this WR class but I really hope we don’t use our first pick on a WR. Claypool, maybe, because he can play TE. I’d be ok taking a TE in rd 2-3, not WR unless the value is too great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 So sign a guy who has been a bust except for a few games last year. Sounds reasonable. .....or the Bills could draft a receiver in a talent heavy draft for less $. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 One year vet minimum. Take it or leave it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 It's been 8 hours. Has enough time has passed to start a new Perriman thread? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Weve been down this road before. Beane said no before when he could have had him for basically free. Highly unlikely he wants him now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 2 hours ago, NewEra said: So you want to use our first pick on a guy that will only play in 4 WR sets and red zone? i love this WR class but I really hope we don’t use our first pick on a WR. Claypool, maybe, because he can play TE. I’d be ok taking a TE in rd 2-3, not WR unless the value is too great. I think guys like Claypool, Mims, Pittman will be really solid pros. By the time they develop we have a solid #2 for when Brown or Beasley cost too much and we have to pay Allen or in case of injury he can step up and contribute. We need the depth and weapons for JA. Plus they would be an upgrade over Duke. It all depends on BPA in the 2nd/3rd. If a really good OT (Thomas, Jones) or RB drops (Dobbins, Swift, Akers) or we really want to trade up for someone we really want. (I trust Beane and McD know who that is) then address WR in the 3rd/4th. For the first time in a long time I trust the draft will fill needs and they will get their man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 My latest mock on fanspeak has: Rd 2 Cam Akers Rd 3 Antonio Gandy-Golden Rd 4 AJ Dillon Rd 7 Omar Bayless WR Arkansas State I'd rather have a rookie WR considering we're set WR and Perriman would be WR 4. Antonio would have time to get up to speed and be on a rookie deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Dopey said: My latest mock on fanspeak has: Rd 2 Cam Akers Rd 3 Antonio Gandy-Golden Rd 4 AJ Dillon Rd 7 Omar Bayless WR Arkansas State I'd rather have a rookie WR considering we're set WR and Perriman would be WR 4. Antonio would have time to get up to speed and be on a rookie deal. Gandy-Golden and AJ Dillon? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 7 hours ago, NewEra said: No. more breshard perriman talk!! Easy to read between the lines with your comment, Thanks ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 1 hour ago, DJB said: Weve been down this road before. Beane said no before when he could have had him for basically free. Highly unlikely he wants him now So they are just work out buddies ? Or Beane is doing Periman a solid ? lol no way he would want to play here unless we are trading Beasley or something amirite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, BillsRdue said: I think guys like Claypool, Mims, Pittman will be really solid pros. By the time they develop we have a solid #2 for when Brown or Beasley cost too much and we have to pay Allen or in case of injury he can step up and contribute. We need the depth and weapons for JA. Plus they would be an upgrade over Duke. It all depends on BPA in the 2nd/3rd. If a really good OT (Thomas, Jones) or RB drops (Dobbins, Swift, Akers) or we really want to trade up for someone we really want. (I trust Beane and McD know who that is) then address WR in the 3rd/4th. For the first time in a long time I trust the draft will fill needs and they will get their man. That doesn’t make sense. We are in win NOW mode. There shouldn’t be too many instances atm in which our GM makes a decision regarding our 1st pick and says “by the time they develop, we will have a solid #2 for when brown and Beasley move on”. Under no circumstance should that be said over the next 2 years. Win now win now win now. If mims is there, maybe we make an exception, but I doubt he’s there. Claypool can play TE. Makes sense. We should upgrade TE. Pittman. No thanks. OL please. Pass rusher please. RB please. Dugger please. If the BPA happens to be a 1st rd talent wr, so be it, but I think we’d be best served trading down in that situation or drafting one of the above positions. We should be using every asset we have on players that can help us this season. I don’t care about when John Brown leaves in 2 years. I want to win a SB within 2 years. That’s the only goal. Edited March 22, 2020 by NewEra 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Draft a player, you need to get younger behind Beasley, Brown and Diggs. Brown will be 30 this season and Cole 31, Diggs will turn 27 but even if all three players were under 25 you still need depth. I think one of the first two picks has to be a WR. IF this team suffers on injury to their top 3 they are right back to where they were last year with only 2 functional receivers. There also exists the need to have a player ready to step up if either Brown or Beasley begin to decline in the next 2 seasons. WR most definitely needs to be a top priority in the draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Perriman is 26 and has the size we like. Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 2 hours ago, billsfan89 said: Draft a player, you need to get younger behind Beasley, Brown and Diggs. Brown will be 30 this season and Cole 31, Diggs will turn 27 but even if all three players were under 25 you still need depth. I think one of the first two picks has to be a WR. IF this team suffers on injury to their top 3 they are right back to where they were last year with only 2 functional receivers. There also exists the need to have a player ready to step up if either Brown or Beasley begin to decline in the next 2 seasons. WR most definitely needs to be a top priority in the draft. The offense needs playmakers. They are set at the top 3 wr spots. They showed creativity to get every drop of production out of Mckenzie the last 2 years. If they put a dynamic athlete in that role while developing them into their system it makes a whole lot of sense to me. With Diggs the Bills are not tied to any type of Wr as a need. I do think the best weapon available at 54 needs to be the pick. Whether thats wr, te, or rb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Mat68 said: The offense needs playmakers. They are set at the top 3 wr spots. They showed creativity to get every drop of production out of Mckenzie the last 2 years. If they put a dynamic athlete in that role while developing them into their system it makes a whole lot of sense to me. With Diggs the Bills are not tied to any type of Wr as a need. I do think the best weapon available at 54 needs to be the pick. Whether thats wr, te, or rb. RB in my mind is not where they should go at pick 54, unless there is ungodly value there. I think you can find Singletary's backup in round 4 or 5. I think the WR core is much more pressing because Brown has an injury history and is older and Beasley is older. You are one injury away or a steep decline from Beasley away from being in a very lower mid-level offense. I do agree with you general sentiment that a weapon in the passing game at pick 54 is a good idea (or an Edge) but RB in my mind is the lowest priority in that assessment. I wouldn't hate it if a true first round talent fell but I would much rather get a WR to wait in the wings over the next season or two behind Brown and Beasley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Just now, billsfan89 said: RB in my mind is not where they should go at pick 54, unless there is ungodly value there. I think you can find Singletary's backup in round 4 or 5. I think the WR core is much more pressing because Brown has an injury history and is older and Beasley is older. You are one injury away or a steep decline from Beasley away from being in a very lower mid-level offense. I do agree with you general sentiment that a weapon in the passing game at pick 54 is a good idea (or an Edge) but RB in my mind is the lowest priority in that assessment. I wouldn't hate it if a true first round talent fell but I would much rather get a WR to wait in the wings over the next season or two behind Brown and Beasley. I dont see a rd 2 Rb as a back up. In my eyes its a co starter. Whoever can greater impact the offense is the direction. Whoever the #2 Rb is they are still going to be touching the ball 15 plus times a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 12 minutes ago, Mat68 said: I dont see a rd 2 Rb as a back up. In my eyes its a co starter. Whoever can greater impact the offense is the direction. Whoever the #2 Rb is they are still going to be touching the ball 15 plus times a game. I don't look at this team as really giving 15 touches to Singletary's backup. I think they want Singletary as the lead back and a RB drafted behind him would be a short yardage early down back, with Yeldon also sprinkling things in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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