Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 4 hours ago, Turk71 said: What is a sizeable contract? Same idea as those really big cheques they give to golf tournament and lottery winners. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBillsFan Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Kelvin Benjamin... if any player pays him more than 10 mil a year they are in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 9 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: I think someone is definitely going to overpay for his services Hopefully not Buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, jeremy2020 said: Yannick Ngakoue This is my thought. A guy who is consistently tweeting about his "worth" or whatever and saying he's seeking $22,000,000 per season? Yeah, not paying that for 8 sacks a season. Edited February 25, 2020 by H2o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 9 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: I think someone is definitely going to overpay for his services Agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Arik Armstead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 hour ago, BigBillsFan said: Kelvin Benjamin... if any player pays him more than 10 mil a year they are in trouble. If any player pays him anything at all that would make me question the circumstances. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Good question. My answer last year was Tyrell Williams. Paid like a top 20 receiver but produces like a middle of the road number 2 wideout. While I think Ngakoue will get paid a lot whether by the Jags or someone else, he is a guy I think you can solidly expect to get 8-10 sacks. He isn't a top flight defensive end, he can't do all the things Clowney can do in the run game and dropping into coverage, disguising blitzes.... but he does give you sack production. I'd rather look at the guys who are not giving you any serious production. I think Jamie Collins has shown once he is a very specific scheme fit who looked lost outside New England so he would be on my list. That said, my vote is for Derrick Henry. If he stays in Tennessee I can see him having a good year in 2020. If he goes elsewhere to a different scheme I think he will be massively overpaid and revert to his early career lack of production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 ...AJ Green...if the Bengals tag him at $18.5 mil, it means he gets $9.25 mil for the 8 games he's healthy and $9.25 mil vacation pay...….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny3000 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 10 hours ago, RocCityRoller said: Hunter Henry: Glass jaw availability and Charles Clay production So Charles Clay? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 AJ Green. Too expensive, and too often injured. I don’t get the love. He was great, but not anymore. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nester Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 AJ Green and Tom Brady 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 9 hours ago, Turk71 said: What is a sizeable contract? Perriman is only 26, 6'2" 215 with 4.24 elite speed. That kind of size and speed is very rare and being 26 I think he is finally showing his talent and still has tremendous upside, if you watch his tape from this year he showed it. If he is paid like a slam dunk #1 wr (10 million plus) then I would agree he is a risk of not delivering. If he is paid as a yet unproven commodity with tremendous upside(5 to 8 mil) I think he is well worth the risk. I just think the sample size of him playing well is really small. 3 teams in 4 years doesn't look particularly promising either. 95 catches in 195 targets... If I'm his agent i measure by guaranteed money and convince him to take the highest one, i dont know that he gets another chance if he doesn't do well on this deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 16 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Tom Brady If he goes anywhere other than NE, I think he will be good, but not the same we've seen in recent years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnus00 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Clowney... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 20 hours ago, jeremy2020 said: Yannick Ngakoe Came here to say this. He's going to get elite money and he just isn't elite. 1 minute ago, somnus00 said: Clowney... That was my 2nd answer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnus00 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, MJS said: Came here to say this. He's going to get elite money and he just isn't elite. That was my 2nd answer. 6 seasons, 32 sacks. Highest sack number was 9.5. He wants top 5 money? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 56 minutes ago, somnus00 said: 6 seasons, 32 sacks. Highest sack number was 9.5. He wants top 5 money? He's been pretty clear about what he feels on his own self worth (and I'd say he's not just looking for top 5...he wants to be #1). I knew he had 8 sacks, but I didn't know that had him tied for 33rd in the league last season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 18 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said: Or any other NE free agent defender that chooseS to sign elsewhere. I am wondering what your opinions are of LaAdrian Waddle the OT that we picked up and put on IR Do you think he has talent or does he fall into this catagory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Most of them unless they sign with the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 7 hours ago, Nester said: Tom Brady ...not sure what he expects to achieve with his "Clown Show"......and eff this "I can and still want to compete"....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Any of the DEs, none put up consistent sack numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 hour ago, somnus00 said: Clowney... ...I believe the quote was he wants to "reset the market".......with Mack type money being mentioned......um, er, uh, oh, well ...ok.......good luck............ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: I guess, if your just looking at the stat sheet. Watch him play.... Something you haven't done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: I am wondering what your opinions are of LaAdrian Waddle the OT that we picked up and put on IR Do you think he has talent or does he fall into this catagory? if i'm not mistaken nate solder has been a disappointment since signing a huge deal in NY. then didnt they fill his spot with trent brown? and if i'm not mistaken browns play earned him a massive deal with the raiders just to get demoted from his LT spot by first portion of this last season. truly the most elite of coaching up in NE, IMO. they literally get the very best out of their guys. guys that seem to usually be average contributors elsewhere. waddle I think is solid depth. nothing more. his contract and play say as much. Edited February 26, 2020 by Stank_Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 On 2/24/2020 at 5:43 PM, Seoulofstone said: In terms of overpaid contract in return for disastrous output there lots of QBs who could be risky. Any free agent qb is risky or he’d be with his old team 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 20 hours ago, RocCityRoller said: As for Phillips nothing wrong with a transitional tag on a DT that played in 16 games, starter in 9 (per NFL.com), had 9.5 sacks and will get paid by someone. It's a 50-50 gamble that he would be top 10 money after FA, but bluff a bit Buffalo. When you transition tag a DT with 9.5 sacks, ears perk up a bit. Boost the value of a guy about to walk away for nothing. Should add to a comp pick at worst if it's played right. J Phillips is the model Transition tag player IMO. Top 10 salary when flush with cash for another one year/ prove it contract (motivation if he is on the Bills), and will get compensation if another team outbids the Bills. Buffalo is woeful in managing this aspect of the cap. From Sporting news (2019) Non-exclusive tags are most commonly used. It means a team will pay the tagged player no less than the average of the five highest salaries at the player’s position, or 120 percent of the player’s cap number from the previous season, whichever is greater. The player is allowed to negotiate with other teams, but his current team can match any offer sheet. If a player's current team declines to match another team's offer, it will be awarded two first-round draft picks as compensation. Transition tags pay a player the average of the 10 highest-paid players at his position. A tagged player is allowed to negotiate with other teams. The player’s current team can match any offer given to a transition-tagged player, but the team will not be given compensation if it decides not to match. you lose the comp pick since you had control and chose to pass, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 On 2/24/2020 at 7:00 PM, HOUSE said: Marcel Dareus If anyone pays him big money this will be the answer- but I doubt he gets it 3 hours ago, somnus00 said: Clowney... I wonder if he remains motivated- I doubt it but I have very little reason for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Taysom Hill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, ScottLaw said: Clowney? The dudes a game changer. Overall better player than Ngakoue. Hes going to get paid because teams know this. They watchand study him play. They don't just check the stat sheet. ... We're talking about Ngakoue, not clowney. Message boards aren't that hard. Edited February 26, 2020 by jeremy2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 2 hours ago, stuvian said: Taysom Hill Good answer if there’s a team out there that thinks he’s the answer. I can’t believe that there is though. It just takes one I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 On 2/25/2020 at 7:22 PM, NoSaint said: you lose the comp pick since you had control and chose to pass, I believe. you are correct on a transitional tag, it's only a right of first refusal Other tags are different. I stand corrected on the transitional part. I will be interested in seeing what his market rate is, and if it would be worth it to match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: you are correct on a transitional tag, it's only a right of first refusal Other tags are different. I stand corrected on the transitional part. I will be interested in seeing what his market rate is, and if it would be worth it to match. but also takes him out of the comp pick formula on top of that. Given we are likely buyers in free agency that’s likely not a huge deal though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 1 minute ago, NoSaint said: but also takes him out of the comp pick formula on top of that. Given we are likely buyers in free agency that’s likely not a huge deal though. It does, think I acknowledged that. But I would like a right of first refusal if an offer is manageable. J Phillips found a fit here, and I'd like a chance to keep him without overvaluing his market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 1 hour ago, RocCityRoller said: It does, think I acknowledged that. But I would like a right of first refusal if an offer is manageable. J Phillips found a fit here, and I'd like a chance to keep him without overvaluing his market. Got it- thought you were saying they wouldn’t get a pick like the franchise tag, not the effect on the comp pick formula 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 On 2/24/2020 at 9:35 PM, Ethan in Portland said: I agree. He is a solid WR but not a gamebreaker. He is not Julio, Hopkins, AJ, or AB. Hell I'm not even sure he is Smith-Schuster level. He's probably a 8-12 ranking type of player who will get paid like he is top 3. At this Point sign me up for an expensive 3 year deal if it needs done, And draft one in the 1st 2 rounds is well I'm sick of incompetence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Dante Fowler Jr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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