Reed83HOF Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Solid class. You knew Troy was going in first ballot and Atwater deserves to be in there too. Hutchinson was the most dominant G in the game at one point. James and Bruce are meh to me though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted February 1, 2020 Author Share Posted February 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, H2o said: Solid class. You knew Troy was going in first ballot and Atwater deserves to be in there too. Hutchinson was the most dominant G in the game at one point. James and Bruce are meh to me though. I agree with Deion Sanders - it is becoming the hall of good/great. Zach Thomas is certainly not a HOFer, not once in his career did I say man he is amazing 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: I agree with Deion Sanders - it is becoming the hall of good/great. Zach Thomas is certainly not a HOFer, not once in his career did I say man he is amazing Where has Deion been living the last 15 years? He just now notices this about the Hall? 10 minutes ago, H2o said: Solid class. You knew Troy was going in first ballot and Atwater deserves to be in there too. Hutchinson was the most dominant G in the game at one point. James and Bruce are meh to me though. I think Issac Bruce is deserving. James, not so much. Hutchinson I have reservations, but I understand. Polamalu & Atwater I can understand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 I never watched Edgerrin James and thought HOF 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 22 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: I agree with Deion Sanders - it is becoming the hall of good/great. Zach Thomas is certainly not a HOFer, not once in his career did I say man he is amazing Yep. Edge getting in is ridiculous, but at least it wasn't Zach friggin' Thomas. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 20 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Where has Deion been living the last 15 years? He just now notices this about the Hall? I think Issac Bruce is deserving. James, not so much. Hutchinson I have reservations, but I understand. Polamalu & Atwater I can understand. It is the inevitable result of having yearly enshrinement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 (edited) I remember watching Atwater play at the Ralph in the glory days. He picked off Jim Kelly like he was reading his mind. Great player, great tackler Isaac Bruce was always one of my favourites. Was lucky to have seen him at the Ralph circa 2006 Edited February 1, 2020 by stuvian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 If Zach Thomas makes the HOF they should shut their doors. He’s perhaps the most overrated player in any sport, ever. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 58 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: I agree with Deion Sanders - it is becoming the hall of good/great. Zach Thomas is certainly not a HOFer, not once in his career did I say man he is amazing He is right but adding Neon Deion was start of it. He was a DB who could do things not many could but mouth is not an NFL skill. Coaches who ran at him and WRs who were physical could make him ordinary. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Much deserved for Atwater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Polamalu might have been the best defensive player I’ve ever seen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhg Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Polamalu might have been the best defensive player I’ve ever seen You never saw Bruce Smith play? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 The only selection I somewhat question is James. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 With Polamolu and Cowher getting in this year, there's gonna be alot of Black and Gold making a 2 hour drive to Canton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Solid class. All deserved IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 hour ago, aristocrat said: Polamalu might have been the best defensive player I’ve ever seen agreed. What’s funny is that I have seen a decent amount of comments this week saying he isn’t 1st ballot material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Your Brown Eye said: I never watched Edgerrin James and thought HOF 4 hours ago, Rico said: Yep. Edge getting in is ridiculous, but at least it wasn't Zach friggin' Thomas. Edge was a stud . He has more rushing TDs and yards than Thurman He was a complete all around back who had seasons of 1500 and 1700 and another 1500 yard season, and another 15000 yard season and a few 1200 yarders He came into the league a stud Edited February 2, 2020 by Buffalo716 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Troy deserved to be a 1st ballot guy. The rest are good to great and you could make cases for each of them. None were game changers though. The whole list from 25 down to 5 was very bland. Maybe the worst in years. They really need to remove the "must have 5 every year". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 James deserved the HoF 80 tds and some big rushing seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Rico said: Yep. Edge getting in is ridiculous, but at least it wasn't Zach friggin' Thomas. James was not as good as Thurman Thomas, but he was close: James: 11 years Thomas: 13 years James: 7 seasons over 1,000 yards rushing, and one at 989 when he missed two games, with highs of 1,709 and 1,553 yards. Thomas: 8 season over 1,000 yards rushing, with highs of 1,487 and 1,407 yards. James: 4 seasons over 1,500 yards rushing: Thomas: 0 seasons over 1,500 yards James: 4.0 YPA career Thomas 4.2 YPA career James: 97 career TD's Thomas: 109 career TD's James: 2 season over 500 yards receiving at 594 and 586 yards Thomas: 4 season over 500 yards receiving: 669, 631, 629, and 532 yards James: 7.8 YPR career Thomas: 9.4 YPR career James: 1 year All-Pro and 4 years Pro Bowl Thomas: 2 years All Pro and 5 years Pro Bowl James: 6-7 in playoffs and 0-1 in SB's Thomas: 11-10 in playoffs and 0-4 on SB's Edited February 2, 2020 by chongli 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 4 hours ago, Your Brown Eye said: I never watched Edgerrin James and thought HOF I never thought HOF when I saw Curtis Martin or Frank Gore (a lock now), either. There are many, many other examples, and every year the list grows. Take a look at baseball, where Harold Baines is a Hall of Famer (along with Jack Morris and A. Trammell). All very good players, but not HOF'ers, imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 5 hours ago, Your Brown Eye said: I never watched Edgerrin James and thought HOF I was surprised at James also but he is 13th All-Time in rushing yards with 12,246. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 My take on Edge: - not nearly as good as Marshall Faulk, stupid trade by Polian. - nice stats with the Colts, but never really distinguished himself in big games. In his defense here, he did have a Big Game Chump for a QB. - Colts finally won a Super Bowl the year after he left. - Moved on to the Cardinals (dregs of the league zzzz). He did though go to a SB with them, did nothing in the big game, and was gone the next year. - Finished his career as a scrub with the Seahawks, cut after half a year on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 5 hours ago, GunnerBill said: It is the inevitable result of having yearly enshrinement. Yes, outside of this year they always enshrine six. I liked when Baseball in 2013 didn’t induct anybody. If there’s nobody worthwhile they shouldn’t go looking for someone just to induct. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 31 minutes ago, ColeB said: I was surprised at James also but he is 13th All-Time in rushing yards with 12,246. Meanwhile Frank Gore is 3rd all time in rushing yards, and I don't consider Gore a HoF RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, Rico said: My take on Edge: - not nearly as good as Marshall Faulk, stupid trade by Polian. - nice stats with the Colts, but never really distinguished himself in big games. In his defense here, he did have a Big Game Chump for a QB. - Colts finally won a Super Bowl the year after he left. - Moved on to the Cardinals (dregs of the league zzzz). He did though go to a SB with them, did nothing in the big game, and was gone the next year. - Finished his career as a scrub with the Seahawks, cut after half a year on the team. Another Colt gets in and it becomes more mind blowing how much talent and how many seasons Dungy wasted in Indy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 3 hours ago, chongli said: James was not as good as Thurman Thomas, but he was close: James: 11 years Thomas: 13 years James: 7 seasons over 1,000 yards rushing, and one at 989 when he missed two games, with highs of 1,709 and 1,553 yards. Thomas: 8 season over 1,000 yards rushing, with highs of 1,487 and 1,407 yards. James: 4 seasons over 1,500 yards rushing: Thomas: 0 seasons over 1,500 yards James: 4.0 YPA career Thomas 4.2 YPA career James: 97 career TD's Thomas: 109 career TD's James: 2 season over 500 yards receiving at 594 and 586 yards Thomas: 4 season over 500 yards receiving: 669, 631, 629, and 532 yards James: 7.8 YPR career Thomas: 9.4 YPR career James: 1 year All-Pro and 4 years Pro Bowl Thomas: 2 years All Pro and 5 years Pro Bowl James: 6-7 in playoffs and 0-1 in SB's Thomas: 11-10 in playoffs and 0-4 on SB's Thomas was MVP in 1991, and deserved it. James was never close to deserving that award in any year. I have a similar complaint about Gore getting in. It's not the Hall of Consistently Very Good. What a tough choice, figuring who was better, Troy Polamalu or Ed Reed. Just a pair of great great safeties who happened to play at about the same time. I think Reed was better at playing within the system, while Troy was a cruise missile. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 5 hours ago, Utah John said: Thomas was MVP in 1991, and deserved it. James was never close to deserving that award in any year. I have a similar complaint about Gore getting in. It's not the Hall of Consistently Very Good. What a tough choice, figuring who was better, Troy Polamalu or Ed Reed. Just a pair of great great safeties who happened to play at about the same time. I think Reed was better at playing within the system, while Troy was a cruise missile. They were both amazing and as a DB guys I was amazed by They were different players but both impacted the game so much Troy was like a LBr playing safety who also had some great ball skill's. He was a superstar that could do everything and left nothing back Ed was such a gifted ballhawk that saw the game batter than anyone He saw routes develop better than the WRs that ran them and he could also lay the wood.. what a amazing talent with the ball in his hands and such a class act Both are truly immortalized in my eyes in the history of the game and what fun players they both were Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 The Hall of Fame and Meh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) James should not be in the hall. Very underwhelming considering he played with one of the greatest quarterbacks. Was he good sure. Was he HOF great, no. I guess after seeing the stats he was maybe better then I remember? Still never thought of the guy as wow hes great... Edited February 2, 2020 by Sharky7337 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Palamalu and Hutchinson are the only guys HOF worthy. Terribly mediocre class. I will still beat the drum that Don Coryell is more important to NFL than any of these other guys. And Tom Flores not in the HOF is a crime. Two time SB winner from the same franchise that out Madden in with only one. As others have said I never once thought Gore, Martin, or James were ever HOF worthy. But they have the numbers to back it up. And in a passing league if you are top 15 and top3 in rushing yards it does speak to some level of greatness. 3 hours ago, Sharky7337 said: James should not be in the hall. Very underwhelming considering he played with one of the greatest quarterbacks. Was he good sure. Was he HOF great, no. I guess after seeing the stats he was maybe better then I remember? Still never thought of the guy as wow hes great... Would you put in James or Harrison? I'd argue Harrison was more a product of Manning than James was. I think neither belong based on eyeball test but the stats say otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 23 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: I agree with Deion Sanders - it is becoming the hall of good/great. Zach Thomas is certainly not a HOFer, not once in his career did I say man he is amazing Zach Thomas was a 5 time first team all pro. He deserves to be in the hall of fame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 The running back debate is always a particularly interesting one. You have James with his 7 years of 1,000 plus yards, twice the NFL rushing leader, twice a 1st team all pro, and the OROTY and you have Terrell Davis, with what is basically a four year career, 3 times a 1st team all pro, 2 Superbowl rings and a Superbowl MVP. How do you judge longevity vs impact? Is one or the other enough for HOFer? Or really should a HOF career at running back require both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 I thought some one other than Edgerin James should have made it like maybe Steve Tasker ? James was a good player but i thought the HOF was for special players Edgerin was better than average but IMHO not a "Great" player which Tasker's peers have been said that he set the bar for all ST's players after him & they look to be like him . What more needs to be said if other players look to another player to be like & raise their personal game to that level & most players that play on the same squad as a player that had that type of influence on others for such a long time after their respective career was over i'd say that is something special & belongs in the HOF . JMHO !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 On 2/2/2020 at 1:44 PM, Ethan in Portland said: Palamalu and Hutchinson are the only guys HOF worthy. Terribly mediocre class. Not Atwater? He totally is deserving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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