Tipster19 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I would, the guy could be the offensive game changer that the Bills are looking for. He’s entering his last year of his rookie contract and the Lions will have to make a decision on him sooner or later. Being a Belichick disciple I would think that Patricia isn’t looking to lock up a ton of money on a WR. Pay him now and they might just be willing to give him up. The guy has been in the league and is ready to ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) Yes. In a heartbeat. Oh wait, he’s on the last year of his deal? Then maybe a 2nd. I don’t believe in giving up high picks and then also having to give out a huge contract. Edited February 12, 2020 by Virgil 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijah Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 No. Draft offers more youth, some players seemingly with more talent, and a lot less money. The first round pick for X questions just don’t make much sense, especially with the WR depth this year. 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, elijah said: No. Draft offers more youth, some players seemingly with more talent, and a lot less money. The first round pick for X questions just don’t make much sense, especially with the WR depth this year. Golliday is better than anyone in this draft and it’s not even close. He’s the speed, big bodied guy everyone says we need 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 So he is not on the block? A second if the right contract can be agreed upon up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
End The Drought Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 We need to stop with these threads 4 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijah Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Why are you concerned about money? Edmunds, Milano, Dawkins, Josh, Tre, Poyer, etc. are all guys that are going to need to get paid soon. Adding Golladay to the list doesn’t help, he expires after this season. The cap space is nice right now but it doesn’t last forever. We have a young core with most of our important players on their rookie contracts, these rookie contracts don’t last forever. Give me a number one who we have cost controlled for 4 years, not a number one with one year left and a $15M+ contract coming. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, End The Drought said: We need to stop with these threads Magic 8 ball says: Not happening, but you have Freedom of Choice 3 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, elijah said: No. Draft offers more youth, some players seemingly with more talent, and a lot less money. The first round pick for X questions just don’t make much sense, especially with the WR depth this year. But draft also doesn't guarantee Pro level success. Golliday has already proven he can play in the league at a high level, the players in the draft have not. As for your list in the other post, only Tre is in line for a Big deal soon, the rest haven't done anything yet to deserve deals that could break the bank, even Josh hasn't hit that level yet. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 for our pick in the bottom portion of the 1st round? yes. without hesitation... not only is consistently very good, he routinely makes circus catches for his qb. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 12 minutes ago, elijah said: No. Draft offers more youth, some players seemingly with more talent, and a lot less money. The first round pick for X questions just don’t make much sense, especially with the WR depth this year. I don’t know how much more talented some of these draft wrs are than KG. He’s really good and he’s proven. Especially given the way this staff has drafted at wr. but you’re dead on about the money. He is going to get paid big real soon. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 12 minutes ago, End The Drought said: We need to stop with these threads Agreed but it unfortunately won't happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 15 minutes ago, Virgil said: Golliday is better than anyone in this draft and it’s not even close. He’s the speed, big bodied guy everyone says we need He’s more known. Not necessarily better... he was a third round pick himself, which kinda proves the craziness of WR drafting. I wouldn’t trade a 1st straight up as this is such a good class. Maybe a 1 for him and a 3rd. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Yes. Is in the prime of his career, and is coming off of back to back 1,000 yard season. Huge catch radius, and a legitimate deep threat to go with his size 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 He's good. Why would the Lions want to move him? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCuse Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 24 minutes ago, End The Drought said: We need to stop with these threads Seriously, unless there's a legit rumor someone is trade bait or a possible cut, it's just pointless. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Yes 100% he's one of my favorite wideouts in the league 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 If you don’t like the thread then ignore it. The negative comments about posting on a public message serve no purpose. Unbelievable how miserable some people are! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 37 minutes ago, Tipster19 said: I would, the guy could be the offensive game changer that the Bills are looking for. He’s entering his last year of his rookie contract and the Lions will have to make a decision on him sooner or later. Being a Belichick disciple I would think that Patricia isn’t looking to lock up a ton of money on a WR. Pay him now and they might just be willing to give him up. The guy has been in the league and is ready to ball. Nope Will cost a nice new Contract on top of the 1st. You say 2nd and I would be on board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 32 minutes ago, Tipster19 said: I would, the guy could be the offensive game changer that the Bills are looking for. He’s entering his last year of his rookie contract and the Lions will have to make a decision on him sooner or later. Being a Belichick disciple I would think that Patricia isn’t looking to lock up a ton of money on a WR. Pay him now and they might just be willing to give him up. The guy has been in the league and is ready to ball. Being a coach with a 9-22 record in 2 years, who was brought in to take a 2x 9-7 team to the next level, I would think that " WWBelichick do?" on a perennially championship winning roster, is probably the last thing on Patricia's mind. When you take over a 9-7 team with its "franchise boy" QB in place and a recent playoff appearance, 6-10 then 3-12 are not expected to be on the menu. He has to be feeling the seat-heater warming up in his chair. That being the case, what exactly would be Patricia's motivation to move the Lions best WR of the last 2 seasons, who will be dirt-cheap for 1 more year? I mean, sure, if he were available for that I'd take him. But why would he be available? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 33 minutes ago, End The Drought said: We need to stop with these threads Were it another get A.J. Green thread, you'd have a case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 This is a WR rich draft. Why give up draft choices when you can draft 2-4 WR's in this draft alone and let them develop with Allen? Give up a 1st round pick AND pay Golliday? Beyond stupid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 "Trading draft picks for guys that are due to be paid is an excellent way to build a consistent winner." -Dan Snyder 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, njbuff said: This is a WR rich draft. Why give up draft choices when you can draft 2-4 WR's in this draft alone and let them develop with Allen? Give up a 1st round pick AND pay Golliday? Beyond stupid. Because one is proven, while the other 2-4 aren't and would need time to develop into what the other one already is, and they would have to develop along with a QB that still needs to develop himself...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soflabillsfan1 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 12 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Why are you worried about things 3-4 years down the road? Whats more important a Super Bowl victory or cap space? I was gonna say. Guy is worried about some people we don't have to pay for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijah Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Why are you worried about things 3-4 years down the road? Whats more important a Super Bowl victory or cap space? Last time we valued a super bowl victory over future cap space, we went 8-8 and 7-9 and we’re left in cap hell that set the franchise back 2 years and took 3 years to fully clean up. Super bowls are nice and the ultimate goal, but we have a staff that’s valuing sustainability and success at the same time. They’re showing you can do both by keeping the long-term cap space in the plans, let’s get on board as fans instead of writing it off. Do we want to look like the Rams, fall just short in one year and then completely come apart after, or the Patriots who get it done year in and year out? I dont know about you, but I think one of these are a clear and obvious choice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Why are you worried about things 3-4 years down the road? Whats more important a Super Bowl victory or cap space? The Bills are building a team that can win consistently for years to come, not throwing everything in for a single year that might or might not work out, only to watch the team dissolve. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Golloday is a legit top 10 receiver in the league who has not peaked yet. I would be thrilled to get him for a first. That said, Detroit is going to extend him and this is all just for fun. He’s the best player on their whole team. They have the money to extend Slay and Golloday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 I bet not too many would have objected too loudly when Antonio Brown was once a remote possibility and that guy was demanding ALL the money. Is it inconceivable of working out a contract with Golliday BEFORE you finalize the trade? It happens all the time, I just don’t get some of the people’s thinking around here. It’s called doing your due diligence and as far as I can tell Beane is pretty good at it. Another aspect that I like about Golliday is that he would be coming from playing with a big arm QB to another big arm QB in Josh Allen. If the Lions would do it then this would be a no brained. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijah Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Tipster19 said: I bet not too many would have objected too loudly when Antonio Brown was once a remote possibility and that guy was demanding ALL the money. That guy was also traded for a 3rd and 5th round pick, not a 1st rounder. EDIT: That guy was also consistently a top 3 player at his position and probably a first ballot hall of famer if he didn’t tear his career apart this past year, 2 completely different levels of talent. Edited February 12, 2020 by elijah 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 57 minutes ago, Virgil said: Golliday is better than anyone in this draft and it’s not even close. He’s the speed, big bodied guy everyone says we need say it to Jerry Jeudy’s face ! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, elijah said: Last time we valued a super bowl victory over future cap space, we went 8-8 and 7-9 and we’re left in cap hell that set the franchise back 2 years and took 3 years to fully clean up. Super bowls are nice and the ultimate goal, but we have a staff that’s valuing sustainability and success at the same time. They’re showing you can do both by keeping the long-term cap space in the plans, let’s get on board as fans instead of writing it off. Do we want to look like the Rams, fall just short in one year and then completely come apart after, or the Patriots who get it done year in and year out? I dont know about you, but I think one of these are a clear and obvious choice. The reason for the Patriots success (other then cheating) has been having one of the greatest HCs in the game to go with possibly the greatest QB to play the game who was willing to play on cheaper deals to keep the cap hits down. They also were able to get big name FAs to sign cheaper there because they gave them the best chance at a SB win. It really helps when your able to get some of the best players come to you on affordable deals instead of having to grossly overpay mediocre guys to play for you. Also let's not go too overboard with the Bills way of doing things yet, so far it's gotten them a 'one and done' playoff appearance in a weak year...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 25 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Why are you worried about things 3-4 years down the road? Whats more important a Super Bowl victory or cap space? All these - we dont have the cap space, what about player xyz, build via the draft talkers must just love mediocrity. Lets do our best to just keep our own and maintain a decent team. We can have some excitement bouncing around from 6-10 to 10-6. Good times. This is the NFL. Teams can get out of deals so easily and manipulate the cap and rosters. You have to go all in when you think you have a window to win. If the Bills are not at that point yet then they are in trouble. The next 3-4 years they have a shot to be good. You worry about that now and adjust as needed when you need to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 17 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: Because one is proven, while the other 2-4 aren't and would need time to develop into what the other one already is, and they would have to develop along with a QB that still needs to develop himself...... Money is going to be needed to invest elsewhere. WR's can develop quicker in today's NFL and I am fine with drafting WR's from this draft. These kids are talented enough to contribute RIGHT AWAY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Also it's Golladay fyi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 16 minutes ago, Utah John said: The Bills are building a team that can win consistently for years to come, not throwing everything in for a single year that might or might not work out, only to watch the team dissolve. Why do people look at obtaining a 25-26 year old proven player as a one year thing? If the Bills can sign any elite player in his prime that is for the long term. We have the money to do both. Supplement this roster with more elite talent, keep our own and draft for the future. It is possible to do it all with the current state of our roster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Also it's Golladay fyi Why do you think you’re better than everyone? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 No, we need to continue building through the draft and free agency. We need that first pick to add a player that will develop with Josh for the next several years. Trading a pick away for a player that will demand a big pay day next year is a bad move on my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Why do you think you’re better than everyone? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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