Dablitzkrieg Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just heard this on the extra point show with Sal C. Does anyone know what the hell happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 terrible officiating at the end of the 1st half is my guess. Ravens had 12 men on the field and there was no call. Then there was the blatent PI at the end of the half, but he can't be too upset about that since he did not challenge it. I could see challenging it, getting screwed, and then being upset. Interested to hear if there is anything more. Glad to see him fired up. The officiating in the 1st half was terrible, much better in the 2nd. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Had to be the 12 men in the huddle no call. He was fuming on the sidelines. The vein in his forehead was in serious jeopardy of popping. 5 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 It's nice to have a coach going into these big games and expecting to win. Time to actually win them now 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 For as much as the fans drink in that stadium I'm waiting for the full field fan incursion. Worst officiated game I have watched in a long time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Broken clapper, it could happen to anyone 3 21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I mean the officials did just about gift the Ravens their first TD. 4 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 The refs looked like they were employed by the Ravens. To miss those type of calls is just mind boggling and completely amateur . Glad he was so upset , especially the 12 man non call. That changes everything in that situation. Those 4 points were obviously crucial 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Maybe he wanted to go after Harbaugh for the fake kneel-down. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Think ii saw something on twitter it was between McD and Ravens players..not the refs. Will look for some info at lunch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: terrible officiating at the end of the 1st half is my guess. Ravens had 12 men on the field and there was no call. Then there was the blatent PI at the end of the half, but he can't be too upset about that since he did not challenge it. I could see challenging it, getting screwed, and then being upset. Interested to hear if there is anything more. Glad to see him fired up. The officiating in the 1st half was terrible, much better in the 2nd. It was awful in the second half too but in our favor. Don't be a homer. They were terrible all game. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: The refs looked like they were employed by the Ravens. To miss those type of calls is just mind boggling and completely amateur . Glad he was so upset , especially the 12 man non call. That changes everything in that situation. Those 4 points were obviously crucial And this was the same drive where they called holding on Star and another penalty on Jerry Hughes for hurting their feelings after the Star penalty. Edited December 9, 2019 by Warcodered 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 My guess is the 12 men on the field missed call against the Ravens or Harbaugh's bush league fake "take a knee". You don't win two high school wrestling national championships, go from walk-on to starter at a I-AA school without having a fire. I love this. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, Warcodered said: And thus was the same drive where they called holding on Star and another penalty on Jerry Hughes for hurting their feelings after the Star penalty. Oh ya!! And was I the only one who saw hands to the face on Star for at least 2 seconds? With a ref right there! Ridiculous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Good. Even if you're wrong, give 'em an earful. Refs are human; they look for makeup calls. We got 'em when we needed 'em too. Gotta work the refs; the good ones all do it. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: terrible officiating at the end of the 1st half is my guess. Ravens had 12 men on the field and there was no call. Then there was the blatent PI at the end of the half, but he can't be too upset about that since he did not challenge it. I could see challenging it, getting screwed, and then being upset. Interested to hear if there is anything more. Glad to see him fired up. The officiating in the 1st half was terrible, much better in the 2nd. Sure he could because everyone knows challenging PI calls are a waste of time. Far more blatant PI's have not been overturned on challenge Edited December 9, 2019 by matter2003 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: Oh ya!! And was I the only one who saw hands to the face on Star for at least 2 seconds? With a ref right there! Ridiculous. No I saw that as well. Ridiculous as to how that was missed ! Did McD explain why he didn't challenge that PI non call on the deep throw by Josh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 McD's tirade at the officials reminded me of Marv Levy. He'd chew on the "over-officious jerks" every game. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: Oh ya!! And was I the only one who saw hands to the face on Star for at least 2 seconds? With a ref right there! Ridiculous. No, I saw it also. That "should" have been the call. Instead they call holding on the Bills during a running play. Refs were really bad, think I've seen a handful of games where the refs actually called a good fair game. It'slike they get worse every season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, Process said: It was awful in the second half too but in our favor. Don't be a homer. They were terrible all game. where was I being a homer. I din't see it in our "favor" the second half. We still had calls against us. The PI on Beasley was questionable, but that gets called all over the NFL now. The requirement of "catchable" seems to be long gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talley56 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I guess some of us just won’t accept the fact that suspect calls happened both ways and we truly lost fair and square yesterday. The no call on the PI everyone is upset about looked very weak and I’m sure every team, including the Bills, have gotten away with it numerous times. If officiating is why McDermott was so upset then it makes me disappointed in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaccof Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I'm pretty sure the guys on CBS said that Raven's players were taunting McD in the tunnel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Patrick_Duffy said: No, I saw it also. That "should" have been the call. Instead they call holding on the Bills during a running play. Refs were really bad, think I've seen a handful of games where the refs actually called a good fair game. It'slike they get worse every season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I’m confused. Talking about halftime or at the end of the game? All that stuff referenced above happened in the second half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, chaccof said: I'm pretty sure the guys on CBS said that Raven's players were taunting McD in the tunnel. Don't recall that. But if legit? The war is on. You can bet every game from here on out between the two is gonna be more than a bit chippy. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, Livinginthepast said: No I saw that as well. Ridiculous as to how that was missed ! Did McD explain why he didn't challenge that PI non call on the deep throw by Josh? It would make sense that McD suspected that it wouldn't be reversed due to the league's stance on PI calls made by the refs, which the league stays with the refs calls unless it is a playoff situation. It looked like he wanted to, but I think that was in the back of his mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, H2o said: I mean it's true though. They screw up more and more, on a lot of teams. Not just Bills games. They are awful. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullim4 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 14 minutes ago, mannc said: Maybe he wanted to go after Harbaugh for the fake kneel-down. This was one of the most bush league plays I've seen in a while. Straight out of the Belichick playbook. His QB is going to get hurt one of these days on a play like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pogues Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 McDermott was rightfully livid that the bush league Ravens faked a kneel down. That's how guys get hurt. When the Ravens went into Victory formation at the end of the game we should have knee capped them. We had no way of knowing if they might do it again. But we have too much class as a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11....12 ????? .....what to do ????? Edited December 9, 2019 by I am the egg man 1 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stosh64 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Can someone explain to me how the NFL, the multi-multi billion dollar industry, uses amateur, part time officials for their games? Its treated like a beer league, these guys get to forget their regular 9-5's and play dress up/ make a few bucks on the weekend. They have proven on a weekly basis for years that they have no business being on the field yet here we are, EVERY week. . 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 24 minutes ago, mannc said: Maybe he wanted to go after Harbaugh for the fake kneel-down. Do you think that was called by Harbough, or do you think the Raven players improvised that play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, stosh64 said: Can someone explain to me how the NFL, the multi-multi billion dollar industry, uses amateur, part time officials for their games? Its treated like a beer league, these guys get to forget their regular 9-5's and play dress up/ make a few bucks on the weekend. They have proven on a weekly basis for years that they have no business being on the field yet here we are, EVERY week. . The part-time thing does not bother me as much as the fact they are awful. I'm not sure, but I think college FB is part-time as well. The problem is that there is zero accountability apparently besides not getting the "big games." And who is grading them. I mean, missing 12 men in a huddle should be a fine. plain and simple. Just now, PIZ said: Do you think that was called by Harbough, or do you think the Raven players improvised that play? I'm in the minority and didn't mind it. It's against the Bills defense, the Ravens know they needed points, and there was a chance at catching the D sleeping. Reminded me of Marino (I think) faking the clocking years ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, PIZ said: Do you think that was called by Harbough, or do you think the Raven players improvised that play? No way the players did that on their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stosh64 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, sullim4 said: This was one of the most bush league plays I've seen in a while. Straight out of the Belichick playbook. His QB is going to get hurt one of these days on a play like that. They deserve to get hurt pulling this classless move. **** everyone involved with this sleazy play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, stosh64 said: They deserve to get hurt pulling this classless move. **** everyone involved with this sleazy play. Murphy should have grabbed and slammed the out of Lamar on that play just on shear principle alone. See if they ran the same play again. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, H2o said: Murphy should have grabbed and slammed the out of Lamar on that play just on shear principle alone. See if they ran the same play again. Belichick will instruct one of his defenders to do that if they meet in the playoffs. Watch. Edited December 9, 2019 by YoloinOhio 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stosh64 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: The part-time thing does not bother me as much as the fact they are awful. I'm not sure, but I think college FB is part-time as well. The problem is that there is zero accountability apparently besides not getting the "big games." And who is grading them. I mean, missing 12 men in a huddle should be a fine. plain and simple. I'm in the minority and didn't mind it. It's against the Bills defense, the Ravens know they needed points, and there was a chance at catching the D sleeping. Reminded me of Marino (I think) faking the clocking years ago. Agreed that they need to be held accountable. Seems the nfl makes a conscious decision to keep the status quo with officiating instead of trying to improve it. There is only 1 reason to keep the status quo and that is criminal and could possibly kill the nfl. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, H2o said: Murphy should have grabbed and slammed the out of Lamar on that play just on shear principle alone. See if they ran the same play again. Murphy would tear whatever is left in his knee trying to make a play. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I have zero problem with the trick play. It's the middle of a tight game, why not take a shot? It's not as if they were piling on or anything. I can't imagine McDermott was pissed about that play. It had to be the 12 men on the field missed call. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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