CircleTheWagons99 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 8-8. Can’t win games with this offense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 minute ago, eanyills said: If 9-7 misses the playoffs, doesn’t that count as an epic collapse considering how they started? Depends on how you viewed them going into the "collapse" I suppose. They were never nearly as good as the cockeyed optimists wanted to believe, so I would just view it as regressing to the mean based on competition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Thread of the year candidate right here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Just now, RiotAct said: that’s gotta be better than the embarrassing walk back to your car in Arlington, TX with Cowboys fans laughing at our team. I made that walk when Bledsoe was our QB. It’s a close call but I choose the walk of shame.At least I’ll be able to eat gluten when we get to a BBQ place! ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Bferra13 said: Am I the the only one who thought Josh played well with the plays he was given by a suspect o coordinator? His progression is really all that matters in the big picture. I'm afraid there is more to the season than JA's progress. And he was average at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, RiotAct said: 10-6. also, @DAL is not an “obvious loss”. Come on. If you've watched any of the last 3 weeks and don't think Elliot is primed to have a massive day I don't know what to tell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said: We should start Barkley? ,,or ...Craigslist OC ad?.......one year or less OC experience so noted...oh wait...what we have now........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, FUTURIST said: It is entirely possible they drop their LAST 5 games. I will not be shocked if the Jets beat them in week 17. I won’t be shocked if the Phins beat them next week. This is a team that plays everybody close, no matter how bad they are. The offense can’t score consistently against bad teams, that means bad teams might make a game winning drive to win the game. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, RiotAct said: under. And yeah, I get the whole primetime thing. I still have it penciled in as a loss, but Dallas is not some worldbeater team like New England. Fair points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albwan Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Lurker said: The Bills are too small and soft to win against a physical team on the road. Especially one with a great OL and running game on Turkey day in Big D... omg i didn't know they had that game..massacre on t day noooooooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 12 minutes ago, RiotAct said: 10-6. also, @DAL is not an “obvious loss”. Come on. ??????? Are you serious? There is no way Clapping Jauron & Josh Allen go into Jerry World and come out with a win on Thanksgiving. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclepete Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Lurker said: The Bills are too small and soft to win against a physical team on the road. Especially one with a great OL and running game on Turkey day in Big D... I agree. I could see Zeke putting up crazy numbers. But I think we capitalize on turnovers and squeak out one win against one of the better teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 9-7 will get you in this year folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: I'm afraid there is more to the season than JA's progress. And he was average at best. Big picture means beyond this year Ned. He's the franchise at this point. I see growth. These wr's are still junk for the most part. Especially considering what Mayfield has to work with. Edited November 10, 2019 by Bferra13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 I predicted 11-5 before the season but I may have been a little too optimistic in my assessment. I think we can sneak out 4 more wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU5781 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Lose to the Broncos? LMAO. We beat them, the Jets, and the Dolphins. We will win one of the remaining 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albwan Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 They have a shot at two games and i wouldn't bet on either miami and denver. Game over man, game over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DQW87 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, eanyills said: If 9-7 misses the playoffs, doesn’t that count as an epic collapse considering how they started? I'm not really sure, let me go ask the Sabres. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Just now, uticaclub said: ??????? Are you serious? There is no way Clapping Jauron & Josh Allen go into Jerry World and come out with a win on Thanksgiving. The analytics says the Cowboys haven't beaten anybody good so... They lost to the Jets. And Cooper is hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, unclepete said: The offense isn’t good. It wasn’t good today. QB isn’t good. Receivers don’t get separation. Coordinator doesn’t exploit the other teams flaws. The win is completing passes at a 50% clip. Can’t have lots of confidence in his ability to deliver a catchable pass. I see WRs running open down field and across the middle and the QB missing by a mile on long throws and throwing consistently low and behind WRs over the middle. He’s almost always a split second slow on his throws as well. This last critique I’ll forgive because he’s a young QB and the game moves fast for young QBs. The inaccurate throws aren’t a product of being young. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Just now, uticaclub said: ??????? Are you serious? There is no way Clapping Jauron & Josh Allen go into Jerry World and come out with a win on Thanksgiving. they lost to the Jets! Just saying, I also have the Bills losing that game but it’s going to be a close one and come down to who can capitalize on mistakes better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Bferra13 said: Big picture means beyond this year Ned. He's the franchise at this point. I see growth. IMO he ain't the franchise yet. Big picture is this year. Can't always ignore reality cause there is a following year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 The collapse started before today. The Bills struggle against mediocre teams. The last few games have born this out. We seem ill prepared for the opposition. There's little in the way of consistency and defensive pressure, and a lot in the way of inaccurate passes, poor ball control (especially by Allen), and stupid penalties. Perhaps the team should help Smith destroy his helmet by simply having him relinquish it. That's all for starters of this rant. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: I think this game was the difference between 10-6 and 9-7. There isn't likely some epic collapse looming and these threads are every bit as silly as the SB threads following a win. Key loss. Absolutely. Prelude to the end of the world? Nah. I think losing 4 straight from Thanksgiving into December to go from 8-3 to 8-7 needing to then beat the Jets and get help to sniff the playoffs is a pretty epic collapse and that's exactly what they are staring at. Provided they can beat Miami and Denver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Yes, the sky is falling, and we suck. Let’s run with that, while the sane people who don’t get too high or too low over one game just move on to other things. We were not 6-2 good, they were not 2-6 bad. We lost a close one we could have won. Would you rather be a Bills fan or a Browns fan? I’m good with our program and general trajectory. P.S. - NOTHING would have been better than wining by one point after the Landry penalty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 minute ago, nedboy7 said: IMO he ain't the franchise yet. Big picture is this year. Can't always ignore reality cause there is a following year. Agreed. Let's see what next week brings. I still question this OC's ability. I'm starting to think hes more of an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: 9-7 will get you in this year folks. Keep telling yourself that. 9-7 with no tiebreaker over Baltimore or Pittsburgh or likely Oakland 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, uticaclub said: ??????? Are you serious? There is no way Clapping Jauron & Josh Allen go into Jerry World and come out with a win on Thanksgiving. Willing to bet on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Win the next 2 and the jets game. Gets you 9. Problem is, you can’t count on a W against the cheats, Ravens, Steelers, or Dallas. Shoot, with this offense, you can’t count on wins over the other 3 tomato cans. Whether you want to admit it or not, this game was huge. “And we let ‘em off the hook”. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: Strong take. And this take did not come from an "anti-JA crusader." The kid really needs to step it up and quickly. Like this season quickly. Like now. I’m not anti-Allen but I am more than concerned at this point that he isn’t the answer. I am not impressed with his decision making or accuracy. His ball security is awful. Edited November 10, 2019 by Binghamton Beast 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 22 minutes ago, dayman said: Not going to complain (in this topic anyway) about all the specifics that were so wrong with this game but the short of it is that today really highlighted all of our shortcomings in 1 game and resulted in us losing against a bad football team. Sure, the Browns added talent but they showed exactly why they don't win today very clearly and we basically out-Browns'd them anyway. So, to put in context how important this loss was to us: @Miami - Almost beat us at home recently and plays much better with Fitz at QB. We'll probably win but could easily lose. vBroncos - 50/50 at best...odds are the Broncos beat us. They're at least good enough to beat the Browns. @Cowboys - Obvious loss vRavens - Obvious loss @Steelers - 50/50 at best, not a game we are likely to win on the road. @NE - Obvious loss v.Jets - Again, we could easily lose. Probably win though. Bottom line is we're looking at a 9-7 records assuming we take care of business against Jets, Miami, and spit with Broncos/Steelers. We have to do that AND either sweep the Steelers/Broncos match-ups or beat one of the vastly superior teams (Ravens, Pats, Cowboys) to get to 10. Today was a terrible loss. 6-3 for now but the cakewalk schedule is about to heat up. There is no such thing as a "obvious" loss..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 There are some real chicken littles here. I was very bummed with today's loss....until I came to this thread. Pure comic gold. I hope the majority of you are not in decision making positions in your work life...otherwise I see an an economic crisis. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 I'm starting to feel like my 10-6 prediction is wildly optimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 18 minutes ago, Lurker said: No collapse, but it probably takes 10 wins off the table. Then again, even if they get a wild card slot, does anyone think they'd have a ghost of a chance of a road win? The bills will probably win a game they shouldn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 It has to be on Dabol. Critical play calling has killed us all year. Key word critical. And I don't want to hear about checking out of plays. Garbage scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Bferra13 said: Agreed. Let's see what next week brings. I still question this OC's ability. I'm starting to think hes more of an issue. I think he is done after this year. Too many mistakes. Sure there are creative plays and decent drives. But no consistency. I did not feel we would win this game at any point today. The feeling of trust in this team thru the first few weeks has disappeared. 3 minutes ago, Augie said: Yes, the sky is falling, and we suck. Let’s run with that, while the sane people who don’t get too high or too low over one game just move on to other things. We were not 6-2 good, they were not 2-6 bad. We lost a close one we could have won. Would you rather be a Bills fan or a Browns fan? I’m good with our program and general trajectory. P.S. - NOTHING would have been better than wining by one point after the Landry penalty. This is an oversimplification of fans analyzing what went wrong this week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: I think they lose next week. That would definitely precipitate a collapse. I think they win. It's not like I'm enthused by any of it. What we're looking at is a typical mediocre, middling season. Are Beane/McDermott/Allen ANOTHER perennial 8-8/9-7 ensemble? That's the worst case scenario. That's what makes this "process" so frustrating as a fan. They can always fall back on the notion that this was a long term rebuild whatever that means; and it has SOME merit. But when is enough enough? We're quickly heading into NEXT YEAR is our year territory. Been here before. Edited November 10, 2019 by LSHMEAB 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Just now, dave mcbride said: The bills will probably win a game they shouldn’t. Who? Dallas, Baltimore, the Pats? No way. Pittsburg is the only game of that type remaining and right now the Steelers look like a tough out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 It has to be on Dabol. Critical play calling has killed us all year. Key word critical. And I don't want to hear about checking out of plays. Garbage scheme. 6-10 = collapse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Lurker said: Who? Dallas, Baltimore, the Pats? No way. Pittsburg is the only game of that type remaining and right now the Steelers look like a tough out... Again.. Go look at who Dallas has beat and lost to. Silly saying they are an automatic loss. They lost to the friggin Jets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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