YoloinOhio Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) Presser up on BuffaloBills.com:https://www.buffalobills.com/video/sean-mcdermott-learn-through-experiences Raw press conference:https://13wham.com/buffalo-plus/buffalo-plus-videos/raw-sean-mcdermott-news-conference-on-wed-november-13-2019 Edited November 14, 2019 by YoloinOhio Add links to posted and to raw presser video 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Lol. What a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Stupid press conference question. If you had an interview? Maybe... but in a press conference talking about either the cleveland game or miami game it has no place. He isn't on any of these teams. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 McDermott is right not to compare and I think most people know that Josh is not really like Tyrod and with Tyrod you knew quite early (or at least some of us did) that you were at the ceiling. That is not the case with Josh. Having said that I can see why Jerry asked that with those stats going around and with the way Josh played last weekend which had a lot of Tyrod traits to it. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Imagine how embarrassing your journalism career must be that you need to ask a stupid, useless question that you promote on social media just to get people to talk about how embarrassing your journalism career is. 19 8 3 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 jerry needs to be punched in the face. what a moron 2 3 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: McDermott is right not to compare and I think most people know that Josh is not really like Tyrod and with Tyrod you knew quite early (or at least some of us did) that you were at the ceiling. That is not the case with Josh. Having said that I can see why Jerry asked that with those stats going around and with the way Josh played last weekend which had a lot of Tyrod traits to it. Your takes on Allen are proven unreliable. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 minute ago, GoBills808 said: Your takes on Allen are proven unreliable. No they are not. He did not play well on Sunday. When I said it after the game you all jumped on me and countless people have come out and said it since. I didn't say bench him, or move on, or he is done. I said he played poorly on Sunday and he needs to play better. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 It's a fair question but also kind of ignores so many of the nuances. The stats may be the same, the wins and other results may be the same, but would you rather pay a veteran a 30.5 Million dollar contract for two years at the ages of 29 and 30, when you already know the veteran is only average to below average. Or do you want to pay a younger player 21 Million dollars for four years from the ages of 22-25, when the younger player is already at the level of the veteran and may be able to grow. Bottom line is after the playoff game in Jacksonville where some of the worst quarterbacking I've ever seen in the league took place you couldnt keep Tyrod. Keeping him, and bringing in a rookie would have been bad for the locker room which was incredibly loyal to Tyrod. They needed a fresh start, and I am glad they have it. 10 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 revoke his press pass 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: Imagine how embarrassing your journalism career must be that you need to ask a stupid, useless question that you promote on social media just to get people to talk about how embarrassing your journalism career is. seems a step more dignified than almost all media journalism 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven-N-Nine Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Hmm, not sure I have a problem with the question. They've gone through the "process" to get Allen and build the team they want, and they are no better off... 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 minute ago, thenorthremembers said: The stats may be the same, the wins and other results may be the same, but would you rather pay a veteran a 30.5 Million dollar contract for two years at the ages of 29 and 30, when you already know the veteran is only average to below average. The simple truth that people like Sullivan are too stupid to understand is that if this game was just about stats, Antonio Brown would be playing on a team right now and Andy Dalton wouldn't be on the bench. But thinkin's hard for some people. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 13, 2019 Author Share Posted November 13, 2019 Just now, GunnerBill said: No they are not. He did not play well on Sunday. When I said it after the game you all jumped on me and countless people have come out and said it since. I didn't say bench him, or move on, or he is done. I said he played poorly on Sunday and he needs to play better. Perfectly fair. I thought he made some nice plays but he didn’t have a good game. What some can’t understand is that he is going to have good games and bad games. Each game is not a referendum on his career. His career is not on the line with each one. He’s a young QB who was raw coming in and is still learning. Which is not what Tyrod was. Stats only tell part of the story. Though it makes an intriguing question for the media. Allen will have until the end of next year at least before a reasonable conclusion is drawn. 5 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 I think it's a fair question since at this point in his career anyway, Allen isn't a improvement. But as someone mentioned above, more appropriate for an interview or as a topic for one of his "articles", not a in-season press conference. Probably just trying to get people talking about him again ... and it has worked here at least. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Sullivan always reminds me of this guy: 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: No they are not. He did not play well on Sunday. When I said it after the game you all jumped on me and countless people have come out and said it since. I didn't say bench him, or move on, or he is done. I said he played poorly on Sunday and he needs to play better. Unreliable. Much like the other takes on Allen recently. What was the criticism of Allen in the offseason? Needs to up his completion % and clean up the short/underneath stuff. Worked on it in the offseason and did it. Then through first 4 games it was: stop throwing INTs. Worked on it. Done. Now it's 'he can't hit a deep ball'...all you want to do is complain about what isn't working without looking at what is. It's beyond repetitive, it's just lazy at this point. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Tyrod was overall a competent NFL qb. He was flawed but overall led the Bill's to its first playoff appearance in 20 years. Difference is Allen is in year 2 Taylor was year 8. Allen has improved nicely from the draft to now. I think Allen still has loads of potential and pegging Allen as a game manager is an attempt as an insult. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Perfectly fair. I thought he made some nice plays but he didn’t have a good game. What some can’t understand is that he is going to have good games and bad games. Each game is not a referendum on his career. His career is not on the line with each one. He’s a young QB who was raw coming in and is still learning. Which is not what Tyrod was. Stats only tell part of the story. Though it makes an intriguing question for the media. Allen will have until the end of next year at least before a reasonable conclusion is drawn. Yeh you must have missed what he said in shoutbox after the game lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 good thing games aren’t played “statistically”, Jerry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 What is missed in this whole identical stats things... Allen - 19 Int's and 19 Fumbles Taylor - 8 Int's and 12 Fumbles 8 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 minute ago, row_33 said: seems a step more dignified than almost all media journalism I've seen goose schitt that is more dignified than almost all media journalism, so that's not saying much. Jerry Sullivan's job should be to fill John Wawrow's empty scotch tumbler. Period. And Tim Graham should be in charge of ice. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 13, 2019 Author Share Posted November 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Yeh you must have missed what he said in shoutbox after the game lmao I’m not a shoutboxer! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Unreliable. Much like the other takes on Allen recently. What was the criticism of Allen in the offseason? Needs to up his completion % and clean up the short/underneath stuff. Worked on it in the offseason and did it. Then through first 4 games it was: stop throwing INTs. Worked on it. Done. Now it's 'he can't hit a deep ball'...all you want to do is complain about what isn't working without looking at what is. It's beyond repetitive, it's just lazy at this point. As an overall body of work this season, Allen hasn't been been very good. I really don't think it can be debated... 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: As an overall body of work this season, Allen hasn't been been very good. I really don't think it can be debated... Yeah, nobody is saying he's been very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Haven't you people herd of the Sophomore Slump? lol I kill myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Just now, GoBills808 said: Yeah, nobody is saying he's been very good. I do see improvements in some spots which are encouraging. It's not coming all together and IMO....he should be ahead of where he's at now. I have been wait and see all season but man...our offense hasn't turned the corner and I'm worried it never will. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Perfectly fair. I thought he made some nice plays but he didn’t have a good game. What some can’t understand is that he is going to have good games and bad games. Each game is not a referendum on his career. His career is not on the line with each one. He’s a young QB who was raw coming in and is still learning. Which is not what Tyrod was. Stats only tell part of the story. Though it makes an intriguing question for the media. Allen will have until the end of next year at least before a reasonable conclusion is drawn. This should be repeated over and over. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 It’s fair to ask whether the guy you brought in is better than than they guy you got rid of. But Sullivan really just stirs the pot. Really not the time or place for that question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 16 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: No they are not. He did not play well on Sunday. When I said it after the game you all jumped on me and countless people have come out and said it since. I didn't say bench him, or move on, or he is done. I said he played poorly on Sunday and he needs to play better. You can’t criticize Allen fairly on here. You either love him or hate him. So better make your mind up lol 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: As an overall body of work this season, Allen hasn't been been very good. I really don't think it can be debated... He will get 2020 and hopefully Beane can improve the line and upgrade the talent at WR, TE, RB or at least depth at RB as Gore isn't a long term solution. I also wouldn't be opposed to the Bills bringing in a vet QB who is an upgrade from Barkley to challenge Allen. Next year it's sink or swim time for Josh. IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Jerry. Some things you can always count on. I wonder which perennially negative, glass half-empty poster on TBD he is. ...there are a few that fit the bill. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 13, 2019 Author Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: This should be repeated over and over. He’s made progress this year imo. But he’s far from a finished product. Tyrod - I mean Tuh-rod- WAS a finished product by the time he was here in 2017. Edited November 13, 2019 by YoloinOhio 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Greg S said: He will get 2020 and hopefully Beane can improve the line and upgrade the talent at WR, TE, RB or at least depth at RB as Gore isn't a long term solution. I also wouldn't be opposed to the Bills bringing in a vet QB who is an upgrade from Barkley to challenge Allen. Next year it's sink or swim time for Josh. IMHO. I think this is going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Taylor, Peterman, Allen, Anderson, Barkley...etc. Results are 2 and half seasons of the teams points per game being under the league average. its not just THIS season Coach McDermotts offenses have been below...it has been EVERY season. Something needs to change or get fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 18 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: No they are not. He did not play well on Sunday. When I said it after the game you all jumped on me and countless people have come out and said it since. I didn't say bench him, or move on, or he is done. I said he played poorly on Sunday and he needs to play better. Allen was “mediocre” on Sunday. Not great, not terrible- missed some throws and reads- handcuffed by Dabolls lack of balance also. Loads of blame to go around but Allen has to get better or he may become a member of the league known as Not For Long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloButt Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, ngbills said: What is missed in this whole identical stats things... Allen - 19 Int's and 19 Fumbles Taylor - 8 Int's and 12 Fumbles Are those fumbles or fumbles lost? Edited November 13, 2019 by BuffaloButt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 minute ago, billsfan_34 said: Allen was “mediocre” on Sunday. Not great, not terrible- missed some throws and reads- handcuffed by Dabolls lack of balance also. Loads of blame to go around but Allen has to get better or he may become a member of the league known as Not For Long. The problem is that there is an underlying assumption that there are a boat load of guys out there ready to play QB at a high level in the NFL. There are not. If you want to give up on Allen already, what is the next flavor? There are only a handful of guys who can play QB well in the NFL, way less than 32. You have to make absolutely sure Allen is not it before moving on. And he has had no where near enough time yet, no matter how impatient some are. He is making slow, two steps forward/ one step back progress so far IMO. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 37 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: And the proof that Jerry Sullivan is an idiot now presents itself to all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 20 minutes ago, Seven-N-Nine said: Hmm, not sure I have a problem with the question. They've gone through the "process" to get Allen and build the team they want, and they are no better off... That’s because you don’t know what you’re talking about -as evidenced in most of your posts. Tyrod had 4 years in the League before becoming a Bill. He was at his peak on Day 1 here and he actually digressed once every team knew he would never attack the middle of the field. Allen has 18 games played in 1.5 years. He continues to improve. You need only have to remove the unsubstantiated hate. 4 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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