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On a Good Note.....  NO CeeDee Lamb going to AZ

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40 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

If the Bills trade for Slay or Ngaekou at thos point they will be doing the exact opposite of what they say they build on. Draft, Develop, keep and build a team not just a collection of talent.

I can't see Ngakoue as he wants entirely too much $$$. Slay on the other hand you could probably get for $6,000,000-$8,000,000 less per season on a 3 year deal and have the best Secondary in the NFL by a wide margin. We would have a legitimate 2-3 year window with the way Beane has managed the cap and drafted. I'm not saying we need this to happen, but if it does I'm good with it. 

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4 hours ago, inaugural balls said:

 

Beane is a bat

That’s it! Brandon’s new name. ‘I’m Batman’

3 hours ago, Heitz said:

 

'Bout 10 PM we'll throw up the Bean Bat Signal and the Bills spending begins...

 

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He’s currently in disguise as Brandon Wayne, Millionaire

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1 hour ago, Stank_Nasty said:

“Big need” is a bit excessive IMO 

 

it could be upgraded but our DB’s and the depth is just fine if this is what they go forward with. 


I guess if you’re that confident with Norman, maybe so. But besides him they have Wallace and T. Johnson. They could use an upgrade at corner still. 

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22 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said:


agreed. He’s pretty much a replacement for Foster. But I suspect they would battle it out in training camp. 
 

not sure where beloved duke Williams fits though. 

Likely on the practice squad till someone gets hurt. 

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13 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:

If the Bills trade for Slay or Ngaekou at thos point they will be doing the exact opposite of what they say they build on. Draft, Develop, keep and build a team not just a collection of talent.

That's not true.  Their core are draft picks: White, Allen, Edmunds, Oliver, Dawkins, Milano, Ford, Singletary, Knox are all draftees. There are other draftees and UDFA who contribute: Wallace, Neal, Foster, Johnson among them.  Every team will have a lot of Free Agents.  The league is designed for turnover.  When teams are close they go for big fish.  The Bills are close.  And you notice most deals are two years or can be shredded after two years.  Matches up with end of Allen's 5th year.

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10 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

RUMOR ALERT! as of 10:29pm last night.

 

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My opinion of this player is that he is overrated and thrives mostly on volume.   Eckeler was usually the short man in the time share 75/25, from my understanding (FFB) and MG's yard per carry is nothing special.

Devin will likely be the lead back going forward.  I am not sure if the Bills need a scat back home run hitter or a short yardage power back, but I do not believe that the Bills should pay a high priced guy who is not actually that special.   MG is not a prime of career Shady, by a long shot.  

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6 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Slay to the Eagles.

Good move for Philly who had a need at CB.

22 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

RUMOR ALERT! as of 10:29pm last night.

 

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As long as we don't overpay I'm good with Gordon. He is a quality RB who can also catch the ball out of the backfield. 

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The thing about Gordon IMO is that it would cost true spending cash in a Draft where there are legit Day 1 starters (not that the Bills need a workhorse back) in the first 2-3 Rounds. If the Bills really think a dynamic back and a CB are a need, then using the remaining Cap spending on a CB makes more sense given the depth at RB in the Draft. This would be one of those few decisions I don't agree with Beane and his team on, but as I've said before - this is the first time in over 20 years I can say I fully trust the Front Office to do their job well. 

 

If McBeane et. al. think this is a good way to spend the money, I'm all in. 

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I thought this could be added in this thread, here's Spotrac's continuing list of Free Agents and their signings and contracts:

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/

 

Edit: there are some terrific players still left in FA, one that intrigues me would be Eric Ebron, only 26 (or 27 depending on where you look) and has shown better productivity than I gave him credit for after looking at his last few years. Yes, it was much improved when in Indy with Luck, but tell me a receiver that doesn't get better with a good to great QB. 

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9 hours ago, GG said:

None of the recent FAs have signed longer than 3 year deals.  Most are on 2 year deals.  Beane has excelled in adding help on 1yr prove it contracts and then move on 

 

Star and Morse are really the anomalies. 

Beane is saving cap space because he knows Allen and Edmunds contracts will need to be re-upped in 2 years.  Plus he'll have Tre's new contract on the books and likely Dawkin's and/or Milano's.  JMO

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11 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

I guess..... the guy has averaged over 3.9 ypc ONCE in his 5 years. Yikes. 

Oh, yeah, I'm talking $4,000,000-$5,000,000 range tops. No way in Hades I give him more than that. He's a solid receiving option though and would be a nice compliment to Singletary imo. When he comes in the game a defense wouldn't be able to just stack the box as they did with Gore.  

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Melvin Gordon is extremely overrated, and would likely cost over $10 million per year.

Just like Jadeveon Clowney, he is one that I would definitely pass on, unless we can somehow get him to take half of what he's looking for.

 

This is the point of free agency where smart GMs can often get players (who were disappointed in their markets) to take team-friendly/one-year prove-it deals.  I'm not sure Gordon or Clowney will ever get down to a worthwhile price range, but there may be some other guys on the market who can contribute.

 

Personally, I would really like another versatile CB who can compete with Levi Wallace and Josh Norman on the outside, but also help in the slot with Taron Johnson's injury history.

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25 minutes ago, DCbillsfan said:

Beane is saving cap space because he knows Allen and Edmunds contracts will need to be re-upped in 2 years.  Plus he'll have Tre's new contract on the books and likely Dawkin's and/or Milano's.  JMO

a lot will change in 2 years...cap will increase...the FAs signed were for 2 years...most likely those players along with Hyde, Poyer, Hughes and Murphy will be gone...There will be plenty of space to sign who they want when time comes

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10 minutes ago, nucci said:

a lot will change in 2 years...cap will increase...the FAs signed were for 2 years...most likely those players along with Hyde, Poyer, Hughes and Murphy will be gone...There will be plenty of space to sign who they want when time comes

Agree there is a 2 year window to spend on UFAs and make a run, before role players will have to transition to young rookie contracts.  SPEND to make that run and allow the flexibility for some of those contracts to come off to sign the CORE.  So the draft at this point is building the depth so we wont have the holes in UFA as some of our players leave because of Cap management.  That is also when we turn into the Ravens and Patriots with banking compensatory picks.

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I'm curious what everyone around here thinks about possibly taking a shot at Xavier Rhodes or Trumaine Johnson?

Like Josh Norman, both guys have struggled mightily over the past few years.  But maybe our defensive coaches/system could rejuvenate their careers, especially if we could do a one-year prove-it deal.

 

I think we already have one of the best secondaries in the NFL.  

But I went into the offseason thinking we need 4 guys capable of playing the outside (we only had 3 last year).  I would prefer that at least one of those CBs also be able to slide into the slot in case of another Taron Johnson injury.

 

 

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28 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

That’s still not accounting for Jefferson or Matakevich. There may be more still.

 

Or the rookie pool.  Not having a 1st this year will help a bit :)

 

Oops it does include $5 million for the rookies.

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They have plenty of money left.  Im curious to see if now Buffalo will circle back to one of the bigger names still available.  I dont expected but also wouldnt be suprised if they did.  With Brady out of New England the beleif in Buffalo must be they are in a prime position to take over the division.  Making another bold move could happen.

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3 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

They have plenty of money left.  Im curious to see if now Buffalo will circle back to one of the bigger names still available.  I dont expected but also wouldnt be suprised if they did.  With Brady out of New England the beleif in Buffalo must be they are in a prime position to take over the division.  Making another bold move could happen.

Exactly.  They reworked contracts to help this year and next, so they can still land a big name if they wanted to and work the contract specifically to fit future cap.  It may be lean this year, but everything opens next year, beautifully.  Beane has done a tremendous job thus far.  

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3 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

For those of us still sludging through a work day having some Bills rumors or reports would make the day go by quicker.

Not really much of a rumor, but TB is being floated as one of a few teams sniffing around Todd G.  Makes sense given his blocking and receiving ability.  

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2 minutes ago, DFT said:

Not really much of a rumor, but TB is being floated as one of a few teams sniffing around Todd G.  Makes sense given his blocking and receiving ability.  

Ya saw that.  I think with Arians age, Bradys age they are going all in for this year and maybe next.  That contract and his knee though will be hard to fit anywhere.  

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Do we have enough money left to bring one more solid guy ?

i saw 32M on the thread but i’m concerned about the extensions that will come like Tre, Edmunds or J.A. (if he step up on his game till the end of his rookie contract)

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