Still worried about the Bills' offense?

[SCBills]

7 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Yea not really understanding the thread.... solid game but they scored 20 points and hurt themselves with penalties several times throughout the game.

Yep.... and I still hate it. Gives teams opportunities to get back into the game..... they went with a different, more aggressive approach last week and then went back the conservative nature again this week. Don’t really understand it.

If the game was still going on right now, Denver still wouldn’t have more than 13 points...

 

Our staff knew it was game over, absent any major mistakes, after that first drive of the second half.   
 

This game was incredibly boring, but no need to throw the ball around in a windy stadium for no reason.  
 

I want to criticize McDermott and staff for being so run heavy and conservative, but I 100% get it.  
 

 

Edited November 25, 2019 by SCBills

[Kelly the Dog]

Just now, SCBills said:

If the game was still going on right now, Denver still wouldn’t have more than 13 points...

 

Our staff knew it was game over, absent any major mistake, after that first drive of the second half.   
 

This game was incredibly boring, but no need to throw the ball around in a windy stadium for no reason.  
 

I want to criticize McDermott and staff for being so run heavy, but I 100% get it. 

To me, this is the game to do what they did and I have no problem with it. Our defense had the game in control. In other games, with similar scores, I think it's bad coaching to take your foot off the gas. It gives you less of a chance to win. And most all of the best coaches will try to bury teams. In today's game, I didn't mind the conservative nature. But it cuts down on stats. 

[SJDK]

5 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Josh is improving every week. Just not at the lightning speed pace that impatient fans demand.  I'm very very encouraged by his progress. This is an offense that won't be fully ready till next year. This year reminds me of 1989. Next year might be our 1990.

I just don’t want a “Ronnie Harmon” moment in the playoffs!

[GunnerBill]

4 hours ago, ganesh said:

Stay with the Running game. It does wonders.  We don't want to get carried away in Dallas.  Running the ball and stopping the Run keeps their best players on offense off the field. 

Spain is signed for two years and is a good quality backup.  I don't believe any of the OL players will be leaving.  

The Bills need to sign Dawkins, Poyer, Phillips and Lawson.

 

Nah Spain is a 1 year deal and is a good quality starter. 

[Scott7975]

6 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

Denver doesn't have a good record but their defense is inarguably top 10. 9th in DVOA, 8th in yards per play, 4th in yards per game, 8th in points per game. Our offense figured something out the past 2 weeks. Daboll going to the booth and running the no huddle have given us life. Still in need of an elite talent but we know they can move the ball.

 

They are also #2 in red zone defense.

[Scott7975]

5 hours ago, NoSaint said:

I mean, we scored less than league average points against a better than average defense. We scored essentially spot on what they allow. Relatively average day.

 

the defense pitched a heckuva game against a bad offense. 
 

it was a good day. I don’t know that anyone should be doing call out threads on behalf of the offense though.

 

It should be obvious that they could have scored more if they were actually trying.  This offense went in to shut down for most of the 4th quarter just trying to get Gore his yards and kill clock.  The Bills kneeled down the ball on the 22 yard line after running half the field.  If they wanted to put up more points they could have.

[GreggTX]

In case no one noticed, we just snuck into the top 5 in rushing offense. We're 24th in passing yards per game. Defensively, we're 3rd against the pass and 15th against the run.

[Your Brown Eye]

Last two opponents are 5-17, not convinced yet. Let's see how they do against the next two opponents where they potentially need to put up the same amount, if not more points, against higher quality opponents. They won the last two games like they were supposed to, convincingly, but let's be real the opponents sucked. It's like solving a 1+1 math problem and then turning around and saying your a mathematician now, let's pump the brakes.

[eball]

9 hours ago, NoSaint said:

it was a good day. I don’t know that anyone should be doing call out threads on behalf of the offense though.

 

Hey man, you start the threads you want to start and I'll start the threads I want to start.

 

Everyone has trashed the offense and in back to back weeks they've looked like a better-than-average NFL offense.  I don't think there's anything wrong with recognizing that even when the team wasn't scoring they've been moving the ball, as evidenced by their overall yardage ranking.  They just won two NFL games in a row by 17 points, which is an anomaly in this league.

 

With so many new pieces and the limited amount of time the CBA allows for practice, it was only reasonable to suggest it would take them some time.  If you want to carry on with the "yeah, but I need to see it consistently" refrain be my guest, but I see an offense that is most definitely trending up and giving opponents multiple things to worry about.

[GunnerBill]

3 minutes ago, eball said:

 

Hey man, you start the threads you want to start and I'll start the threads I want to start.

 

Everyone has trashed the offense and in back to back weeks they've looked like a better-than-average NFL offense.  I don't think there's anything wrong with recognizing that even when the team wasn't scoring they've been moving the ball, as evidenced by their overall yardage ranking.  They just won two NFL games in a row by 17 points, which is an anomaly in this league.

 

With so many new pieces and the limited amount of time the CBA allows for practice, it was only reasonable to suggest it would take them some time.  If you want to carry on with the "yeah, but I need to see it consistently" refrain be my guest, but I see an offense that is most definitely trending up and giving opponents multiple things to worry about.

 

I think they looked like a better than average offense through 3 weeks too. Between the Pats week 4 and the Browns week 10 decidedly less so. This week was, as @HappyDays referred to above, the first time they did it against a genuinely good defense.

[apuszczalowski]

How can anyone be concerned? They scored 20 points (could have always scored more but just didn't feel like it). I bet KC and Baltimore are working right now to revamp their offences to copy the Bills juggernaut.

 

Does anyone really feel confident that if the Bills had to play KC, Baltimore, SF, NO, or another of the top teams in the league that this offence could get them a win right now if the defence doesn't play lights out perfect?

 

Come back in a few weeks with this post of the Bills shock the league and beat Dallas and Baltimore. Then you can start bragging and calling out all the people who doubted the offence.....

[CorkScrewHill]

2 hours ago, Your Brown Eye said:

Last two opponents are 5-17, not convinced yet. Let's see how they do against the next two opponents where they potentially need to put up the same amount, if not more points, against higher quality opponents. They won the last two games like they were supposed to, convincingly, but let's be real the opponents sucked. It's like solving a 1+1 math problem and then turning around and saying your a mathematician now, let's pump the brakes.

Here is the interesting thing about your comment .. the Bills have won 8 games and the Cowboys 6, but the Cowboys are a good team per your comment and we are not certain about the Bills because who they have beaten. Who exactly have the Cowboys beaten .. the murderer's row of Giants * 2, Redskins, Dolphins, Lions, and Eagles.  Since they beat the eagles and we lost .. does that make the difference? Then what about the jets who we beat and they lost to?  So if we beat the Cowboys do we say the Cowboys are not very good because they are a .500 team.

[CodeMonkey]

16 hours ago, eball said:

If so you have my sympathies.  God forbid a team with 7-8 new starters be allowed to work things out and get better as the season progresses.

 

With back-to-back 17 point wins the Bills are ruining the "they only scrape by crappy opponents" narrative!

Yes they beat the last 2 sub .500 teams by the amount they should.  

But don't expect everyone to start drinking the koolaid until the Bills beat "someone".  If they manage to beat the cowgirls Thursday, then your post has merit. IMO.

Except for the horrific, head scratching, int yesterday, I thought Allen played extremely well.  Statistically not so much, but against bottom feeders he isn't being asked to be more than a game manager.  And even then, they still managed 20 points.  He will likely need to be more than a game manager Thursday to beat the cowgirls.

[Big Gun]

16 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

still needs weapons. 

Need a compliment to J Brown

 

Would love Tyler Boyd from Cincy

4 hours ago, Your Brown Eye said:

Last two opponents are 5-17, not convinced yet. Let's see how they do against the next two opponents where they potentially need to put up the same amount, if not more points, against higher quality opponents. They won the last two games like they were supposed to, convincingly, but let's be real the opponents sucked. It's like solving a 1+1 math problem and then turning around and saying your a mathematician now, let's pump the brakes.

Oh phooey, your brown eye is puckered!

 

Every week Allen shows up and and the team wins, haters always say, well yeah wait til the next 2 games, they are really going to be the test. The Bills and Allen dominate those 2 games and hates keep pushing the hate down the line with, yeah wait til the next 2 games.......blah blah blah. 

 

How about time to admit Allen is going to be special and this is a pretty good team. 

Edited November 25, 2019 by pop gun

[eball]

2 minutes ago, CodeMonkey said:

Yes they beat the last 2 sub .500 teams by the amount they should.  

But don't expect everyone to start drinking the koolaid until the Bills beat "someone".  If they manage to beat the cowgirls Thursday, then your post has merit. IMO.

Except for the horrific, head scratching, int yesterday, I thought Allen played extremely well.  Statistically not so much, but against bottom feeders he isn't being asked to be more than a game manager.  And even then, they still managed 20 points.  He will likely need to be more than a game manager Thursday to beat the cowgirls.

 

Man, some of you guys are so afraid to feel good about the Bills it's heartbreaking.  Lighten up!  They put up 420+ yards in consecutive weeks and literally dominated a very good Broncos defense.  The Bills' offense is not bad now and only getting better.  Like I said in the original post, if you're still "worried" about the offense you have my sympathies!

[Ramza86]

Looks pretty good. Still have my concerns but its good to see them firing on almost every cylinder.

[jrober38]

The offense is showing signs of life. 

 

Still need to beat a team with a winning record though. 

[apuszczalowski]

1 hour ago, CorkScrewHill said:

Here is the interesting thing about your comment .. the Bills have won 8 games and the Cowboys 6, but the Cowboys are a good team per your comment and we are not certain about the Bills because who they have beaten. Who exactly have the Cowboys beaten .. the murderer's row of Giants * 2, Redskins, Dolphins, Lions, and Eagles.  Since they beat the eagles and we lost .. does that make the difference? Then what about the jets who we beat and they lost to?  So if we beat the Cowboys do we say the Cowboys are not very good because they are a .500 team.

It's more that the Cowboys are better then any of the teams that the Bills have beat this season. Are people here really confident that when they need to start playing the better teams in the league when they have to score more then 20 points, that the Bills will not have a problem doing it? They scored what the Broncos defence has averaged giving up all season.

[BigDingus]

17 hours ago, eball said:

If so you have my sympathies.  God forbid a team with 7-8 new starters be allowed to work things out and get better as the season progresses.

 

With back-to-back 17 point wins the Bills are ruining the "they only scrape by crappy opponents" narrative!

 

There's still a LOT that needs to improve, I don't know how anyone can say otherwise.

Winning by 17 points when your opponent scores only 3 isn't a testament to the offense this week, it's a testament to the defense.

The offense had such amazing starting field position so many times throughout this game, yet wouldn't go anywhere with it. They also couldn't capitalize in the redzone, often going backwards instead of putting up any real threat of scoring TD's. 

If the offense was "figured out," they sure didn't look like it yesterday. When you consistently start around the 40 yard line (or in opponent's territory) and keep coming away having to punt, it's a sign there's a LOT of work to be done.

If you think this means the Bills have escaped the "scrape by crappy opponents" by putting up a whopping 20 points against a 3-8 team and 37 points against a 2-9 team then I'm happy for you. But if we're going to use those teams as measuring sticks, I guess the Jets are even more dominant having beat the 6-5 Raiders by 31 points and the 2-9 Redskins by 17 points (we only beat them by 16!)

The Browns also just blew out the Dolphins 41 to 24... I thought everyone was saying Baker Mayfield was trash? But since we're now claiming scoring 20 points against the Broncos & 37 against the Dolphins means we've arrived, I guess Mayfield & Darnold have arrived too! At least both of them have beaten teams with winning records.

[jrober38]

32 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said:

It's more that the Cowboys are better then any of the teams that the Bills have beat this season. Are people here really confident that when they need to start playing the better teams in the league when they have to score more then 20 points, that the Bills will not have a problem doing it? They scored what the Broncos defence has averaged giving up all season.

 

Dallas also hasn't beat anyone with a winning record. 

 

It will be a really interesting match up. 

 

If Tre can lock down Cooper, and we can mostly keep Zeke contained, our offense shouldn't have to score a ton of points to win. 

[Freak-O]

They looked pretty good yesterday, as well as the week before. But it's not that long ago they didn't. The offense has been inconsistent but I like all the pieces and I think they're headed the right way. The long TD pass by Allen yesterday is something I've been wanting to see the entire season. 

[SCBills]

51 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

 

There's still a LOT that needs to improve, I don't know how anyone can say otherwise.

Winning by 17 points when your opponent scores only 3 isn't a testament to the offense this week, it's a testament to the defense.

The offense had such amazing starting field position so many times throughout this game, yet wouldn't go anywhere with it. They also couldn't capitalize in the redzone, often going backwards instead of putting up any real threat of scoring TD's. 

If the offense was "figured out," they sure didn't look like it yesterday. When you consistently start around the 40 yard line (or in opponent's territory) and keep coming away having to punt, it's a sign there's a LOT of work to be done.

If you think this means the Bills have escaped the "scrape by crappy opponents" by putting up a whopping 20 points against a 3-8 team and 37 points against a 2-9 team then I'm happy for you. But if we're going to use those teams as measuring sticks, I guess the Jets are even more dominant having beat the 6-5 Raiders by 31 points and the 2-9 Redskins by 17 points (we only beat them by 16!)

The Browns also just blew out the Dolphins 41 to 24... I thought everyone was saying Baker Mayfield was trash? But since we're now claiming scoring 20 points against the Broncos & 37 against the Dolphins means we've arrived, I guess Mayfield & Darnold have arrived too! At least both of them have beaten teams with winning records.

 

I don't think any of us are under the illusion we're some elite offense, but if Denver was scoring yesterday, there is zero doubt in my mind that we don't put up 27-30 points on them.  We went into grind it out mode up 13-3 and basically shut it down up 20-3 with over half a quarter left. 

 

That's two games in a row where our offense looks to be putting it together.  Josh Allen is starting to stack good games and we have an identity in being up-tempo with a strong rushing attack and speed in the passing game.

[eball]

48 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

 

There's still a LOT that needs to improve, I don't know how anyone can say otherwise.

Winning by 17 points when your opponent scores only 3 isn't a testament to the offense this week, it's a testament to the defense.

The offense had such amazing starting field position so many times throughout this game, yet wouldn't go anywhere with it. They also couldn't capitalize in the redzone, often going backwards instead of putting up any real threat of scoring TD's. 

If the offense was "figured out," they sure didn't look like it yesterday. When you consistently start around the 40 yard line (or in opponent's territory) and keep coming away having to punt, it's a sign there's a LOT of work to be done.

If you think this means the Bills have escaped the "scrape by crappy opponents" by putting up a whopping 20 points against a 3-8 team and 37 points against a 2-9 team then I'm happy for you. But if we're going to use those teams as measuring sticks, I guess the Jets are even more dominant having beat the 6-5 Raiders by 31 points and the 2-9 Redskins by 17 points (we only beat them by 16!)

The Browns also just blew out the Dolphins 41 to 24... I thought everyone was saying Baker Mayfield was trash? But since we're now claiming scoring 20 points against the Broncos & 37 against the Dolphins means we've arrived, I guess Mayfield & Darnold have arrived too! At least both of them have beaten teams with winning records.

 

This is a silly post from start to finish.

 

I did NOT:

 

-- state or imply the Bills have everything "figured out"

-- state or imply they couldn't use additional weapons

-- state or imply the Bills "have arrived" because they defeated Miami and Denver

 

If you and others don't want to recognize and enjoy the offense's progress that's your business.

[DJB]

18 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

It's mostly bad penalties that are killing their drives. 

 

True but Lee Smith didn't play much this week finally

[Augie]

They are still a work in progress, but they are progressing. It won’t be perfect, and there will be rough stretches, but just keep going in the right direction in general. We will add a few new parts for next year, but we won’t be swapping out NINE starters again. I’m generally quite pleased so far. 

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

55 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

 

There's still a LOT that needs to improve, I don't know how anyone can say otherwise.

Winning by 17 points when your opponent scores only 3 isn't a testament to the offense this week, it's a testament to the defense.

The offense had such amazing starting field position so many times throughout this game, yet wouldn't go anywhere with it. They also couldn't capitalize in the redzone, often going backwards instead of putting up any real threat of scoring TD's. 

If the offense was "figured out," they sure didn't look like it yesterday. When you consistently start around the 40 yard line (or in opponent's territory) and keep coming away having to punt, it's a sign there's a LOT of work to be done.

If you think this means the Bills have escaped the "scrape by crappy opponents" by putting up a whopping 20 points against a 3-8 team and 37 points against a 2-9 team then I'm happy for you. But if we're going to use those teams as measuring sticks, I guess the Jets are even more dominant having beat the 6-5 Raiders by 31 points and the 2-9 Redskins by 17 points (we only beat them by 16!)

The Browns also just blew out the Dolphins 41 to 24... I thought everyone was saying Baker Mayfield was trash? But since we're now claiming scoring 20 points against the Broncos & 37 against the Dolphins means we've arrived, I guess Mayfield & Darnold have arrived too! At least both of them have beaten teams with winning records.

 

From a yardage and points standpoint the Broncos do have a top 10 defense.  Penalties and drops really killed drives in the 2nd half.  We had a very run oriented attack to this one, and putting yourself behind the sticks tends to get away from that gameplan.

 

Feleciano red zone hold put us at 1st and goal from the 15.  This one basically took 4 points off the board. 

Multiple penalties in the last 2 minutes kind of just - cratered any chance of that drive getting points.

Mckenzie hold on a drive in the 2nd half put them at 1st and 20 instead of 2nd and 7 from the denver 40.  Hard to say but this probably took points off the board in the 3rd quarter.

Ford holding put them at 1st and 20.  Right after a nice mckenzie 3rd down conversion we were on the denver 42.

 

3 big holding penalties that killed drives or took points off the board.  I didn't see any of them on instant replay because CBS sucks (the mckenzie one was stupid and blatant) - but either way - gotta be better.  Its probably like a 10 point difference in this one. 

 

I also think there were a few situations in a normal game i might go for it on 4th - or be more aggressive in Playcalling.  But by the 4th quarter i didn't think brandon allen was going to make any plays so, why not just be a bit safe and win it that way. 

[Reed83HOF]

4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I think they looked like a better than average offense through 3 weeks too. Between the Pats week 4 and the Browns week 10 decidedly less so. This week was, as @HappyDays referred to above, the first time they did it against a genuinely good defense.

Once I can see this consistently, I will feel a lot better about about things. Josh (and the offense) has played relatively well the last 2 weeks and needs to keep building on it... 

1 hour ago, apuszczalowski said:

It's more that the Cowboys are better then any of the teams that the Bills have beat this season. Are people here really confident that when they need to start playing the better teams in the league when they have to score more then 20 points, that the Bills will not have a problem doing it? They scored what the Broncos defence has averaged giving up all season.

Let's be honest, the cowboys are a poorly coached team, and have been for a long time, but they have some damn good individual players and a monster OL. Good coaching would make them a much better team and could have helped them win yesterday. 

[The Real Buffalo Joe]

18 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

Agree, they still need a another legit WR, , probably a bruising type of young Frank Gore RB and one lineman either to take Spains place at guard or you move Ford to guard, then sign a FA RT and still draft one too.  Earlier in the season I would have said move Ford inside, but today going up against Von Miller, hardly heard Miller or Ford mentioned.  Maybe Ford is fine at RT, particularly with a year under his belt. 

Sometimes we should just use the full words.

[apuszczalowski]

22 minutes ago, The Real Buffalo Joe said:

Sometimes we should just use the full words.

But Free Agent Right Tackle is just so many letters to type out......

[Big Turk]

I'm really liking how they seem to have success running the ball even against good run D's like the Broncos and the Titans(at least they were when we played them). Broncos were ranked #11 giving up only 100 yards a game total on the ground and we just gashed them for 244

Edited November 25, 2019 by matter2003

[The Real Buffalo Joe]

1 minute ago, apuszczalowski said:

But Free Agent Right Tackle is just so many letters to type out......

What makes you assume i was talking about FA RT. I was talking about Wide Receiver and Running Back. RB could also mean Ruben Brown which could get very confusing as he was an offensive guard, and has been retired for 12 years.

[apuszczalowski]

29 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

Let's be honest, the cowboys are a poorly coached team, and have been for a long time, but they have some damn good individual players and a monster OL. Good coaching would make them a much better team and could have helped them win yesterday. 

They have their flaws, but they are also one of the better teams the Bills will have faced this season, and so far this year, when the Bills are facing a tough team, they haven't looked good. They scored the amount of points that the Broncos defence has averaged giving up this year (you could mention yards, but according to everyone yards don't matter, only the score board at the end of the game). The defence looked very good against one of the the worst offences in the league. The Bills did what they were supposed to do and won the game which is great. But if they want to be viewed as a contender and respected around the league and by the network's like everyone thinks they should be because of their record, they aren't going to get that by just doing what's needed to get the win.

 

Everyone complains about excuses and that there's always going to be people complaining or having excuses 'they played a bad team', 'Allen didn't have x amount of yards', 'they didn't win by enough', etc. But the same happens with the other side 'well they shut the offence down and didn't try to score', 'if they didn't have a penalty here the score would have been different', 'Dayboll didn't call the right plays', 'If player X caught the ball.....'. It goes both ways.

 

I don't think anyone here is not enjoying the wins or are wishing they would lose so they can be right. The problem is that while everyone's enjoying the wins, some are looking further then the scoreboard and see the faults in this team that will be a problem when they start having to play tougher competition. They don't look like a team that would have the record they do and more like a team who's stats are inflated by having a very easy schedule so far. Some may be happy just watching game by game and not expect much while hoping to have their expectations exceeded, others are looking ahead and taking a cautious approach because they know that not every team they face is going to be at the bottom of the standings.

19 minutes ago, The Real Buffalo Joe said:

What makes you assume i was talking about FA RT. I was talking about Wide Receiver and Running Back. RB could also mean Ruben Brown which could get very confusing as he was an offensive guard, and has been retired for 12 years.

I just always assume RB is Ruben Brown, never would have thought Running Back

[apuszczalowski]

21 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

I'm really liking how they seem to have success running the ball even against good run D's like the Broncos and the Titans(at least they were when we played them). Broncos were ranked #11 giving up only 100 yards a game total on the ground and we just gashed them for 244

Another think to look at is are the Broncos and Titans good against the run because they can stop the otther teams running game, or do they look really good cause teams can pass easily on them so no one worries about running much against them? It's become such a passing league today that giving up 100 yards total on the ground sounds almost average for most defences.

[ILBillsfan]

Offense seems to be getting really close.  Definitely can see that they are getting better.

 

really strong game vs a good Denver defense.  The line played lights out

[BringBackOrton]

19 hours ago, eball said:

If so you have my sympathies.  God forbid a team with 7-8 new starters be allowed to work things out and get better as the season progresses.

 

With back-to-back 17 point wins the Bills are ruining the "they only scrape by crappy opponents" narrative!

 

1 hour ago, eball said:

 

This is a silly post from start to finish.

 

I did NOT:

 

-- state or imply the Bills have everything "figured out"

-- state or imply they couldn't use additional weapons

-- state or imply the Bills "have arrived" because they defeated Miami and Denver

 

If you and others don't want to recognize and enjoy the offense's progress that's your business.

Yeah man, you just wrote that anyone still concerned with the Bills offense “has your sympathies.” Oh and that they ruined a narrative with the Miami and Denver wins.

 

Shocked that any implications were drawn from your OP.

[CLTbills]

I'll say this. They are definitely peaking at the right time... just in time for this final push toward the postseason.

[NoSaint]

6 hours ago, eball said:

 

Hey man, you start the threads you want to start and I'll start the threads I want to start.

 

Everyone has trashed the offense and in back to back weeks they've looked like a better-than-average NFL offense.  I don't think there's anything wrong with recognizing that even when the team wasn't scoring they've been moving the ball, as evidenced by their overall yardage ranking.  They just won two NFL games in a row by 17 points, which is an anomaly in this league.

 

With so many new pieces and the limited amount of time the CBA allows for practice, it was only reasonable to suggest it would take them some time.  If you want to carry on with the "yeah, but I need to see it consistently" refrain be my guest, but I see an offense that is most definitely trending up and giving opponents multiple things to worry about.

you can start any thread you want, and people can go ahead and not agree with the premise of it when you do. 
 

I think the problem here is assuming the trend line off very limited data points. They played good games. They are also remarkably healthy, and one of those was the Dolphins. the performances were also pretty darn close to “average” for offenses against these teams. 
 

the dolphins average point differential is 16.6 per game and allowing 32 per game. We outperformed slightly on the total but remarkably close on differential 

 

and we were pretty spot on average to what the broncos allow in points. I don’t know that I’ve ever seen a 20-3 win be a situation that gets the offense much praise. 
 

Having back to back relatively average games gets more of a good job than a rub it in people’s faces reaction from me is all

[zow2]

The Bills offense Dominated yesterday as much as the D.  I was really impressed against a solid Denver D.  The score should have been much more lopsided based on the stats and field position.  The penalties really screwed them up.  Gotta clean up that part.  But overall i think the O looks much better than a few weeks ago.

[Reed83HOF]

Here is 2018 to 2019 for our offense.

 

Please note that I only used Josh Allen only for passing.

2018 = 11 GS & 12 GP

2019 = 11 GS & 11 GP 

 

The Rushing & Team categories for 2018 = 16 games and 2019 = 11 games = I'm too lazy for that

 

The orange color is how close to the worst team we are, not the best

 

 

While improved, we still have a way to go and everyone should still be worried about the offense when we play better opponents...

[Billsfan1972]

Many won't disappear until there is that 300 yard game, the ability to come back down 14+ (yes did that vs the Jets) and win a shootout (which all could happen this Thursday?).

 

BTW only team other then the Bills not to throw for 300 yards this season......  The Deadskins.

 

When everything goes well (offense & defense) that's one thing, but the Bills again have played some of the worst offenses in Football this year (though NYJ & some others have turned it around) and certainly some of the worst defenses.

 

I am 100% a JA backer, but again want to see 30+ points (and not vs. the Dolphins).

 

 

Edited November 25, 2019 by Billsfan1972