reddogblitz Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: When did he throw a Pick 6. OOO Thats right he didnt. https://www.espn.com/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=401127866 I stand corrected. I was thinking of the one in the Jets game I think it was that bounced off of Beasley's hands. In the NE game he only threw 3 picks which I'm sure had no affect on the outcome. I blew it. I'm not going to make any excuses. Go BILLS !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 22 hours ago, Gugny said: Bad things could definitely happen if they let Allen play his game. Making him play scared/safe might minimize the bad things, but it also kills production. I'd rather take the bad with the good and score some points. It has been painfully obvious since the NE game that Josh was being reigned in. Perhaps that was intentional, and perhaps It was just Josh getting too cautious in his approach in response to the interceptions and criticism. Whatever the reason, he has not been the same and neither has the offense. While this has all been frustrating, I think this is simply part of the leaning process for him. We all hope he figures out how to strike a balance. We cannot have him playing like Tyrod and expect more than we are getting. He needs to be himself. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 I mean they've been pretty fearless on offense, they keep trotting out Lee Smith to jump off-sides and we run Dimarco downfield 30 yards for incomplete passes.. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 23 hours ago, colin said: play FEARLESSLY. im not a fan of how nouns, verbs, and adverbs just all get the same morphology. This all started in 1995 with the release of the song "Dont Take it Personal" by Monica. Since then, personally has become personal, and people drop the -ly whenever they can on other words. It infuriates me as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, london_bills said: Let's see if all this fearless talk makes a difference to Allen on Sunday. Talk is cheap. I think all the players need to play fearlessly not just Allen. When you -- any NFL player -- are worried about making a mistake, you think about what you should do instead of reacting instinctively, and that makes you a fraction of a second slower, which can mean the difference between the success or failure of any play. More importantly, I think that the coaching staff has to coach fearlessly and come up with a game plan that takes into account players' strengths and weaknesses even if that game plan takes them out of their comfort zones. Just because Allen has a big arm doesn't mean that he has to throw the ball all the time. His failures as a passer since the NE game seem to be weighing on him. The Bills seem to have a decent run blocking OL and a nice young RB in Singletary. Let the RBs tote the rock, build their stats, eat up clock, and take the pressure off Allen so he can regain his self-confidence by succeeding rather pushing him to imitate Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers or Patrick Mahomes. He's not good enough at this point in his career to be expected to carry the team, and relying on a stout defense and good running game to support a young QB is a tried-and-true method of finding success for both QBs and teams like Brady and NE in 2001, Roethlisberger and Pitt in 2006, and Wilson and Seattle in 2013. Edited November 14, 2019 by SoTier 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, SoTier said: I think all the players need to play fearlessly not just Allen. When you -- any NFL player -- are worried about making a mistake, you think about what you should do instead of reacting instinctively, and that makes you a fraction of a second slower, which can mean the difference between the success or failure of any play. More importantly, I think that the coaching staff has to coach fearlessly and come up with a game plan that takes into account players' strengths and weaknesses even if that game plan takes them out of theri comfort zones. Just because Allen has a big arm doesn't mean that he has to throw the ball all the time. His failures as a passer since the NE game seem to be weighing on him. The Bills seem to have a decent run blocking OL and a nice young RB in Singletary. Let the RBs tote the rock, build their stats, eat up clock, and take the pressure off Allen so he can regain his self-confidence rather pushing him to imitate Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers or Patrick Mahomes. He's not good enough at this point in his career to be expected to carry the team. good take. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tenhigh Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 22 hours ago, Augie said: We’re going to put Lee Smith in and tell him not to worry about the false starts. That’s just a guess........ Hold fearlessly.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, Tenhigh said: Hold fearlessly.... So I guess he’s just a man ahead of his time! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Reed83HOF said: 'Move the ball, score field goals.' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 ...so how the hell do you tell your personnel to "PLAY fearless" when your coach "FEARFUL"?.....what did I miss?.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 9 hours ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: THIS THIS and THIS well done. i was thinking today about how to Coach a season. especially and O coordinator. he has been showing different looks week to week generally speaking. Being an overthinker ( not smarter thinker ) Suspect Daboll and McD were finding out how much Josh could process and trying to find some coherence in the O line and WRS , TEs RBs. Now we are on the back side of the season, Perhaps training Camp is over. and now it is time to rock and roll and put more cards on the table. Time for the run to the playoffs come hell or high water Go Bills ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: THIS THIS and THIS well done. i was thinking today about how to Coach a season. especially and O coordinator. he has been showing different looks week to week generally speaking. Being an overthinker ( not smarter thinker ) Suspect Daboll and McD were finding out how much Josh could process and trying to find some coherence in the O line and WRS , TEs RBs. Now we are on the back side of the season, Perhaps training Camp is over. and now it is time to rock and roll and put more cards on the table. Time for the run to the playoffs come hell or high water Go Bills ! I just grabbed 3 cool looking pictures. now I’m looking closer is that the same guy 55 ?? Josh pwned him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 2 hours ago, SoTier said: I think all the players need to play fearlessly not just Allen. When you -- any NFL player -- are worried about making a mistake, you think about what you should do instead of reacting instinctively, and that makes you a fraction of a second slower, which can mean the difference between the success or failure of any play. More importantly, I think that the coaching staff has to coach fearlessly and come up with a game plan that takes into account players' strengths and weaknesses even if that game plan takes them out of their comfort zones. Just because Allen has a big arm doesn't mean that he has to throw the ball all the time. His failures as a passer since the NE game seem to be weighing on him. The Bills seem to have a decent run blocking OL and a nice young RB in Singletary. Let the RBs tote the rock, build their stats, eat up clock, and take the pressure off Allen so he can regain his self-confidence by succeeding rather pushing him to imitate Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers or Patrick Mahomes. He's not good enough at this point in his career to be expected to carry the team, and relying on a stout defense and good running game to support a young QB is a tried-and-true method of finding success for both QBs and teams like Brady and NE in 2001, Roethlisberger and Pitt in 2006, and Wilson and Seattle in 2013. absolutely extend to Coaching on game day. lets see more RO and let Allen choose for example. Part of this means to me , they want Allen to take charge and trust his players. Thoughts on that point from me ? 2 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: How awesome is this ?! 10 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: I just grabbed 3 cool looking pictures. now I’m looking closer is that the same guy 55 ?? Josh pwned him 10 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: I just grabbed 3 cool looking pictures. now I’m looking closer is that the same guy 55 ?? Josh pwned him wasn't 55 Barr the big hitter ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Apparently the message to play fearless was to the whole team. I was under the impression he spoke to josh and said that to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 14, 2019 Author Share Posted November 14, 2019 Just now, london_bills said: Apparently the message to play fearless was to the whole team. I was under the impression he spoke to josh and said that to him. See thread title 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: wasn't 55 Barr the big hitter ? that sounds right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: See thread title Doh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 3 hours ago, FLFan said: It has been painfully obvious since the NE game that Josh was being reigned in. Perhaps that was intentional, and perhaps It was just Josh getting too cautious in his approach in response to the interceptions and criticism. Whatever the reason, he has not been the same and neither has the offense. While this has all been frustrating, I think this is simply part of the leaning process for him. We all hope he figures out how to strike a balance. We cannot have him playing like Tyrod and expect more than we are getting. He needs to be himself. You stop with the logical interpretations right now mister! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 If I was in that meeting I would say "when you start coaching fearless I will start playing fearless". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: If I was in that meeting I would say "when you start coaching fearless I will start playing fearless". Lee Smith got a penalty in the meeting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 I predicted a while back that Bills fans would only be able to put up with Allen’s mediocre play as long as he kept improving...once it appeared he had plateaued, and was still a mediocre QB, the hounds would be released... Daniel Jones just had a 300 yard/ 4 TD game...Murray has had a few 300 yard games...the more this happens, the more Bills fans will start to lose patience with JA- especially after 20 games played...I’m really rooting for Josh, but unfortunately, time waits for no one.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOKIE Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 I have a fortune cookie slip that says "fortune favors the fearless" under my garage fridge magnet.... I've had it for many years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 This means two extra holding penalties for Lee Smith against Miami great... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayray808 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Josh Allen will do one of two things this week: - 300 yards + passing - 3 TD's + passing FEARLESS = UNLEASH JOSHY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: Jones has had a couple of those already.... every QB is different, but the fact that Jones has already done that twice as a rookie and Allen hasn’t at all through 20 starts is slightly disappointing. I think that’s the best description- disappointing...after the Dolphin’s finale last year, where JA accounted for 5 total TDS, I was really expecting bigger things this year...this next game will be telling, now that he has been unleashed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 14 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: ...the face of constipation?.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 4 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...the face of constipation?.......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiLLsMaFiA1982 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 hope this means for rest of season and not just the fish game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 How can you play fearless when you install a conservative mindset into the team? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregPersons Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 "Play Fearless" is a bit nonsensical. I get what he means, but if you have NO fear of your opponent, you have no respect, so really this is saying Play Reckless. What it should be is "Play Brave"— take the chance when you know you can make it, even if it doesn't work, take the confident calculated risks when they are there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottaRun Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 21 hours ago, rayray808 said: Josh Allen will do one of two things this week: - 300 yards + passing - 3 TD's + passing FEARLESS = UNLEASH JOSHY I don't disagree with this, but 'FEARLESS' could also equal 4 INTs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 21 hours ago, rayray808 said: Josh Allen will do one of two things this week: - 300 yards + passing - 3 TD's + passing FEARLESS = UNLEASH JOSHY Because he has been choosing or scared to do this in the past? No. Hit on a deep pass and he is over 300. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Was just listening to one of my fave Bills shows every week, "The Lo Down" with Lorenzo Alexander. https://www.buffalobills.com/video/the-lo-down-with-lorenzo-alexander-x3481 They asked 'Zo about how McDermott asking the guys to play "Fearless" went down in the locker room. Lorenzo said it was Monday after the game, in the context of looking for positive solutions and that it was part of 3 things he laid out for the team: 1) be more physical, especially on the OL and DL 2) execution - pre-snap penalties especially 3) play fearless, which he expanded to play fast and free, think about making a play vs playing to not make a mistake. They spend a lot of time talking about the Garrett thing and 'Zo being nominated for an award, so it isn't until about 7:20 in to the segment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 On 11/13/2019 at 12:53 PM, YoloinOhio said: I hope McDermott's actions match his words. We'll see if he walks the talk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 1 hour ago, njbuff said: How can you play fearless when you install a conservative mindset into the team? ...a/k/a "Dopey Dickie Jauron Ball" .................Tasker called his D "bugs on your windshield"..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finn Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 On 11/13/2019 at 3:22 PM, golfball323 said: This is the type of message that can be confusing to players. McDermott is conservative in nature and coaches that way. He's been successful coaching that way. Rolling the dice now and saying, "Play Fearless" goes against a lot of the messages that he's sent to these players in the last three years. We'll See ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Right. To many players, the opposite of "play fearless[ly]" is not "hesitate" and "overthink" but "play with discipline." As far as I can see, the only one who needs to hear the "fearless" message is Allen. Daboll, Mr. "Let's throw downfield into double coverage to a slot receiver on third and short" and "Let's throw it 41 times" is already fearless enough, albeit in the worst sense. By the way, all of us who think Allen does need to play with less fear need to be ready to tolerate the downside that will come from the upside. But I'll take the Allen of late last season, an exciting player who's just as capable of an incredible play as an interception, over a neutered, ineffective game manager who frankly is boring to watch. Let him shine and mess up. Everyone else (except Haushka and Daboll), stay the course. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Maybe he should listen to himself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 minute ago, iinii said: Maybe he should listen to himself. ...THERE is the home run ball my friend.....dead on....play fearless yet coach "fearful".....SMH.....Grandma always told me, "no guts...no glory....no bawls....no blue chips sonny"......she never missed..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 He was talking about the Taylor Swift album 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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