Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Clinching a playoff spot with 2 games remaining is truly uncharted territory for most Bills fans. This season has been amazing, it probably came a little earlier then people expected and it almost feels like we are playing with house money now. That being said, the AFC is wide open. I honestly feel like the Bills have a fighting chance against anyone and now the real fun begins. We now have a chance to win some franchise changing games and advance in the playoffs. This Defense is excellent. There is very little room for improvement and it would be selfish to ask for any more from them. They are the backbone of the team and have been single handily beating teams. Defense travels in the playoffs and our guys will give us a fighting chance against anyone in January. The offense is a work in progress. They are streaky but seems to have a knack for pulling off big plays, at opportune times. We have a fearless, young, super athletic QB that the team rally’s behind, a few nice pieces at WR and a rising star in Singletary. The play calling can be frustrating at times but overall there are some nice things going on. The 1 major weakness right now, is the #2 RB. Frank Gore is going to the hall of fame. He has been an excellent compiler of statistics and has been a top 10ish back for the majority of his career. It’s been very nice having Gore here to show Singletary the ropes and teach him how to be a professional. Gore doesn’t fumble so the Bills want to trust him in spots deep in their own end. The guy seems like an incredible teammate and a very good guy. There are a lot of wonderful things to say about Gore....The guy is completely done. It’s been obvious for weeks and it’s only getting worse. He has been in the league for so long, nobody could ever blame him for looking this way. Gore got passed Barry Sanders. He’s on the team, you don’t have to cut him, just stop playing him. The guy is killing our offensive rhythm and he’s destroying drives. It’s going to cost us a game. I’m not sure how anyone watching this team can disagree. The only guy that doesn’t see it, is Dabol. Every week I hope that Yeldon is active. I don’t even care if Yeldon gets the ball, you just need to find a way to keep Gore off the field. I don’t want to be so hard on the guy but he’s not even averaging 2 yards a carry in some of these games. The Bills have 2 weeks before the playoffs to try and find a capable complement to Singletary. Maybe that guy is on the roster, maybe he’s on a the street. The one thing the Bills seem to always find, are good running backs. Gores recent performance are unacceptable and in the playoffs you need to be at your absolute best. Identify the issue early when you have a chance to correct it and get firing on all cylinders when it counts the most. Don’t let the wins cover up the warts. Let’s take advantage of this great season and win playoff games. Go Bills! 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 He’s a liability right now. Too many negative runs when he’s in there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 He's not going anywhere until after the season. And frankly once in the playoffs I feel better with him on the squad. Next season, time to retire. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 I say wrap him in bubble wrap until the playoffs. Bring up Yeldon and let him get his feet wet 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB48 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: He's not going anywhere until after the season. And frankly once in the playoffs I feel better with him on the squad. Next season, time to retire. He doesn't have to go anywhere!!! Just get someone else on the field when Singletary needs a break! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 Just now, Green Lightning said: He's not going anywhere until after the season. And frankly once in the playoffs I feel better with him on the squad. Next season, time to retire. I don’t care if he’s on the roster. Just make him the 3 or better yet, inactive. Give Perry a few carries. He’s active every week and you never even think about him. He will not be worse then Gore. Let’s see that 32 carrying the ball a little and see if we can’t recapture some of its (on the field) glory. I’m down for anyone but Gore at this point. It’s over. Don’t wait until we lose a playoff game to do something about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Obviously they don't trust Yeldon or else he would have active the last couple games 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 He just can’t get carries anymore. He’s a warrior. He’s going to the HOF. He’s great in the locker room. He just can’t play football anymore. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 You’re not wrong about Gore being done. I think for Daboll it comes down to who he trusts more in terms of ball security. Yeldon has been known to fumble and Daboll is probably thinking that the backup RB will only get 5 touches a game, so might as well go with the guy who won’t fumble. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I don’t care if he’s on the roster. Just make him the 3 or better yet, inactive. Give Perry a few carries. He’s active every week and you never even think about him. He will not be worse then Gore. Let’s see that 32 carrying the ball a little and see if we can’t recapture some of its (on the field) glory. I’m down for anyone but Gore at this point. It’s over. Don’t wait until we lose a playoff game to do something about it I don't disagree but I just don't see the coaches doing it. The situation's been the same the last several games. At this point I think they don't want to upset the apple cart by bringing up Yeldon or Perry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 It would be a good time to roll out the rugby dude. JK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Green Lightning is right. I don't disagree that he is generally a liability. His one use is as a short yardage back if the opposing team's interior defensive line isn't too stout. Baltimore and Pittsburgh have very stout defensive lines, so many times it looked like he was running into a brick wall. when he's running in heavy traffic, he takes good care of the ball. That said, I think he was a one year band aid for the Bills. I think Buffalo will draft at least one new running back. I wouldn't be surprised to see Yeldon gone and another free agent acquired. SIngletary is a good back, but he needs more help to share the load. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 I've been his biggest critic this season, but outside of that terrible possession inside the Steelers' 10, I thought he played relatively well yesterday against the best defense in football (imo). 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berg1029 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 12 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Clinching a playoff spot with 2 games remaining is truly uncharted territory for most Bills fans. This season has been amazing, it probably came a little earlier then people expected and it almost feels like we are playing with house money now. That being said, the AFC is wide open. I honestly feel like the Bills have a fighting chance against anyone and now the real fun begins. We now have a chance to win some franchise changing games and advance in the playoffs. This Defense is excellent. There is very little room for improvement and it would be selfish to ask for any more from them. They are the backbone of the team and have been single handily beating teams. Defense travels in the playoffs and our guys will give us a fighting chance against anyone in January. The offense is a work in progress. They are streaky but seems to have a knack for pulling off big plays, at opportune times. We have a fearless, young, super athletic QB that the team rally’s behind, a few nice pieces at WR and a rising star in Singletary. The play calling can be frustrating at times but overall there are some nice things going on. The 1 major weakness right now, is the #2 RB. Frank Gore is going to the hall of fame. He has been an excellent compiler of statistics and has been a top 10ish back for the majority of his career. It’s been very nice having Gore here to show Singletary the ropes and teach him how to be a professional. Gore doesn’t fumble so the Bills want to trust him in spots deep in their own end. The guy seems like an incredible teammate and a very good guy. There are a lot of wonderful things to say about Gore....The guy is completely done. It’s been obvious for weeks and it’s only getting worse. He has been in the league for so long, nobody could ever blame him for looking this way. Gore got passed Barry Sanders. He’s on the team, you don’t have to cut him, just stop playing him. The guy is killing our offensive rhythm and he’s destroying drives. It’s going to cost us a game. I’m not sure how anyone watching this team can disagree. The only guy that doesn’t see it, is Dabol. Every week I hope that Yeldon is active. I don’t even care if Yeldon gets the ball, you just need to find a way to keep Gore off the field. I don’t want to be so hard on the guy but he’s not even averaging 2 yards a carry in some of these games. The Bills have 2 weeks before the playoffs to try and find a capable complement to Singletary. Maybe that guy is on the roster, maybe he’s on a the street. The one thing the Bills seem to always find, are good running backs. Gores recent performance are unacceptable and in the playoffs you need to be at your absolute best. Identify the issue early when you have a chance to correct it and get firing on all cylinders when it counts the most. Don’t let the wins cover up the warts. Let’s take advantage of this great season and win playoff games. Go Bills! I don't think that "Daboll doesn't see it", like you said OP. Trust me, he watches the same games as us and I would wager that his football knowledge is greater than ours. Frank Gore is playing ineffective football and Daboll 100% is aware of it. There's a reason he's being kept in there. Whether it is in deference to his legacy or Daboll just wants to have someone that can reliably not fumble the ball while eating clock.. I don't know. But trust me, Daboll is absolutely aware of how ineffective he is and there's a reason he's on the game day roster/getting playing time. I would assume in the playoffs, they will probably scale back his role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Next year I would make him our RB coach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 If Singleterry goes down, who do you want to replace him as the number one running back? I know who I want, Gore. It would not be a great situation but he would be the best option. Consequently he needs to be active and, yes, he needs touches. He is still getting some tough yards on a lot of his carries. The OP overstates the case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Green Lightning said: He's not going anywhere until after the season. And frankly once in the playoffs I feel better with him on the squad. Next season, time to retire. I would agree. If they run him up the middle he’s generally good for his 3-4 yards. They get a little too cute sometimes when he’s out there. Kinda hard to blame him when he’s hit 2-3 yards behind the line. Obviously he has zero business trying to get to the edge. But come playoff time, 2nd and goal from the 3, down by 3 in the 4th. They’re gonna run play action and everyone will bite hard because they’ve ran him with zero success in goal situations all year and every team has seen it on film. Daboll likes to play the long game. Seriously though, I trust Gore can pick it up a notch come playoff time. He is done, but like mcdermott said nobody knows the size of these guys hearts. It’s his farewell tour he will put it all on the line to help this team advance in the playoffs. I do not disagree that they need a third back just to show defenses something different though. Perry can’t be that bad that he can’t line up as running back 10-12 plays a game right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: I don't disagree but I just don't see the coaches doing it. The situation's been the same the last several games. At this point I think they don't want to upset the apple cart by bringing up Yeldon or Perry. Perry’s active every game already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: Obviously they don't trust Yeldon or else he would have active the last couple games I don’t think so either. I noticed a few weeks ago, when Singletary fumbles, he goes right to the bench. There were times when Gore plying actually hurt the team with Singletary on the bench - but McDermott wanted to prove a point - you can’t fumble. I don’t think he trusts TJ, and would rather have a dependable Gore running the ball Just now, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Perry’s active every game already You don’t want Perry running the football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 26 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: He’s a liability right now. Too many negative runs when he’s in there. The problem also is that Gore is in the game when every play is a running play and he doesn;'t have thee prior speed to overrun these guys. When we played him heavily in thee NE game, he was effective running the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Nothing needs to be and will done about this team until after the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 From Tolbert to Gore... The Bills had a good #2 back last year: Chris Ivory. Remember the runs he made to seal games last year? The Bills made a mistake replacing him with Gore, IMO. #2 RB is a big need next year. That and making Brown a #2 WR will help this offense go to the next level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 42 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinxedBill Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 He needs to run straight ahead and not bounce it outside. If he bounces, he’ll lose yards. I agree tho we need a upgrade at RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 32 minutes ago, Mojo44 said: If Singleterry goes down, who do you want to replace him as the number one running back? I know who I want, Gore. It would not be a great situation but he would be the best option. Consequently he needs to be active and, yes, he needs touches. He is still getting some tough yards on a lot of his carries. The OP overstates the case. If Singletary gets hurt I want Yeldon to be the RB. I don’t want to see Gore get another carry unless it’s a 1 yd TD in garbage time of a super bowl win. The guy is done 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haslett_Stomp Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 40 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: He's not going anywhere until after the season. And frankly once in the playoffs I feel better with him on the squad. Next season, time to retire. ^This. Gore will pay off in spades in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 33 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said: I don’t think so either. I noticed a few weeks ago, when Singletary fumbles, he goes right to the bench. There were times when Gore plying actually hurt the team with Singletary on the bench - but McDermott wanted to prove a point - you can’t fumble. I don’t think he trusts TJ, and would rather have a dependable Gore running the ball You don’t want Perry running the football Then cut him. Why bother having Yeldon on this roster if you aren’t even going to dress him? You should have just kept Murphy. When Yeldon played he was the only thing we had on offense against NE. If you don’t trust him, cut him and sign another back. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffarukus Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 yea sorry. i was acctually happy to see gore come in yesterday. the fumbling could have lost us the game and gore isnt a worldbeater but hes dependable to grind yards out after first contact and wont fumble...thats what you need in close games to control clock and churn out a hard fought first down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: From Tolbert to Gore... The Bills had a good #2 back last year: Chris Ivory. Remember the runs he made to seal games last year? The Bills made a mistake replacing him with Gore, IMO. #2 RB is a big need next year. That and making Brown a #2 WR will help this offense go to the next level. I liked Ivory in that role last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Just now, Brianmoorman4jesus said: If Singletary gets hurt I want Yeldon to be the RB. I don’t want to see Gore get another carry unless it’s a 1 yd TD in garbage time of a super bowl win. The guy is done Don’t agree. Clearly Yeldon has done nothing to instill a drop of confidence in the coaches. If so he would have seen the field weeks ago! If Gore is “done” then Yeldon never got put in the oven. Before the season is done I wouldn’t be surprised if Gore makes an important contribution. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Buffarukus said: yea sorry. i was acctually happy to see gore come in yesterday. the fumbling could have lost us the game and gore isnt a worldbeater but hes dependable to grind yards out after first contact and wont fumble...thats what you need in close games to control clock and churn out a hard fought first down. But he’s not churning out the first down. He’s putting the offense off time with 0 yards gained on first and second down. He’s doing the opposite of advancing the game and moving the clock. He’s causing 3 and outs where Singletary is gaining over 5 yards a carry for the season. It’s senseless to not realize it. Gore is the reason we don’t score more. Any other RB on this roster would give us more. Possibly including Demarco 1 minute ago, Mojo44 said: Don’t agree. Clearly Yeldon has done nothing to instill a drop of confidence in the coaches. If so he would have seen the field weeks ago! If Gore is “done” then Yeldon never got put in the oven. Before the season is done I wouldn’t be surprised if Gore makes an important contribution. Hopefully it’s a retirement before the playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffarukus Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: But he’s not churning out the first down. He’s putting the offense off time with 0 yards gained on first and second down. He’s doing the opposite of advancing the game and moving the clock. He’s causing 3 and outs where Singletary is gaining over 5 yards a carry for the season. It’s senseless to not realize it. Gore is the reason we don’t score more. Any other RB on this roster would give us more. Possibly including Demarco Hopefully it’s a retirement before the playoffs i cant disagree but lets not act like guys werent all over him as soon as he touches it. when he gets alittle room and lowers his shoulders he drags guys and gets the extra yardage. pitt has a great d line. if you asked me before the season id say keep ivory or even grab blount as a hammer type veteran. gore has exceeded expectations so as a rb 2 im ok with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 I haven't seen a running back get blown up (and I mean knocked backwards off his feet) as many times as I have seen Gore this season. I can think of at least 5 occasions where he has been obliterated by the defense in short yardage situations. The weird thing is that Gore is still in great shape and weighs 212 but is getting bounced back like a beachball. All I can figure is that he is too slow to make a move and defensive players are able to get a shot dead centre on him. He is way more done than Shady ever looked last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 What needs to be done is to stop calling off tackle runs for him. He still seems ok up the middle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Gore ran all over the pats in the first game let’s see him do it again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBobby Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Since the Bills like to teach Singletary a lesson and sit him after he makes a mistake or needs a breather, how about we just kneel the ball down? It's basically the same exact thing. In both scenarios, we are giving up on the drive and Gore running is a wash compared to a kneel down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mc1320 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Horrible take. Gore’s stats are down because they are now running him in situations where the opponent is expecting the run and loading the box. Singletary’s fumbles should be a concern and Yeldon was putting the ball on the ground when he was playing earlier in the season. Singletary has been good in pass protection in terms of picking up his assignments but has been overpowered in some cases simply because he is a smaller back. I am perfectly fine having Gore as the safety blanket that won’t fumble and is better in pass pro than Singletary or Yeldon as the pressure increases as we head into the playoffs - especially since teams will continue to blitz Allen until he starts to consistently burn them on the blitz. I understand the desire for them to activate Duke Williams so we have a bigger receiver on the field - I do not understand the fascination with Yeldon. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: If Singletary gets hurt I want Yeldon to be the RB. I don’t want to see Gore get another carry unless it’s a 1 yd TD in garbage time of a super bowl win. The guy is done the last guy I want to see anywhere near this team come playoff time is Yeldon. He gets blown over by a stiff breeze and has fumble issues on top of that. I’d rather they grab a guy off the street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins90 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Guys, Gore had a few great runs last night. He had several carries over five yards. The problem is, he needs to be taken out once he gets a carry like that. He can't have back-to-back carries. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Frankly speaking, it's a gory situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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