34-78-83 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, The Jokeman said: I'm not hating the kid just like a lil more size is all. Look at the pictures available online of this guy. Do you think he's really 291 lbs? That's 315/320 all day long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, The Jokeman said: It's just we already have a smaller DT in Oliver, Not sure pairing him with another small guy wise. He can also play DE. Very versatile .  On Twitter , Sea fans are being very honest under Schefters tweet , saying he was arguably better and more consistent than Clowney and really upped his game this year. They're sad to see him go. They're a refreshingly honest fan base!  This looks like a perfect fit , can see him having a huge role on the DL. Playing DE on run downs as well as 3t 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff1954 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Given McBeane stated they weren’t going to be as active in free agency as last year, I’m thinking maybe they are close to finished. In that case, I see RB, corner, OL and kicker in some order in the draft. Wouldn’t be surprised if they used their other picks to draft those four. No idea who or in what order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:  Chess piece for McDermott This totally tells me if we draft a decent DE that we may have seen the last of Ol' 93 once cuts start coming..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, whatdrought said:  Did you want to resign Shaq, cause that's a pretty similar sentence that could be applied to Shaq. He's a DT. That was money that would have went to 97, me no run defense.  Shaq's money went to Addison, who had MORE SACKS and has only been a starter since he was 26 ,so really only played 2 more years than Shaq but is a much better player. I can't wait until we run right over Shaq and the Fins! Edited March 18, 2020 by Locomark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 This is so effing Beane and I love it. 20 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: He can also play DE. Very versatile .  On Twitter , Sea fans are being very honest under Schefters tweet , saying he was arguably better and more consistent than Clowney and really upped his game this year. They're sad to see him go. They're a refreshingly honest fan base!  This looks like a perfect fit , can see him having a huge role on the DL. Playing DE on run downs as well as 3t  I live in Seattle and I hear so much national hate for the fan base. Seems off the mark to me. I've been impressed with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, NickelCity said: I live in Seattle and I hear so much national hate for the fan base. Seems off the mark to me. I've been impressed with them. I agree. They seem better than many fan bases to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Just now, MJS said: I agree. They seem better than many fan bases to me. Â On the flip side, I rarely hear disdain for broncos fans and they are THE WORST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, NickelCity said: Â On the flip side, I rarely hear disdain for broncos fans and they are THE WORST. I lived in Colorado a long time and never had a problem with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, MJS said: I lived in Colorado a long time and never had a problem with them. Â Same here. Lived in Denver for years. I think they're almost incapable of questioning anything their front office does. I dunno, maybe I'm still holding the Tebow years against them. Or maybe it's my in laws... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 2 hours ago, thebandit27 said: 2 missed tackles in 440 snaps for Carolina in 2019...I’m picking up on a theme here The Bills like guys that played in Carolina? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 I wonder if this means they see Jefferson more as a DE than a DT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 Â 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 53 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:  basically replaced Phillips and Shaq with Jefferson and Butler, but for half the combined price. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, MJS said: I wonder if this means they see Jefferson more as a DE than a DT. Â I think so. Â I think we only keep 3 defensive ends and then Jefferson rotates... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 An upgrade over Jordan Phillips at a better price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, whatdrought said: Seems as if Beane and McD believe they process is now self supporting. I think they like these types actually. It’s the lazy, apathetic, late for meetings types they don’t like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJC25 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Star oliver butler jefferson harry when he gets healthy we are stout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Think his versatility will be perfect for the Bills scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 "come to buffalo to be the best version of yourself" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: twitter and the board And you TRUST those sources??? 2 hours ago, Rubes said: Â And the offense returns everybody with a significant upgrade at WR1 and a full year together in the same system. Stop it! My trousers are already tight! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, blacklabel said: I remember when Butler was drafted and there was some buzz that he was a first round steal. I don't think he's quite been that but he'll fit in fine with the DL rotation.  I love how almost every time they add to the DL a bunch of people on here are like, "That's it for Murphy! He done, snip snip muthatrucka, you cut!" He ain't an All-Pro but cutting him just creates another hole to fill. I'm also still unsure of the expectations some people have. Did they expect him to come in and rack up 15 sacks? Hell, can any of their DL rack up 15 sacks given that they all get somewhere between 40 and 60% of the snaps? This team really isn't about two or three superstar players that carry the rest of the crew, they're all about balance and having a well-rounded group that does their job and works to elevate each other. I just gotta laugh a bit when people lose it because Player A got $10 million a year but only got four or five sacks. I mean, these guys do get paid for more than just their on field performance. How about I expected him to be able to hold the edge without constantly being pulled inside like it says "Kelsay" on his back? If you don't do much in the pass rush and you're unreliable in run D, habitually allowing running backs get around you for big gains down the sideline...it's no surprise that fans are hoping for an upgrade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Bray Wyatt said: Too much dl now? We cutting someone it would seem Interior D-linemen now include Vernon Butler, Star Lotulelei, Harrison Phillips, Ed Oliver, Quinton Jefferson and Vincent Taylor.  Corey Liuget is an unrestricted free agent. It doesn't seem likely to me that the Bills will attempt to re-sign him. It's possible the Bills will carry 5 interior linemen. They won't carry 6. Vincent Taylor is the obvious odd m an out. That leaves them with some versatility on the inside. Harrison Phillips is a natural 1 tech, but he is diversifying some and can play some three tech too.  I suspect Quinton Jefferson is a natural 3 tech, but It wouldn't shock me if he could play DE on run downs. He could also play 5 tech if Sean and Les Frazier wanted to run a little 3-4 to really throw a curve at the opposition. Buffalo can go with a jumbo D-line and still be fairly athletic, or they can go with lightening quick penetrators across the from, or a little of both.  Defensive ends now are Jerry Hughes, Darryll Johnson, Mike Love, Trent Murphy, Jonathon Woodard (reserve future contract) and Mario Addison. That's 6 also. Jonathon Woodard probably doesn't have a ghost of a chance to make the roster. The odds aren't good for Mike Love's future either. Beyond those 2 easy cuts, we'll have to see what happens in the draft before speculating on Trent Murphy. If Buffalo picks up an edge rusher in the second or third round, Murphy might be a goner. Edited March 18, 2020 by TigerJ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 24 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Â this is the "under the radar" guy I've been waiting to see signed! expect him to have 5 sacks this year...in a rotation. outstanding work by the Wizard yet again! RB is Definately on the table at pick 54 now. Damn I love Beane! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 29 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: basically replaced Phillips and Shaq with Jefferson and Butler, but for half the combined price. I'd say we replaced Phillips and Shaq with Jefferson and Addison. Butler is a stout 1 Tech to rotate with Star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Holy crap, 4 new defensive players who played for Carolina. Â If you're tired of hearing jokes about signing players who played for Carolina, I have some bad news for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: Cut Murphy. Sign Clowney. Be done with it. Go offense in draft. And prepare to be one of the top favorites to win the AFC.  With the moves we've made this week I don't think we can afford a record breaking contract for Clowney. I think Beane allowed himself one big splash move in free agency and the rest of our signings will be mid tier or lower. The plan appears to be to rotate Hughes, Addison, Jefferson, a draft pick and possibly Murphy. I believe we now have less than $40 million in cap space and extensions for White, Dawkins, Milano, and Edmunds are right around the corner - not to mention Allen if he takes the next step. I don't know how Clowney fits in. Edited March 18, 2020 by HappyDays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Reks Ryan said: Hope you’re right.  I’m a big fan of Phillips, so it’s meant as a compliment  Jefferson is a god run defender, Phillips wasa liability versus the run. 17 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: this is the "under the radar" guy I've been waiting to see signed! expect him to have 5 sacks this year...in a rotation. outstanding work by the Wizard yet again! RB is Definately on the table at pick 54 now. Damn I love Beane!  Can get an RB in the 5th or 6th round..no need to waste a 2nd on one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Kick ass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Â Jefferson is a god run defender, Phillips wasa liability versus the run. Â Can get an RB in the 5th or 6th round..no need to waste a 2nd on one. not a waste if a difference maker is available. not a fan of a 1st round RB, but in the 2nd or beyond? get it. With the addition of a #1 WR, I say another playmaker or OT is top of the order. and no OT worthy of that pick is gonna be there.jmo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 3 hours ago, Bray Wyatt said: Too much dl now?  Said no one, ever..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Â I'm just going to assume from now on that every mid-level contract we sign is structured like this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Seems similar to Shaq. A bust his first few years in the league than kind of came to life his contract year. This deal is much more team friendly than Shaq's though, so I like the move.  Pretty sure the Panthers had one of the worst run defenses in the league last year though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Seattle fans seemed to really like him and think he’s a sizable loss for them. Nice under the radar signing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Exact opposite of Jefferson. Carolina fans hated him.  But I’m a fan of giving a talented player a second chance in a new situation.  Definitely seems a little high but oh well.  Hopefully, he is Jordan Phillips 2.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) Not going to lie, never heard of him. But Seahawks fans have very positive things to say. Seems like a great signing. Still would like to see the bills bring in a young DE or OLB day 2 of the draft Edited March 18, 2020 by Process 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 37 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: this is the "under the radar" guy I've been waiting to see signed! expect him to have 5 sacks this year...in a rotation. outstanding work by the Wizard yet again! RB is Definately on the table at pick 54 now. Damn I love Beane! Definitely check out the film study on Jefferson. Not long but very informative. He’s quality inside & Out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Exact opposite of Jefferson. Carolina fans hated him.  But I’m a fan of giving a talented player a second chance in a new situation.  Definitely seems a little high but oh well.  Hopefully, he is Jordan Phillips 2.0. Based on what I've read on both, makes no sense that he got more money than Jefferson. The Jefferson signing seems like a steal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 I wonder how he is recovering from his broken foot in the playoff game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Just now, Chandler#81 said: Definitely check out the film study on Jefferson. Not long but very informative. He’s quality inside & Out. very much so a McD guy. he's Everywhere on that line! awesome signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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