cd1 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 How many NFL players would not qualify for a passport? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 5 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: I spoke with all three, they are not happy. On the other hand, if the fan base was really buying tickets like crazy, would they have ever moved any games to begin with? Jags will move- it is just a matter of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) Wait until they move to London full time and the owner finds out how hard it will be to attract F/A and how many Jags rookies will be counting the days until they achieve UFA status Edited February 4, 2020 by LabattBlue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 good move for jax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) Interesting considering I argued with someone that the Jags were looking at a permanent move at some point. So now 1/4 of their home games are away. How many does it take for me to start rubbing the other persons face in it that Khan has "no intention to move the team"? Edited February 4, 2020 by The Wiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 6 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: its funny, i have debated with Bills folks for the last 3 years on the Fan Advisory Board..just make the preseason games free and divide whatever my total ticket price is by 8(allowing for the variable pricing)...i mean thats how i look at it anyway. If my total cost is $800, i just say its $100/game. That way my face is higher for every game as well, maybe i get more back on the games i need to sell. They can never give me a good answer why they dont do this . I bet it has something to do with revenue sharing and accounting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 5 hours ago, corta765 said: To me it is the possible death knell to the Jags in Jax. As is I could see a lot of Jags fans saying why bother when you take 1/4 of our home games away from us and if fan support dries up (which might be the goal) it is easier to justify moving to London for good. This is exactly what's happening. Khan is securing his claim to the London franchise. I guess Saint Doug will have to change his name to Sir Doug if he's still there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Is this about that jungle book guy again...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 7 hours ago, Mark Vader said: And you will never get a good answer. What the league should do is play all preseason games at neutral sites. By "neutral" I mean play them in an area that is close to the home team. Why not play them at the local college stadiums? I'm sure this is something that could be manageable. Why would teams give up money from parking, concessions, etc and have increased costs? Unless there is some gain to team see no reason to do so. I had a headhunter do a bait and switch on hire. I was hired for a job less than 10 minutes away from home and then I am called up and told company decided they wanted me in different location an hour away from me on good traffic days. Told recruiter "That is not job I signed up for." and he hung up. First day of new job he calls me "Where are you? It is first day of job!" I told him "I told you that is not job I signed up for, staying at old. I know people at company and if you don't tell them full story and blame me I will hear and sue you for slander." 7 hours ago, H2o said: I understand that aspect of it, but I can't see it being sustainable for the NFL as a whole. The players would have to pay taxes in the US and taxes overseas, because you know most of them aren't going to actually live there. It would be harder on players with families. It would mean that 8 teams would have to make the trip across the Atlantic on a yearly basis. It would also mean that the Jags would be flying back and forth from London to the US 8 times a year. It would be a crappy situation for everyone involved for the most part, but mainly the Jags players themselves. This is a hole of his own making though, Khan, so whatever happens rests squarely on his shoulders. Likely schedule for them would have 2-3 games home and away at a time not turn around and fly back next weekend. I can see this really hurting team and surprised NFLPA has not objected to it like they have everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 7 hours ago, H2o said: I understand that aspect of it, but I can't see it being sustainable for the NFL as a whole. The players would have to pay taxes in the US and taxes overseas, because you know most of them aren't going to actually live there. It would be harder on players with families. It would mean that 8 teams would have to make the trip across the Atlantic on a yearly basis. It would also mean that the Jags would be flying back and forth from London to the US 8 times a year. It would be a crappy situation for everyone involved for the most part, but mainly the Jags players themselves. This is a hole of his own making though, Khan, so whatever happens rests squarely on his shoulders. When Jaguars play teams in two west coast conferences this will be fun! 7 hours ago, corta765 said: My greater fear is that regardless of a 17 game schedule which it sounds like the extra game is a neutral site international game, they force every franchise to align with a foreign city and mimic what the jags have been doing. If the money is great enough I could absolutely see that happening. I wonder if the North Cuba Phish will get Havana as international city. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) Honestly I can’t feel bad for jags fans since they were one of the main crowds that was vocally supporting the Bills moving out of Buffalo when our team was up for bid. Karmas a B word ain’t it. I think the jags relocating was inevitable all those rumors years back about them going to LA now it’s London. Only a matter of time before greedy khan relocates then to London permanently Edited February 5, 2020 by BuffaloBills1998 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 6 hours ago, msw2112 said: While I'm not a fan of expanding the schedule, it appears to be inevitable. The right answer is a 17th game at a neutral site, so that no team is forced to give up a home game (both the revenue and the home field advantage). How is playing at neutral site not giving up revenue? They still have to pay players for game. Best way to handle it is AFC-NFC games. One year AFC hosts extra game and following year NFC hosts extra game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John in Jax Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: Honestly I can’t feel bad for jags fans since they were one of the main crowds that was vocally supporting the Bills moving out of Buffalo when our team was up for bid. Karmas a B word ain’t it. I think the jags relocating was inevitable all those rumors years back about them going to LA now it’s London. Only a matter of time before greedy khan relocates then to London permanently On the local sportscast tonight, Khans top people in the Jags organization were adamant that he (Khan) wants to keep the Jags in Jacksonville “forever.” They wouldn’t be lying, would they? ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 23 minutes ago, John in Jax said: On the local sportscast tonight, Khans top people in the Jags organization were adamant that he (Khan) wants to keep the Jags in Jacksonville “forever.” They wouldn’t be lying, would they? ? Thank god we have the Pegulas. Especially Kim Pegula who is a Buffalo native and has been a huge Bills supporter. All these other idiots on other sport sites like pro football talk are saying Pegulas could do the same lol. When it was known he bought the team to keep them here in Buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 I have been to Jacksonville 3 times. A half full stadium is the norm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Who cares? They gave up 5 home games this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 They gave up home games? I bet they draw more fans in London than Jacksonville. Just move 'em already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 The Dolphins and the Lions pop out to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 11 hours ago, Irv said: You know it really wouldn't be a bad idea to add one game to the schedule and make each team play at a neutral site. I wonder if they could draw fans to say: Bills vs Jets in Lincoln Nebraska. Im thinking Bills vs Patriots at Alcatraz. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 10 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Im thinking Bills vs Patriots at Alcatraz. And the Bills get to go home after the game. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Jaguar... That's a Brit automobile anyway. Perfect fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 13 hours ago, LeGOATski said: Fans in London aren't going to stick around if the Jags don't become a winner. They really need to stick the landing on their next coaching hire. Fans in London don't give a rat's ass about NFL football. The same goes for Mexico City. The NFL is wasting their time. Soccer is king in Europe & Latin America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said: Fans in London don't give a rat's ass about NFL football. The same goes for Mexico City. The NFL is wasting their time. Soccer is king in Europe & Latin America. Not sure about Mexico City, but selling out 4 games a year in London would suggest they do like NFL football.. Soccer is the king agreed, but they can like more than 1 sport right? US like several.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said: Fans in London don't give a rat's ass about NFL football. The same goes for Mexico City. The NFL is wasting their time. Soccer is king in Europe & Latin America. and american football is king in the US so why bother playing hockey? London would sell out a full 16 game slate easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickrage Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 17 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said: What a blow for the fan of the Jags Yeah what a blow. I’m sure all 8 of them will be there for each other though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickrage Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 16 hours ago, 4_kidd_4 said: Honest question, why was this franchise considered a good idea in the first place? I don’t really remember much from that time. There had to be a better option elsewhere, no? Love this question. I was a kid and wasn’t really paying attention back then. For me it was more of a “cool another football team, wonder what their helmets will look like” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 The timing of this announcement is strategically aligned with the team's ambitious and big-picture plans for Jacksonville and, specifically, the planned Lot J development. When completed, Phase One of the proposed $500 million Lot J project in partnership with Cordish Companies would feature an entertainment district, a 200-room hotel, residential buildings offering 405 units and additional parking. Overall, the Lot J project is designed to redefine the downtown experience and landscape while stimulating further development in the downtown and stadium area. It is also the latest, and biggest, endeavor spearheaded by the Jaguars to help Jacksonville realize its full potential. https://www.jaguars.com/news/jaguars-to-play-back-to-back-home-games-in-london-in-2020 That looks like they plan to stay for the majority of future games in Jacksonville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Not sure why globalzing the game gets any support from fans inside the US. How quickly some of you forget how Toronto felt and the uncertain situation with Ralph’s passing. I don’t care if Jacksonville has 5,000 or 5 million fans, that team means a lot to some of them and I wouldn’t enjoy anyone saying screw Buffalo go to Toronto etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardhatharry Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 20 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said: What a blow for the fan of the Jags Well he lives in London so it's all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John in Jax Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 55 minutes ago, CommonCents said: Not sure why globalzing the game gets any support from fans inside the US. How quickly some of you forget how Toronto felt and the uncertain situation with Ralph’s passing. I don’t care if Jacksonville has 5,000 or 5 million fans, that team means a lot to some of them and I wouldn’t enjoy anyone saying screw Buffalo go to Toronto etc. Most people.....I mean football fans, LOL.....here in town are NOT happy with this. And as others have said, I can’t imagine any scenario at all where the players would be happy with this, especially if they have to pay more $$$ in taxes. Not sure how the NFL is handling the latter though. Maybe they have a deal with London where the players don’t have to pay “full rate?” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John in Jax Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 hour ago, ALF said: The timing of this announcement is strategically aligned with the team's ambitious and big-picture plans for Jacksonville and, specifically, the planned Lot J development. When completed, Phase One of the proposed $500 million Lot J project in partnership with Cordish Companies would feature an entertainment district, a 200-room hotel, residential buildings offering 405 units and additional parking. Overall, the Lot J project is designed to redefine the downtown experience and landscape while stimulating further development in the downtown and stadium area. It is also the latest, and biggest, endeavor spearheaded by the Jaguars to help Jacksonville realize its full potential. https://www.jaguars.com/news/jaguars-to-play-back-to-back-home-games-in-london-in-2020 That looks like they plan to stay for the majority of future games in Jacksonville. A lot of people aren’t happy with this either, as they keep taking parking areas away, just as they did when they built a concert venue (Daily’s Place) immediately next to the stadium. And if you can believe this, Daily’s Place is an amphitheater (its covered, but still outside), and there’s NO overhead fans and/or an AC system to blow cold air. Concerts in there from June - September are brutal, yet they have a lot of them. After we went to a June one, that was it for us. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entropyrules Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 20 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said: What a blow for the fan of the Jags and don't forget those poor tarps - what will they do with the extra time off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) 21 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said: What a blow for the fan of the Jags 20 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: I spoke with all three, they are not happy. On the other hand, if the fan base was really buying tickets like crazy, would they have ever moved any games to begin with? 3 hours ago, nickrage said: Yeah what a blow. I’m sure all 8 of them will be there for each other though. By the end of the week, we might be in double figures. Get the Jaguars’ marketing department on the line! ***** 19 minutes ago, entropyrules said: and don't forget those poor tarps - what will they do with the extra time off Tarping sand piles at the Jacksonville city docks. Edited February 5, 2020 by Ridgewaycynic2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 14 hours ago, Limeaid said: How is playing at neutral site not giving up revenue? They still have to pay players for game. Best way to handle it is AFC-NFC games. One year AFC hosts extra game and following year NFC hosts extra game. What I meant was that a team is not giving up the revenue from one of its existing home games. Although they have to pay the players to play one more game, someone is going to televise the game, which brings in TV revenue and I assume the teams would each get a cut of the gate from the neutral site game. They are not going to lose money on the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 6 hours ago, nickrage said: Yeah what a blow. I’m sure all 8 of them will be there for each other though. no, the FAN of the Jags!!! Their ONE FAN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) Not sure if its been mentioned but don't income taxes levied by foreign governments typically qualify to reduce your taxable income at home? How does that work currently with the teams traveling there? Are they taxed by the UK? Edited February 5, 2020 by What a Tuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 7 hours ago, CommonCents said: Not sure why globalzing the game gets any support from fans inside the US. How quickly some of you forget how Toronto felt and the uncertain situation with Ralph’s passing. I don’t care if Jacksonville has 5,000 or 5 million fans, that team means a lot to some of them and I wouldn’t enjoy anyone saying screw Buffalo go to Toronto etc. they already did. They were one of the fan bases that wanted the bills to leave buffalo and go to Toronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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